if people of color are required to post nothing but content related to the protests, then the ability to post other content is indeed a privilege granted only to whites.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link
otoh, if posting any kind of instagram content that is unrelated to the protests is a prima facie case that the person posting has spent no thought upon the reasons for the protests, or dismisses their importance, has no interest in them, or simply ignores them because they feel uncomfortable thinking about them, then - yup - those are definitely manifestations of a white privilege. so, it all depends on several factors not clearly established by the choice of instagram content alone.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link
There's no question that that's the point that is supposed to be getting across, and I'm saying I don't like that framing, because the subtext is "feel guilty that YOU have these things and other people don't" instead of "everyone clearly should have these fairly minimal things."
i don't think that's true, although i have often felt that way. guilt is one way of processing all of this, and a very natural one, for a white person. but i don't think it's a productive way, or the intended consequence of thinking about white privilege. and when i feel that way, it is almost always a framework that i am putting on myself, not one that other people are putting on me. by itself, before i add my own bullshit on top of it, "white privilege" is an acknowledgement of the gap between our real living conditions and lived experience. what we do with that information and how we process it is up to us
― Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link
otm
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link
"white privilege" is an acknowledgement of the gap between our real living conditions and lived experience.
this was poor writing, sorry. i am tired. i meant the gap between the living conditions of white people and the lived experience of non-white people
― Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link
xp yeah my feeling on the whole "you are privileged if you are not sharing x on instagram" is (1) well no not really but (2) that's a pretty effective way of getting people to share stuff on instagram, and ultimately who cares, you don't actually have to do it.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:22 (three years ago) link
There is also something about privilege-acknowledgement that feels, to me, uncomfortably like saying grace to society rather than being outraged at injustice I guess.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:25 (three years ago) link
Good news everyone moved on from the privilege thing like 5 years ago mostly. The new meme is abolishing the police.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:27 (three years ago) link
not in my facebook feed!
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link
Maybe quit Facebook, dunno what to tell you dude
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:34 (three years ago) link
yeah, facebook fucking blows
― Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link
I'm too old for tik tok
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link
ty Karl
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 8 June 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
not really specific to this thread, but since we discussed integrated schools, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/podcasts/nice-white-parents-serial.html.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link
IDK if there's a critical mass of people for a thread on school integration, but it's an issue I've followed a lot. Interested in that podcast for sure, particularly as I try to reckon with the fact that I attended an integrated middle school and a 90-95% african american high school but haven't prioritized school integration for my kids.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link
Is it easier to integrate virtual classrooms?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
will be interested in your thoughts xp
found this completely maddening btw. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/parenting/children-screen-time-games-phones.html. i can see why people find the privilege self flagellation of, e.g. the integrated schools movement (above) a turn off, but the smugness with which she concedes that she has no idea what she's talking about because of privilege, and then proceeds to tell people what to do, is on another level.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
Oh, I worked with that author once, and yeah, I canโt say Iโm surprised she wrote that.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 2 August 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
so is doordash goodโฆor bad
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:27 (one month ago) link
It is new look carriage trade, so bad. Shop for your own damned groceries.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:41 (one month ago) link
delivery is bad. got it.
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 14:43 (one month ago) link
I don't have a problem with delivery per se. I usually do pickup when ordering food because I have a car and it's often quicker, but different strokes. That said, if I needed to have food delivered, I'd rather just go through the restaurant directly than use an app like Doordash or Grubhub.
― jaymc, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link
how many more timeshttps://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-prole-info-abolish-restaurants
― brimstead, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:02 (one month ago) link
Can I pay someone to read that for me?
― President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link
food is bad
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:24 (one month ago) link
making the same dish over and over again increases the power of the simulacrum
― President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:44 (one month ago) link
delivery groceries are good when everyone in your household has covid and needs to eat
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:52 (one month ago) link
anyway, in my glorious communist future, we will all have delicious restaurant meals served to us by comrades talented at cooking who enjoy it
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:53 (one month ago) link
how many more times
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-prole-info-abolish-restaurants
โ brimstead, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:02 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
can still have doordash without restaurants tho, needs a second "abolish grocery stores" article
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:25 (one month ago) link
― sarahell, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:44 (one month ago) link
โ steely flan (suzy), Monday, March 25, 2024 7:41 AM bookmarkflaglink
it's for food delivery, not merely groceries, and services like this were extremely important to my mother and I when she was home alone and couldn't leave dad in the house by himself, or when we were emotionally drained after a long day of caretaking and didn't have the energy to leave the house. I imagine there are plenty of others who use the service for similar reasons who also aren't rich.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link
Iโm in an area where a lot of healthy, physically fit and wealthy people use our version of doordash, the rich lazy fuckers.
Anyone living with illness or a disability (or caring for others who might) isnโt catching wrath from me for using delivery services!
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 25 March 2024 19:53 (one month ago) link
IDC if people use it or not as long as they tip well.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:51 (one month ago) link
For groceries anyway. For restaurants that already have existing delivery though you're just putting money in the pocket of a big corp that could be split between you and the restaurant instead. I try to go direct for food delivery where possible.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:52 (one month ago) link
replace this thread with claude.ai
Honestly pretty good https://t.co/GWJEESAbsC pic.twitter.com/hLzCG0NwPe— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) March 25, 2024
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:09 (four weeks ago) link
_anyway, in my glorious communist future, we will all have delicious restaurant meals served to us by comrades talented at cooking who enjoy it_It is a wonderful idea โฆ I have friends who attempted thisโฆ the place still exists but not quite the way they had envisioned
― It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:20 (four weeks ago) link
robots, obv
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:27 (four weeks ago) link