Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Honestly struggling to come to terms with how repulsive this is pic.twitter.com/dGvXB5pYyX

— Tom Williams (@shirleymush) June 12, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 June 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

i wonder if we can have some sort of sweep/thread on what Starmzy will have to do to get critiqued in the Graun/melt Twitter

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 June 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

signal any kind of move to the left, obv

Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 June 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

good news is that’s not gonna happen

Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 June 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

Zoe Williams was criticising him last week fwiw.

ShariVari, Saturday, 13 June 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

fuck me he really has lost the Left

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 June 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

something uniquely repellent about these proud anti racist dinner party types who are clearly sick and tired of hearing about racism, but only feel able express the sentiment indirectly through something else, for fear of sounding gauche. slimy bastards

sir condemning rowling's bigotry would surely be the quickest way to turn them against him right now. a rhetoric turn to the left might even be humoured for a bit, with no election in sight, since they know the people they fear most are less to come around anyway

*rhetorical

*less likely. sorry

Irrespective of whether Heather Stewart is right, it’s bold to make the argument that banging on about sculptures and Fawlty Towers is a culture war trap set by Johnson from the position of Political Editor of a newspaper that has done almost nothing else over the last week.

ShariVari, Saturday, 13 June 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

That Zoe Williams piece from last week is as critical as it will get. Most will be happy that it isn't Corbyn and for the next few years they can pretend this is enough.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 June 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/20/the-far-left-origins-of-no-10s-desperate-attack-on-all-things-woke-?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

Nick Cohen - The far-left origins of No 10's desperate attack on all things 'woke'

Lol ok a+ trolling

"The presence of the ex-revolutionaries in a rightwing debate shows the distance from asinine far leftism to paranoid conservatism is nowhere near as great as the innocent imagine." if you want an authority on asinine

plax (ico), Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Telling how this thread is routinely bumped on Sundays.

pomenitul, Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

guardian giving known sex pests a platform again is it

they've also given four stars to debut album by voice-of-tory-heartlands indie wankers Sports Team if you want another reason to hate them.

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Indie is the voice of Tory heartlands tbf

never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

apart from Belle & Sebastian, the slave trading founders of ILX!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

I always thought of indie as more lib dem but I’m out of date, what’s the difference anyway

apparently now the LibDems are plotting to outflank Starmzy in that sweet indie spot just slightly to the left of the centre right.

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link

I can only think of that wanker from Coldplay and that wanker Dom Joly as prominent LibDem supporters from the entertainment industry, but I'm sure there are more.

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

Brian Eno. I knew there was one I'd forgotten.

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

Billy Bragg if he counts as entertainment

never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

Daniel Radcliffe, 20-year-old star of Harry Potter and 12th wealthiest young person in the UK, is clearly not put off by the party's plan to hit the super-rich with a "mansion tax".

He said: "If all the people who liked the Lib Dems voted for them you could change politics overnight and we could have a proper three-party system."

lol, that 2010 Claggmania was an even worse drug than m-cat

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

Come on Potter most of the people who vote for them don't like them

never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

tbf He was 20 years old there and dopey as fuck, Jo Swinson howerver....

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

all these ppl are indie imo, incl/esp joly & radcliffe

On the white, posh and totally smug and myopic metric.. Indie to the core!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

Opener Lander sets the tone, Rob Knaggs’s ever-shifting guitar lines supporting frontman Alex Rice’s Sprechgesang stream-of-consciousness (“I wanna be a lawyer/ Or someone who hunts foxes”).

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

the Hampshire blues

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

Know this will go down badly here, but surely Bragg & Eno were saying nice things about libdems only when it was nice anti-war alcoholic uncle Charles Kennedy against war criminal Tonty fucking Blair, and both were supporting Corbyn in the election last year.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

Bragg has been an unmitigable wanker since birth whether he supported Corbyn or not. Yeah Eno did turn out for Corbyn in '19 tbf, but who really cares about celebs and how politics is like a no-stakes trends game to them. Well me, because I've just commented on it on this thread tbf! Shit!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

Anyone who supports the Lib Dems for even a nanosecond is tainted for all eternity.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

Voting Tory is preferable tbh.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

I have much more respect for just about every Tory voting cunt in the UK than I have for Billy Bragg, who fronted Red Wedge for Kinnock Sr. Give me Duran Duran any day over that waste of skin!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

it's about 350 words

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

good hustle if you can maintain it!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Tried to find out who the Guardian’s go to pizza guy was and saw there’s also a Jonathan Twentyman (any relation?) in Leigh who owns a property development firm and is followed on here by Helen Pidd. Probably just a coincidence. https://t.co/ikh7G8cJ2D

— Jonathan (@readonlymike) July 9, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

Related:

A quick look suggests the most commonly read paper of those who didn't vote Labour in 2019 (having done so in 2017) is The Guardian (~10%) then The Daily Mail (~8%) and The Sun (~7). Just over half read no paper at all. But among those who 'stuck' with Labour 19% were Guardian.

— Paula Surridge (@p_surridge) June 19, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

Helen Pidd has worked in Manchester forever but my first experience of her was when she was a contributor wrangler sorting out freelance bank details etc - when that job was advertised in the Graun they’d always say ‘this is NOT a route into journalism’ LOL

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

Tried to find out who the Guardian’s go to pizza guy was and saw there’s also a Jonathan Twentyman (any relation?) in Leigh who owns a property development firm and is followed on here by Helen Pidd. Probably just a coincidence. https://t.co/ikh7G8cJ2D

— Jonathan (@readonlymike) July 9, 2020

I just ate an excellent pizza in Leigh and you should too. Twentymans, the place is called: https://t.co/bwfFkhMNOY

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) March 4, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

I literally posted the first tweet already!

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

Christ, that final tweet from Pidd is shameful.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

There was definitely a point where there were more Labour voters reading the Mail than the Guardian, there might still be for all I know.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

Hitchens is unwell today's stand in columnist is Kieran Shitstarm

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

The Manchester Guardian was founded in the wake of the Pizzaloo Massacre to promote the reforming liberal interests.. Blah blah

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

The Griftian

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

What’s wrong with you?? https://t.co/0lrSXQzM03

— Aniqah (@AniqahC) July 9, 2020

cool

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

I would pretend I couldn't speak English if Helen Pidd tried to talk to me tbf

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

lol

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link


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