A Sanders diehard wrestling with this:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/06/bernie-sanders-defund-police-uprising
In short, he implicitly said the police should be partially defunded and resources spent elsewhere but didn't say so explicitly, or go further and call for abolition - so by simply clarifying his call for something his supporters assume he already believes, he can capture the spirit of the time and successfully plot a course between people who want too much change and want no change at all.
idk who's going to find that enormously compelling.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 June 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link
I assume he needs this sort of "read it how you want" ambiguity to keep the more & less radical elements of his support however united they still are, he would have relied on it even more if nominated. like an angrier leftier obama
― 1312 (Left), Thursday, 11 June 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link
the generosity extended to him by this writer, and by jacobin in general, is not really merited on this issue. corbyn was similarly appalling on the subject, and similarly more or less given a pass for it by jacobin's uk equivalents. i hope we can move on
― 1312 (Left), Thursday, 11 June 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link
sorry for Sh*r*l S8ndb*rg-referencing content but
In May, the Harris Poll and Just Capital, an independent research firm founded by the billionaire investor Paul Tudor Jones, surveyed 1,000 people on their thoughts about capitalism amid the pandemic. Only 25% of respondents said they believed our current form of capitalism ensures the greater good of society.For many this doesnโt come as a surprise. Prominent voices ranging from a top Harvard economist to the billionaire hedge-fund manager Ray Dalio have warned that capitalism would soon face a crisis because of the massive inequality exposed by the pandemic.Temporary hazard pay has shown how little grocery employees, food-delivery workers, and other essential workers are being paid (not to mention that many donโt get health insurance). The national closure of childcare centers also laid bare the unpaid work women do in the household. Black people, specifically Black women, were most at risk of layoffs and furloughs, and were less likely to survive (pay for groceries or rent) without work, according to research from Lean In, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandbergโs nonprofit.
For many this doesnโt come as a surprise. Prominent voices ranging from a top Harvard economist to the billionaire hedge-fund manager Ray Dalio have warned that capitalism would soon face a crisis because of the massive inequality exposed by the pandemic.
Temporary hazard pay has shown how little grocery employees, food-delivery workers, and other essential workers are being paid (not to mention that many donโt get health insurance). The national closure of childcare centers also laid bare the unpaid work women do in the household. Black people, specifically Black women, were most at risk of layoffs and furloughs, and were less likely to survive (pay for groceries or rent) without work, according to research from Lean In, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandbergโs nonprofit.
https://www.businessinsider.nl/capitalism-in-crisis-how-to-fix-capitalism-for-workers-2020-6?international=true&r=US
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link
anyway, nothing radical in there, but at least there's /some/ movement.
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link
I think it's fair to say Sanders' statement on that issue was just bad, and also that Sanders is going to fade out of relevance fairly soon because he's old and no longer running for anything (presumably won't even seek another senate term is my guess).
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 June 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link
Sanders is going to fade out of relevance fairly soon because he's old and no longer running for anything (presumably won't even seek another senate term is my guess).
Even if he doesn't run again, he'd still be in the senate for another four years. And he could stay in the senate...there are three 86-year old senators right now. His voice will remain relevant because there are millions of people who trust him and do not have much affection for the Democratic party.
― fatuous salad (symsymsym), Thursday, 11 June 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
enh I think he'll lose prominence over time as people become more desperate to cut ties with this whole awful period and find new figureheads to focus on
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
Holy shit. @KatyTurNBC just told everyone to read Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States."— Zach D Roberts (@zdroberts) June 11, 2020
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
lmao
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
I can't believe vacuous lump of misshaped ham actor Matt Damon lied to us all about Howard Zinn!
― calzino, Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
I just realized I don't really have any sense of how Zinn's rep has held up over the years, I barely see him referenced any more unless people are discussing Baby's First Radical Text or whatever
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
I think Sanders will lose prominence for the quite natural reasons that due to his age he will not be a viable presidential candidate in the future, due to the success his ideas are having nationally many younger leaders will emerge into prominence to carry the banner and consolidate national organizing, and due to the reluctance of the media and the Democratic leadership to give him the use of their platforms his major influence will be channeled through quieter back channels, as it has been for most of his career.
