ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

i went down a serious rabbithole yesterday looking for a replacement for my all-in-one warm-and-waterproof-and-yet-lightweight jacket from Army & Navy (a House of Fraser sub-brand that no longer exists).

i found the snugpak torrent:
https://www.snugpak.com/outdoor/clothing/torrent

the patagonia torrentshell for half the price (what is it with torrents??)
https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-torrentshell-rain-jacket/83802.html

and then some pretty high-end options, like the paramo alta iii:
https://www.paramo-clothing.com/en-gb/explore-range/product/?pk=7E4E57C9-1B9D-4E57-A523-45E45CA56D38&attributes=5A01410B-7BF6-46CC-8A97-FFEA0A577F6E

and the outdoor research interstellar ascent:
https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/mens-interstellar-jacket-271501?search_result=1

now i recognise that most of these are going to make me look like a cliffwalking pensioner and i don't care. i want something that i can wear every day in the cold, and keep the rain off me, but not make me too hot if it's like 8 degrees out. and can double as a ski jacket. but man my brain just started turning to jelly looking at all this stuff. the TECHNICAL shit, the pit vents, the high-riding zips that won't get hidden by your belt pouch. you've got a belt pouch, right?

man it's june i can't look at these!

THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK

lmao my dad (72, peak district regular) has that paramo jacket

for something so ostensibly simple, I feel you on the "why so complicated????" thing

you shop at https? cause your outfit is ://

— Derek Guy (@dieworkwear) June 14, 2020

is everyone else's feed full of ads for fancy face masks now

my Instagram ads are half masks half pizza

where can I buy one?

https://i.etsystatic.com/19583668/r/il/542ada/2276759344/il_1588xN.2276759344_kv78.jpg

i'm getting married on new year's eve and need to pick a tie. my suit is a charcoal "ludlow" suit from j.crew (nothing fancy) and both me and the other men in the wedding are wearing white dress shirts. each of them is wearing either a charcoal or a navy suit. my shoes and belt are black.

any ideas? i want to do something "life affirming" but still wintry. if it matters, the wedding is at a church in manhattan. i ordered a hunter green linen tie but it didn't really do it for me.

would a solid burgundy be good? or some kind of stripe? i don't like ties that are too "glossy" but i don't want to be informal. whenever i look up wedding outfits it seems forced. would a plaid tie of some kind work with a charcoal suit?

https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Prince-of-Wales-Tartan-Tie/MA03000_____RED__REG______,default,pd.html?src=googleshopping&cmp=ppc_us_gg_DR_PLA_ML_438767199546_100603230703_2446200196&gclid=Cj0KCQjwt4X8BRCPARIsABmcnOqLa96oyX8iao3IrdgCn3k0Vx0ry_iJKnLuTN2P8XDLqtjjEAP03LQaAu4WEALw_wcB

too much?

how exciting! congratulations. so, i tend to be pretty conservative on these things, but my thinking is that with dark, solid suits and white shirts, a plaid is going to draw a lot of attention. in particular, you don't want you and your groomsmen to look like christmas decorations that need to be boxed up for next year.

i think a solid burgundy or a stripe with a predominant burgundy is a great place to start. consider material as well--linen isn't going to work on dec. 31. i would be looking for grenadine knits or wool ties that have some weight to them. if i have some time later i'll poke around for some specific ideas.

A grenadine tie is a good suggestion! You can get some decent ones from Charles Tyrwhitt: https://www.ctshirts.com/us/silk-grenadine-italian-luxury-tie---burgundy/TIL0482BGD.html?pf=pdp_colour_swatch

There's also such a think as a 'wedding tie' which means things like fine checks, houndstooth patterns, etc. usually in shades of gray or somewhat close. Here's one that's in wool, so it will be wintery but still somewhat refined: https://www.thetiebar.com/product/TIE-4941-0174

This one too: https://www.thetiebar.com/product/TIE-2033-0001

Or this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ralph-Lauren-Purple-Label-Silk-Tie-Made-in-Italy-Black-and-Silver/373114607291?hash=item56df5d16bb:g:AaIAAOSwhQhY6IH3

You can also do small prints ('neats).

