Sunak was such a lightweight and RLB was ripping him a new arsehole on the tv debate back in december. Its unbelievable how fast shit rolls uphill these days.
― calzino, Thursday, 11 June 2020 08:05 (three years ago) link
I don't know where the rest of that Bush piece goes but he's right and it leads to a lot of thoughts give the lie to the optics crowd
― rolling keyring (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link
also possibly to the change can be effected thru parliamentary democracy crowd
― rolling keyring (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 08:13 (three years ago) link
"A&E attendances at hospitals in England were down 42% last month compared with a year ago, new figures show. A total of 1.3m attendances were recorded in May 2020, down from 2.2m in May 2019."
People aren't even going to A&E and they aren't going to Primark either, whether 2m distance rule is scrapped or not.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link
hmmm i seem to remember that time kids' school records were being secretly shared w the home office to deport them (btw this is still happening) ...anyway, @AngelaRayner 's response was... "schools shouldn't take the place of the borders agency" š§ https://t.co/wH1dfIPbsV— gracie mae bradley (@graciemaybe) June 10, 2020
nice response from Rayner there for the benefit of imago who thinks she has been unfairly derided on here!
― calzino, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:21 (three years ago) link
So the Tory backbenchers are edging ever closer to just publicly saying it and damn the consequences - get out there, get our investments the economy moving again and who cares if a few OAPs die make a sacrifice, you bloody shirkers. Can't wait for Starmer to give them a Stern Look when the distancing rules are bunged in the bin. Expecting the R rate to remain as stubbornly unshiftable as a middle-aged man's paunch.
― bleach drinkers and health erasers (Matt #2), Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:22 (three years ago) link
The Conservatives aren't too worried about Labour because a) they have a hefty majority and no reason to call an election for four and a half years and b) they have other things to worry about right now, and conclude that if they fuck those up badly enough then they are screwed almost regardless of what Labour does. I suspect the thing driving the Sunak line is the (probably accurate) perception that the country is on the verge of an economic catastrophe. But this all seems to be based around the misconception that it's the lockdown itself that is suppressing economic activity, rather than the virus. But I think it's more likely that if they bungle the transition of lockdown then they will end up with a raging public health disaster AND an economic disaster at the same time.
This is interesting as well:
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/public-favourability-towards-boris-johnson-continues-fall
In terms of the parties themselves, 44% of Britons now have an unfavourable opinion of the Conservative Party, compared to 39% in May. Now, only a third (33%) are favourable towards the party, down from 36%. Labour numbers are consistent over the past two months having improved following Jeremy Corbynās departure as leader. 31% are favourable towards the party and 39% unfavourable. In ānet favourabilityā terms, the Conservative figure of -11 is identical to that seen shortly after last Decemberās General Election but Labourās figure of -8 is significantly improved from -27.
But also...
Meanwhile, 46% of Britons are favourable towards Chancellor Rishi Sunak, 19% are unfavourable. 32% are favourable towards Health Secretary Matt Hancock and 38% are unfavourable.
32% for Hancock, fucking hell.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link
Usual caveats about polling behind unreliable etc etc.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link
'Trying to stop people dying but not doing so very effectively' vs 'not trying to stop people dying and knocking it out of the park'.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link
If they just change their KPIs to read 'kill loads of people' they'll be looking at a five-star appraisal at the end of the year.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link
āHeās just knocking things out of the park and people canāt stand itāThis audience member says Boris Johnson has done a ābrilliant jobā. #bbcqt pic.twitter.com/ut0vZY6hVT— BBC Question Time (@bbcquestiontime) October 17, 2019
"knocking it out of the park"
― calzino, Thursday, 11 June 2020 09:53 (three years ago) link
scarily well did
Question Time 2048 pic.twitter.com/URDFi6VC8C— Dr. Jennie Bujoldš¹š³ļøāš (@JennieBujold) June 10, 2020
― nashwan, Thursday, 11 June 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link
lmao
― 1312 (Left), Thursday, 11 June 2020 11:19 (three years ago) link
Farage fired from LBC.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
silenced by the establishment yet again
― Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 June 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link
thanked for his service
― stet, Thursday, 11 June 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link
Times or TalkRadio to the rescue perhaps, or he's off to the States for the rest of the year.
