privilege as a meme

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there was some of that on my wall this weekend, where my ex's ex-husband got accosted and told he was abusing his privilege for posting frequent non-protest stuff on his wall.

he's known for exaggerating so idk what *really* happened but

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link

yesterday i saw like two instagram stories within 5 minutes where people were like "dear white friends: if you are not using your instagram stories to post about the protests, please be aware that it is a privilege to refrain from doing that! if your instagram story doesn't currently have something relevant, i see you!"

but like idk maybe it's just that i think instagram stories aren't a very good way to spread information or make meaningful statements? but i felt guilty anyway and found something useful to post so i guess it worked.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

(i should clarify that both of the ppl who posted those stories were white.)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link

if people of color are required to post nothing but content related to the protests, then the ability to post other content is indeed a privilege granted only to whites.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

otoh, if posting any kind of instagram content that is unrelated to the protests is a prima facie case that the person posting has spent no thought upon the reasons for the protests, or dismisses their importance, has no interest in them, or simply ignores them because they feel uncomfortable thinking about them, then - yup - those are definitely manifestations of a white privilege. so, it all depends on several factors not clearly established by the choice of instagram content alone.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

There's no question that that's the point that is supposed to be getting across, and I'm saying I don't like that framing, because the subtext is "feel guilty that YOU have these things and other people don't" instead of "everyone clearly should have these fairly minimal things."

i don't think that's true, although i have often felt that way. guilt is one way of processing all of this, and a very natural one, for a white person. but i don't think it's a productive way, or the intended consequence of thinking about white privilege. and when i feel that way, it is almost always a framework that i am putting on myself, not one that other people are putting on me. by itself, before i add my own bullshit on top of it, "white privilege" is an acknowledgement of the gap between our real living conditions and lived experience. what we do with that information and how we process it is up to us

Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

otm

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 June 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link

"white privilege" is an acknowledgement of the gap between our real living conditions and lived experience.

this was poor writing, sorry. i am tired. i meant the gap between the living conditions of white people and the lived experience of non-white people

Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link

xp yeah my feeling on the whole "you are privileged if you are not sharing x on instagram" is (1) well no not really but (2) that's a pretty effective way of getting people to share stuff on instagram, and ultimately who cares, you don't actually have to do it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:22 (three years ago) link

There is also something about privilege-acknowledgement that feels, to me, uncomfortably like saying grace to society rather than being outraged at injustice I guess.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:25 (three years ago) link

Good news everyone moved on from the privilege thing like 5 years ago mostly. The new meme is abolishing the police.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:27 (three years ago) link

not in my facebook feed!

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link

Maybe quit Facebook, dunno what to tell you dude

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:34 (three years ago) link

yeah, facebook fucking blows

Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

I'm too old for tik tok

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link

ty Karl

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 8 June 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

not really specific to this thread, but since we discussed integrated schools, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/podcasts/nice-white-parents-serial.html.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

IDK if there's a critical mass of people for a thread on school integration, but it's an issue I've followed a lot. Interested in that podcast for sure, particularly as I try to reckon with the fact that I attended an integrated middle school and a 90-95% african american high school but haven't prioritized school integration for my kids.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 1 August 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

Is it easier to integrate virtual classrooms?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

will be interested in your thoughts xp

found this completely maddening btw. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/parenting/children-screen-time-games-phones.html. i can see why people find the privilege self flagellation of, e.g. the integrated schools movement (above) a turn off, but the smugness with which she concedes that she has no idea what she's talking about because of privilege, and then proceeds to tell people what to do, is on another level.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link

Oh, I worked with that author once, and yeah, I canโ€™t say Iโ€™m surprised she wrote that.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 2 August 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

so is doordash goodโ€ฆor bad

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:27 (one month ago) link

It is new look carriage trade, so bad. Shop for your own damned groceries.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:41 (one month ago) link

delivery is bad. got it.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 14:43 (one month ago) link

I don't have a problem with delivery per se. I usually do pickup when ordering food because I have a car and it's often quicker, but different strokes. That said, if I needed to have food delivered, I'd rather just go through the restaurant directly than use an app like Doordash or Grubhub.

jaymc, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link

how many more times

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-prole-info-abolish-restaurants

brimstead, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:02 (one month ago) link

Can I pay someone to read that for me?

President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

food is bad

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:24 (one month ago) link

making the same dish over and over again increases the power of the simulacrum

President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:44 (one month ago) link

delivery groceries are good when everyone in your household has covid and needs to eat

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:52 (one month ago) link

anyway, in my glorious communist future, we will all have delicious restaurant meals served to us by comrades talented at cooking who enjoy it

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:53 (one month ago) link

how many more times

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-prole-info-abolish-restaurants

โ€• brimstead, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:02 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

can still have doordash without restaurants tho, needs a second "abolish grocery stores" article

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:25 (one month ago) link

anyway, in my glorious communist future, we will all have delicious restaurant meals served to us by comrades talented at cooking who enjoy it


It is a wonderful idea โ€ฆ I have friends who attempted thisโ€ฆ the place still exists but not quite the way they had envisioned

sarahell, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:44 (one month ago) link

It is new look carriage trade, so bad. Shop for your own damned groceries.

โ€• steely flan (suzy), Monday, March 25, 2024 7:41 AM bookmarkflaglink

it's for food delivery, not merely groceries, and services like this were extremely important to my mother and I when she was home alone and couldn't leave dad in the house by himself, or when we were emotionally drained after a long day of caretaking and didn't have the energy to leave the house. I imagine there are plenty of others who use the service for similar reasons who also aren't rich.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link

Iโ€™m in an area where a lot of healthy, physically fit and wealthy people use our version of doordash, the rich lazy fuckers.

Anyone living with illness or a disability (or caring for others who might) isnโ€™t catching wrath from me for using delivery services!

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 25 March 2024 19:53 (one month ago) link

IDC if people use it or not as long as they tip well.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:51 (one month ago) link

For groceries anyway. For restaurants that already have existing delivery though you're just putting money in the pocket of a big corp that could be split between you and the restaurant instead. I try to go direct for food delivery where possible.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:52 (one month ago) link

replace this thread with claude.ai

Honestly pretty good https://t.co/GWJEESAbsC pic.twitter.com/hLzCG0NwPe

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) March 25, 2024

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:09 (four weeks ago) link

_anyway, in my glorious communist future, we will all have delicious restaurant meals served to us by comrades talented at cooking who enjoy it_


It is a wonderful idea โ€ฆ I have friends who attempted thisโ€ฆ the place still exists but not quite the way they had envisioned

Ah, but who will serve the servants? Checkmate, liberals!

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:20 (four weeks ago) link

robots, obv

President Keyes, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:27 (four weeks ago) link


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