Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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We only rate dogs. There is a broken pipe in the basement. Please don’t send Cheetos. This is a fire hazard. Thank you... 13/10 pic.twitter.com/JqA2yRGcJj

— dog_fakes (@dog_fakes) June 11, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

i am deeply curious if the alt-text is human or machine generated

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

Check Dan's link. The text is AI generated based on the images.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 11 June 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

Ah, sorry, alt-text. Ignore my not reading properly. Apologies.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 11 June 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

The picture texts are human written. I was mostly just impressed with the chatbot snippets from the link I posted, though I’m not sure I really trust the author not to have cherry picked or “cleaned them up”. The generated dog pictures are not special and have been possible for years I think.

Dan I., Friday, 12 June 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

The generated dog pictures are amusingly grotesque. Humans like to be amused. Therefore the dog pictures serve their highest and best purpose, which is not to pinpoint the precise attainments of AI dog picture generation in June 2020 or educate people as to how long it might be before AI can generate wholly believable pictures of non-existent dogs. That sort of evaluation is better made via papers published in academic journals than on a Twitter feed.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 12 June 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

are u sure?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 12 June 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link

Neither the text or the images are believably “human” to me, though the text falls into a sort of prose uncanny valley while the pictures are all just deeply fucked up

El Tomboto, Friday, 12 June 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

i'm pretty sure the text was AI-written (and many of you didn't notice, heh!)

our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2020 04:59 (three years ago) link

in fact, the entire post dan l posted was all about the text of those tweets - the AI generated visuals barely warrant a mention

our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

Dan I, sorry!

our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

My bad, the dog ratings text is generated, but the alt-text (which I do not see and do not know how to view) is human written. She doesn't really do a good job of explaining all that, tbh. It'll be fun to play with the API first-hand.

Dan I., Friday, 12 June 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

and with that, i believe that AI has now reached 100% level

we are now in the age of 3fa23

our god is a wee lil god (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

hold your cursor motionless over the image for the alt text. I would've been more impressed if that was machine-written as it seems genuinely aware.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 June 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

yikes
http://www.shardcore.org/shardpress2019/2020/06/17/algonuts/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 June 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

face depixelizer

🤔🤔🤔 pic.twitter.com/LG2cimkCFm

— Chicken3gg (@Chicken3gg) June 20, 2020

koogs, Saturday, 20 June 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

One reason this thread title is correct is that so many AI researchers fervently believe in long-discredited pseudoscience: https://cacm.acm.org/careers/244713-facial-recognition-software-predicts-criminality-researchers-say/fulltext

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 22 June 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

That is so gross. Predicting "criminality" by looking at a photo is bias-reinforcing bullshit.

DJI, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

With 80 percent accuracy and with no racial bias, the software can predict if someone is a criminal based solely on a picture of their face. The software is intended to help law enforcement prevent crime.

Each of these sentences is horrifying. But the second is by far the worst. The amount of unselfconscious intellectual depravity exhibited in this press release is bleakly stunning.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

The thing where these companies simultaneously say that their systems are accurate but also impossible to quantify (what exactly is the AI seeing that is a marker for "criminality?") is some scary shit.

DJI, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

Like if it's not racial bias, what is it? Phrenology? Eye separation? Nose size? Hairstyle?

DJI, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

Yes, even a hint of the police putting this into practice is deeply disturbing. I'm also horrified to be (again) reminded that you can advance quite far in CS without learning the absolute basics of the history of science

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

i hope you all don't pay attention to china

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

I know you're just interrogating their bullshit, but it is obviously racial bias. Like what could they have possibly trained this on other than mugshots?

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

yeah totally.

DJI, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

The word "criminal" should be outlawed as a noun. It is an adjective and only applies to actions, not people.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

In less creepy AI news, researchers have made an AI that can watch people play Pac Man and then recreate a playable game on its own without any help. Pretty amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZzu4UQLcI

I love the two-minute papers YT channel. The guy is so enthusiastic!

DJI, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

"What a time to be alive!"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I have no idea if any of this is actually GPT-3 output or not, but some of it is pretty funny https://arr.am/2020/07/09/gpt-3-an-ai-thats-eerily-good-at-writing-almost-anything/

Dan I., Monday, 13 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

https://miro.medium.com/max/678/1*bs9aJJLm7ZGngUZ81bp1Gw.png

ciderpress, Friday, 17 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

yo
https://player.vimeo.com/video/426819809

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

i am not an NLP specialist and i don't work on AGI at all, but this thread is correct IMO

listen.... ... the text / code / etc generation from GPT-3 *is* super impressive but you have you remember its basically just a real good search engine

— everest (@everestpipkin) July 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

did talktotransformer use gpt-2? that was unquestionably a glorified search engine. if the examples are legit then gpt-3 seems to cover its tracks a hell of a lot better but hard to imagine there's been a sudden quantum leap in machine understanding. (to be clear: gpt-2 understands diddly-squat.)

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

yeah, t2t used GPT-2 models, of various sizes at different times.

sean gramophone, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

there is not a ~qualitative~ difference in the structure of the GPT2 and GPT3 models iiuc.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

it's not even _that_ great a search engine ("which is heavier, a banana or an airplane" "a banana" etc)

lukas, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

Not that this proves anything, but the guy in the video I posted specifically had GPT-3 write functions that (although very simple) were novel and couldn't have just been a search engine result.

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

Not that this is AGI, but I'm convinced that long after AGI exists, people are going to say that it's not AGI, and if it is, it's no big deal.

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

so what if the computer's smarter than me, a calculator can do much longer division than I can

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

could the functions have been a few different search engines results mashed together? how many times did he try it and were all the results valid functions? talktotransformer came up with new and unique sentences but they were 100% a product of the input.

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

right. he's not saying it's literally a search engine. this is the money tweet in the thread

i use AI in my own work, and i'm moderately positive about its capacity as a tool. but what I'm truly excited about is not the capacity to launder knowledge into new mush, but to organize knowledge in ways that are transparent, traversable, and human readable

— everest (@everestpipkin) July 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

oh god looking back at the brutal and stupid ai and they've found a way to make an ai that thinks just like me

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

What would be an example of organizing knowledge in ways that are transparent, traversable, and human readable, because it seems like writing a novel computer program to specific requirements does that. People are having it write front-end apps that "compile" (or whatever you call it with JS) to working websites.

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

just in case ppl haven't seen these examples which we're kind of discussing the responses to without having explicitly posted in the first place:

This is mind blowing.

With GPT-3, I built a layout generator where you just describe any layout you want, and it generates the JSX code for you.

W H A T pic.twitter.com/w8JkrZO4lk

— Sharif Shameem (@sharifshameem) July 13, 2020


I just built a *functioning* React app by describing what I wanted to GPT-3.

I'm still in awe. pic.twitter.com/UUKSYz2NJO

— Sharif Shameem (@sharifshameem) July 17, 2020

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

I dunno, if this stuff leaves you blasé you are far world-wearier than I, because I think it's fucking amazing.

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

I dunno, if this stuff leaves you blasé you are far world-wearier than I, because I think it's fucking amazing.

― Dan I.

not good. i am in pain.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

So coding knowledge is useless now?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

oh god looking back at the brutal and stupid ai and they've found a way to make an ai that thinks just like me

From the very first, our tools have always been capable of serving our basest, worst, most unethical purposes, so if AI ends up doing so at whatever level of competence it achieves, then it may be a 'big deal' but it should not be a surprise.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link


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