― nashwan, Thursday, 11 June 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
throw him in the harbour ffs
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
UK about to slip into the bronze medal position in the Coronalympics btw, what with Brazil steaming up on the inside and almost topping 40,000 deaths already. I have a feeling plucky Mexico might beat us to the podium over the long run too. #FlatteningTheCurve
― bleach drinkers and health erasers (Matt #2), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
India coming through fast as well.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
UK applying for silver medal.
Rishi Sunak held a 1Ā½ hour session with 1922 committee today: * He suggested 2m rule should be cut to save jobs and help schools reopen* Warned 3.5million people could lose their jobs* Urged Tory MPs to encourage constituents to go shopping next week— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) June 10, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
Tory MPs driving round their constituencies in those megaphone cars shouting "GET TO ARGOS YOU FUCKING COWARDS"
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
*doing absolutely nothing to prevent getting covid when going to IKEA* please go to IKEA š
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
3.5m is a fuck of a lot of additional job losses, that's more than were officially unemployed at any point during the early 80s.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
Is Sunak thick or malicious, you have to wonder. It's going to be both, as always with this shower. Better 3.5m lost jobs than 1m dead
― stet, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
TBH I think what will happen is that a lot of people will get a sense of what non-essential socially-distanced shopping is actually like and go "fuck this, I'm ordering off the internet".
I don't enjoy shopping at the best of times, but speaking as someone who is absolutely desperate to go to the pub again the very idea of a socially distanced pub feels like such a profoundly joyless experience you might as well not bother.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
yeah i've been pondering that sad vision
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
however if the rain would just fuck off again i am prepared to sit on me own in a beer garden with a book for a month or two
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
ā stet, Thursday, 11 June 2020 bookmarkflaglink
If he could sacrifice a 1m people so that our IKEA shopping experience is back to normal he'd do it yesterday, and a lot of the population would be like 'jolly good show'.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
"Rishi Sunak held 3 separate sessions with groups of around 20 Tory MPs a time to ensure social distancing rules were observed
They were impressed
One Tory MP said it was a 'star-turn' and he was 'incredibly well-briefed'"
You really have to laugh.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link
maybe ikea should start selling flatpack coffins. grab a bag of charcoal on your way out and you're all set
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
They aren't going to be able to keep the shops open in the event of a spike and even if they do no one will go.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link
not (chortle) even if their (choke) Tory MPs beg them to?
― stet, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
Seventy years of Tory rule, with the leader changed every eighteen months to someone who absolutely isn't like the last one, honest.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
Other European countries appear to still be on the decline after relaxing lockdowns but they relaxed from a much lower base and with wider social distancing still in place. Chucking the 2m rule out of the window would just be asking for trouble.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
Their lockdowns were in general more comprehensive as well. Remember in France, needing a piece of paper just to leave your house?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link
something something French toilets gag
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
Tories still on a solid 40% despite everything, they'll push it as much as possible.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
Getting a strong sense of deja vu about all this - Johnson very possibly out next year, to be replaced by placeholder/ventriloquist's dummy Gove, followed by a few years of declining popularity then a soft Tory Labour leader coming in. History repeats itself etc., the difference being that this time it's after the end of the world re: climate change, not the oblivious run-up to it.
― bleach drinkers and health erasers (Matt #2), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
Keir is Labour to the core and knows how to write the agenda for a climate change enquiry
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
the war boys will take immaculate minutes when immortan joeās inquiry into the people eaterās tax affairs kicks off
― Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
Only on ILX could we get a sense of deja vu during a once in a lifetime pandemic.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
speaking as someone who is absolutely desperate to go to the pub again
I hear you, brother.
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
NV and once the enquiry takes place he can write the minutes!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
58% want the two metre rule to continue in latest YouGov poll, the tory govt is effectively giving people permission to copulate during this shambles. If we had a decent opposition leader, Labour would be ....points ahead right now .. blah blah!
― calzino, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
As the flood waters close over my head i ask, "is Starmer condemning this strongly enough?".
― ShariVari, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link
https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-cases-uk
Has there really been a 47% decline in new cases in a week or is this just flawed methodology?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
the Isle of Man has completely defeated the Rona and is now ending social distancing. Perhaps the Rona struggles with narrow gene pools.
― calzino, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
Maybe the virus decided to go easy out of respect for the online gambling industry.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
xp v sus imo
― rumpy riser (ogmor), Thursday, 11 June 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link