PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

xp for xbox its game specific, theres a few hundred 360 games that run on the One iirc including most of the major ones, but not everything

for playstation the PS3 games are presumably still on your account but the PS4 can't run them

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/07/09/first-look-box-art-for-upcoming-ps5-games/

White strip looks kind of plain

i have a ps4 and a switch, and one box (wii fitness)

downloadz 4 lyfe

these details on how some ps5 games plan to take advantage of the improved haptic feedback are really promising!!

In a post today on the PlayStation blog, developers of PS5 games shared some thoughts on how haptic feedback works in the DualSense. The coolest nugget of info comes courtesy of Arkane Studios’ Dinga Bakaba, game director for the upcoming first-person assassination game, Deathloop. Apparently, when your gun jams, the DualSense’s triggers will too. This “[gives] to the player an immediate feedback even before the animation plays out, which prompts the player in a physical way that they have to unjam their gun,” Bakaba said.

We can talk all we want about teraflops and processing power and high-fidelity graphics and other blatantly obvious technological advancements the next generation of consoles will bring. (Indeed, we at Kotaku have. A lot.) But I’d argue that subtle tweaks like this are just as big a deal. Sure, having your triggers jam up in the middle of a match sounds like the type of frustration that makes you want to pull your hair out. It also sounds, to toss out an overused buzzword, immersive as heck. Those who like Arkane’s particular flavor of immersive sim (Dishonored, 2017’s Prey) will likely get a kick out of it.

The blog also goes into other uses of the DualSense haptics. For instance, according to creative director Brian Horton, Spider-Man: Miles Morales will apparently feature a sort of rolling vibration. If you use a special move—say, Miles’ “Venom Punch”—you’ll feel the vibration start on the left-hand grip and move rightward across the controller, ending as you wrap up the attack. It’s a far cry from the typical, unlocalized rumble you’d feel while punching, or getting punched, in 2018’s Spider-Man.

Gran Turismo 7 will use the DualSense triggers’ haptics to mimic the feeling of a real vehicle’s anti-lock braking system. Sounds interesting to me, but maybe someone who better knows how cars work—someone who didn’t get in a minor collision just last week—would be better suited to explain it.

https://kotaku.com/how-deathloop-gran-turismo-7-spider-man-miles-morale-1844793076

the 3 exampled explained here are intriguing enough, but to me it's a good sign that the physical sensation of holding the controller and the feedback you get from it is going to be more of a flexible palette for game designers, and that's really cool i think

I can't remember, is microsoft introducing something similar on the series X controllers? Because when 90% of game development is multi platform, support for platform exclusive features like this tends to go out of the window pretty quickly.

In fact that's even true for single platform first party devs tbh. Eg the HD rumble in the switch joycons, which was demoed really well in 1-2-Switch but then barely used at all in any other 1st party nintendo game.

i think the current xbox controllers already have something like that, i remember playing forza there was pretty detailed rumble feedback compared to the ps4 controller's rumble. the stuff about triggers jamming is new though

I thought in performance cars you generally disable or don’t install anti-lock braking

i always misread this thread title as "P5.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now." and think it's about persona 5

we've been on 5 for too long

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/robotics/images/4/49/Johnny_5.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20140422191506

FF16 announced, PS5 console exclusive

trailer had actual gameplay so maybe not forever away

it was like euro fantasy, got/lotr looking stuff

$500 for the full model with the disc drive, $400 for the skinnier digital-only one. unclear if theres any other differences

nov. 12 release

i shan't be buying one before 2022 though

looks like FF16 is being made by the FF14 team, which means it will be a bit janky animation wise but will actually come out during the generation
also maybe gone full action RPG? eh, might as well instead of fiddling around with hybrid systems which never work that well

they brought in the dmc/dragons dogma gameplay designer for it so it'll probably basically be final fantasy: dragons dogma

could be a lot worse. could be what they've been doing for a decade.