I'm hoping Sen. Jeff Merkley (D- OR) will be one of the leaders to emerge in the next several years, but it's pretty clear to me the House of Representatives is going to be the hotbed for emerging progressive talent, not the Senate.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
"Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism. The current crisis proved the opposite. Capitalism was remarkably easy to stopโor at least to interrupt." The great @MacaesBruno. https://t.co/16lFHvaPU8— David Wallace-Wells (@dwallacewells) June 23, 2020
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
The first student presentation of the semester began with, โIโm not gonna explain the anti-capitalist part of the reading โ weโre all Gen Z here, we hate capitalism.โMost of the students nodded vociferously.— Zachary Levenson (@grundrza) September 3, 2020
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
h-how... how do you... how do you nod vociferously
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
โhundreds of neck vertebrae popped and cracked, while jaws flapped up and down, making wet slapping noises, and mucus loosened from nasal passages was flung to the floor tiles, causing a cascade of splatsโ
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhBAquKWkAAa7c1?format=png&name=large
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
Tombotโs post for new board description
― rb (soda), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
this might fit here, felt like the description of the present was well-done and convincing, not so sure about how it tries to think it's way out of that present
https://www.e-flux.com/architecture/accumulation/337991/anthropocene-hubris/
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
its
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
caek thatโs a perfect description of Hacker News
― Dan I., Friday, 4 September 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
it's from max, offtopic for this thread i guess but very good!https://www.bookforum.com/print/2703/a-psychoanalytic-reading-of-social-media-and-the-death-drive-24171
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 4 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
broadly moderate tech journalist, now columnist, calling for a general strike in the paper of record
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/opinion/general-strike.html
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Thursday, 10 September 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link
good, bring it on
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 September 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link
I bought that book (on sale at Verso!) from Maxโs review
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
Something big happened this morning. David Attenborough, speaking on BBC radio, pointed to capitalism as the main driver of ecological breakdown. The debate is beginning to shift. https://t.co/C2PX7k5y33— Jason Hickel (@jasonhickel) October 8, 2020
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Thursday, 8 October 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
Makes a change from boring on about population I guess.
― seumas milm (gyac), Thursday, 8 October 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
Taro Yamamoto is a politician and former actor who has been called Japan's Bernie Sanders. Recently his party Reiwa Shinsengumi have put out posters supporting universal basic income. Poster's translation is "Print fat stacks of money, hand that shit out to everyone" pic.twitter.com/fqe7IWGqbu— Populism Updates (@PopulismUpdates) June 9, 2020
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link
The Biden Child Tax Credit boost is only for a year. They should make it permanent. The political hill wouldnโt be much higher and the benefits would be immense.— David Brooks (@nytdavidbrooks) January 15, 2021
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link
how many Americans have a Biden Child to claim credit for though??
― Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link
hunter needs to get to work
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link
milf hunter biden
― trans-panda express (m bison), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link
Well itโs not like he didnโt _try_, from all reports
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
In Oval just now. pic.twitter.com/UY9yuE2HaX— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) February 3, 2021
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
what will the twitter and op-ed freaks find to complain about since he left the mittens at home
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link
This page has a trigger warning for capitalism https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Hustlewave
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Thursday, 11 February 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
stimmy— New New York Times (@NYT_first_said) March 19, 2021
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 19 March 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/24/racist-and-reprehensible-jewish-power-set-to-enter-israels-parliament
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:44 (three years ago) link
Bibi is quite possibly the worst person on earth
― Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link
this doesn't seem like an example of left wing drift
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
it took them 4 elections in 2 years to elect a workable far-right coalition at least
― ใMyst1kOblivi0nใ (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
Meir Kahane's vision of Israel has really won out
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
I don't know that they have elected a workable far-right coalition this time either. That phrase would accurately describe most of Bibi's governments in the last ten years, however.
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
Indeed, I forgot the two threads had almost the same title, thought the right-wing one had come up recently and searched for 'west'. Doh!
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
this is supposed to be the good news thread!
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
There hasnโt been good news out of Israel since 1997
― Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
what happened in 1997?
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
Sorry, 95https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Rabin
― Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link