Whatever you choose, I'd try to find a tie in a width that is somewhat similar to the width of the lapels on your jacket. It'll look a bit more unified.

er, typos, and on second look the first Tie Bar example I posted isn't as much of a true check as I thought, but you get the idea

Congratulations - and grenadine thirded. I wore charcoal suit + green grenadine tie from Drake's for my wedding.

where to find cheap casual ie draw string not belt loop shorts with mid thigh ie 5-6" inseam

got some from either j crew or j crew factory earlier this year but prob out of season now.

yeah i checked there already

what does the world have against 5" shorts its normal

oh actually jcrew does have some that match the description tho they are $60 and somehow excluded from the sale that says on everything

ugh. i may have sucked it up and paid that because it was getting hot in the pandemic and i needed more things with drawstrings.

i got a couple pairs 7" on sale from the gap but i am still in the market for more

https://www.vogue.com/article/tiktok-shorts-trend-5-inch-inseam

some brands listed there idk

oh might have to spring for some patagonia shorts bro

undersized patagonia baggies make for well-fitted, appropriate-length shorts suitable for most occasions

stock running kinda low but corridor nyc has some pretty good 6-7" ones on sale

https://corridornyc.com/collections/sale

This limits your outfits drastically, as you will look like you are either going for a run or a swim and thus can’t wear them in professional or formal settings.

where to find cheap casual ie draw string not belt loop shorts with mid thigh ie 5-6" inseam

thats cool i have a shorts time machine

https://thethrowbackstore.co.uk/collections/nba-basketball-shorts/products/philadelphia-76ers-shorts-size-large-3

why are you buying shorts in november in colorado?

wow can i live

Maybe macrame yourself a pair

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-ranger-panties-navy

no need to thank me and have fun in palm springs!!!!

lol

I got two of LL Bean’s “Men's Scotch Plaid Flannel Hooded Shirt, Slightly Fitted” and now they’re basically all sold out in every size and color because they rule

https://cdni.llbean.net/is/image/wim/508169_0_44?hei=1092&wid=950&resMode=sharp2&defaultImage=llbstage/A0211793_2

so cozy

tom i love how defined your aesthetic is

why are you buying shorts in november in colorado?

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wow can i live

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I was tempted to wear my baggies last week because I miss them, but it was 4 degrees celsius and raining out

I knew this was a tombot pick before I scrolled down to confirm poster

I need a new jacket that zips up and is good for DC winters but I hate puffer jackets, hate them. why is this so hard

some patagonia ish might be in your zone tom?

I got a bright orange windbreaker-looking thing with fleece lining

i did a big hunt for warm yet lightweight yet waterproof coats a few months ago and gave up, my eyes blurred, my hands shaking, my dreams that night strafed with a hundred blazing ropes of product lines that sound like the names of hideo kojima videogames - torrentfall, climbshell, etc

i think they're called '3 layer coats' or something because they protect you from 1) rain 2) cold 3) errr girls? idk. anyway i didn't get anything.

lol @ "torrentfall, climbshell"

Columbia is great for the kind of thing you are describing - lightweight, warm, not puffy, reasonably priced. I have a Columbia coat that I got for like $60 at Costco - no down or anything, that has a really nice profile and is fine for all but the coldest winter days. It has this slightly weird crinkly material on the inside that reminds me of fast food wrap and supposedly does something something thermal something. Whatever, it keeps me warm, it looks good, and it was $60.

It's pretty similar to this actually, except that for $175 I hope that there's something superior about it to mine
https://www.columbia.com/p/mens-last-tracks-jacket-1909921.html?dwvar_1909921_color=023&pos=1