Yeah, 13 and 15 were huge missteps, and I never played the MMOs.

as always, I’ll probably mumble about maybe sticking to my PS4 and even getting further into PC gaming, and then will buy a PS5 the moment some shiny bauble of an exclusive title catches my eye

they're even putting most of the 'exclusives' on pc nowadays rather than trying to get pc gamers to buy their box

launch day prices are up, looks like $70/€80 is going to be the new norm oof

Demon’s Souls (Bluepoint Games / Japan Studio) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
Destruction All Stars (Lucid Games / XDEV) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales (Insomniac Games) – US$49.99/¥5,900/€59.99 (RRP)
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Mile Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 (RRP)
Sackboy A Big Adventure (Sumo Digital / XDEV) – US$59.99/¥6,900/€69.99 (RRP)

Yeah, seemed like this was the time they were going to raise the MSRP. I guess it's been a while.

Honestly the fact that Miles Morales will be on PS4... kinda tempts me to wait on PS5?
I still have my PS+ copy of Demon's Souls on a PS3 unplayed, sadlol

Also FF16 will be on PC and looks surprisingly generic

Definitely trying to wait a bit but I’m still running an original ps4 and it’s barely hanging on.

also sad lol for the big ambitious harry potter game finally showing up now

That Demons remake looks gorgeous

Demons does look good, I'll get to it in ... 5 years? Harry Potter looks like it will be available on current gen, too, right?

Huh, looks like new Spider-man might be PS4 as well?

It will be. Yeah, was hoping for other launch titles with more pull to reel me in, but... eh

i was hoping that the ps5 would be run more quietly than ps4, but it doesn't seem likely based on the sizes

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/ydozx4h1m6gh6ls5c3vo.jpg

Good god. Are those PS4 models 'slim' or the launch models?

$500 for the disc one which is about £380 but we're getting charged £450 instead. Plus ça change

20% VAT on £380 is £76 so £450 is... 6 pounds cheaper than the US price. Unless that's not how it works?

Ah, possibly.

I've always got confused by the US Sales tax system whenever I've been over there - so will it actually cost more than $500 to buy a PS5 in the States?

It depends on how sales tax works in that state iirc

Generally yes it'll be between $525-550 in the US depending on your locality. I think it'll be $542.60 where I live.

I've been super satisfied with the performance and graphics of my PS4, I'm still not entirely clear what this new one really brings to the table besides ... faster load times? But I suppose it depends on the exclusives. If the PS4 is any standard to go by then yeah, I can totally imagine getting a PS5 eventually for the exclusives, because the exclusives on PS4 rule.

I’m curious, do you have a pro?

My standard 4 has starting to feel sluggish and I’ve been getting frequent FPS drops. I assume it’s some combination of cooling (summer in an attic apartment) and disk issues. The Ethernet performance is also bad and the 802.11 performance is worse (likely attributed to living in a city with massive interference).

A Bluetooth upgrade would also be killer.

Anyway, I assume a lot of people will upgrade for better performance on games they are already playing (Fortnite, Apex, Overwatch, 2K, Madden, whatever). That’s kind of weird.

PC-ification basically

Getting a new graphics card for a desktop PC would cost the same as buying a PS5 or XSX

xpost I have a PS4 Slim, seems fine.

Like, the problems people have with graphics, performance ... when I encounter load times a second too long, or sluggish performance or slowdowns, it really doesn't bother me, because it seems so fleeting. Now, Doom on Switch? *That* bothered me, because it made parts of the game all but unplayable. Like, literally, not the hyperbole I hear referencing PS4 games. I've never seen anything close to that on my PS4. But I don't play online, maybe that's it.

Good god. Are those PS4 models 'slim' or the launch models?

i think thats the launch model if its the same width as the pro which is pretty big

folks, the PS5 is huge

it is sort of comically oversized, yes

the real reason for upgrading is the same as always: eventually some games will come out for a system you don't have and you'll want to play them

having said that, this is literally the first generation ever where i'm actually anticipating the new consoles somewhat instead of merely keeping up with the treadmill.
loading times are one of those things i don't care about most of the time but when they're bad they're *really* grating to the point of putting down a game. i bought a ps4 for bloodborne, played for 2 days, then stopped playing it until they patched the loading

the 3d audio thing also seems really cool but i'l reserve judgment on that until i've actually experienced it. still, it's nice that for once the new consoles feel like worth getting

re: '3d audio' - how is this different from recording in binaural and listening on headphones?