why don't you poll me I feel like flying to... the UNDERWORLD Poll Results thread -- produced by Smith & Hyde for ILM Artist Poll #102

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that's about underneath the radar of course

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

oh I haven't heard it in years but it was definitely a guilty pleasure when I was 18

the songs are all too long though

― frogbs, Thursday, June 4, 2020 5:47 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

aha. Same here til I gave it a spin for voting. Could not get into it, but did like a big chunk of "Change the Weather". Ah well, they are pretty similar!

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

i think it was brotherlovesdub talked up a couple of tracks from Breaking and Entering, which I hadn't bothered with before. They were great and I voted for both. I even watched the movie---that part is not recommended

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

Yeah, those tracks in the campaigning thread were great (but I still didn't get time to listen to the album :( )

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

Only two people bothered to list Underneath the Radar? including me at #15 or whatever? Or is there some maximum ballot length there?

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

my logic was that, as I can't vote for freur LPs, I'm not voting for any LPs which are worse than freur LPs.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

still voted for 10 LPs though

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

I'm glad we're having these conversations. Respect.

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

B&E soundtrack is pretty good but I didn't vote for it sadly

frogbs, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

11. MANCHESTER STREET POEM
26 points, 3 votes

2017* digital album, 64:50

it's short...but! there is apparently an entire album of this stuff.

https://i.imgur.com/Q4ZiKm3.jpg

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

I just didn't have time to listen to collaborative LPs, sadly.

Did nobody vote for Change The Weather then?

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

* played in situ 2017, released as purchase for charity 2019

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

Did nobody vote for Change The Weather then?

whoa we're really asking for spoilers this early?

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

Surprise #1?

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

I listed it. and got piled on really bad in the voting thread for mentioning it

but I will continue to

https://youtu.be/nxdNS8WNSOY

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

Stand Up isn't bad exactly, but that video! Just because you've had a hit in Australia doesn't mean you need to turn into Midnight Oil.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

btw nice writeup at top, sic. That "two people..." business that was in the Listen To Their No copy is too sweet.

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

10. RIVERRUN
77 points, 8 votes

2005-2006 digital EP and physical singles project, approx 90 minutes in most common form

New Underworld EP Release: 'Pizza For Eggs'

https://i.imgur.com/f6KFBcF.jpg

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

Only 8 votes? Did some people decide to go tracks or movements only since it's not really an "album"? Whatever. Love it all together but didn't come up with much from it in my track ballot at the end.

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

My #10. Ending of Pizza For Eggs is the best bit.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

#6 here

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link

i voted for it pretty high

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

it's alright sober too

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

I didn't cross-reference the ballots, but I assume most people chose to either vote per "song," per EP-as-track, or in albums for Riverrun*... but also it's just way less known, and was one of their least-visible projects to begin with.

*though I did one of each

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

9. BARKING
142 points, 6 votes

2010 Cooking Vinyl 2xLP, 54 minutes
Top chart position: #26, UK

Underworld - Barking (Sept 13 2010)

https://i.imgur.com/jnO5oC8.jpg

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

(slightly) too low!

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

Too many songs with the same palette and purpose was this album's undoing for me. Hamburg Hotel possibly my favourite thing on it as a result.

nashwan, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

Not meaning to undersell the evident variety of at least 50% of it.

nashwan, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

Rediscovered "Between Stars" here. I loved "Scribble" at the time but now I get the fan love for "You Do Scribble" over the single/vocal version. Massive track. I had the album at an even lower rank, but still so much to love. Crazy.

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

Crazy.

― maffew12, Thursday, June 4, 2020 2:21 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

hey my internet is back! guess my hacking the results joke led to some bad webkarma

huge points jump from 11 to 9!* (*i don't pretend to know how points work)

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

love Barking and I agree 9 is too low but idk what I'd bump for it

frogbs, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

i had it at 4 but i think i was being challopsy putting it above 2 stone cold classics

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

the version of Barking that exists only in my head is definitely one of their best albums though

frogbs, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

so, who's been to Barking?

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

I voted for Riverrun, I hadn't heard any of it prior to this poll but as a whole thing I like it more than any of the proper post-'90s albums.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

i've been to barking for years WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

What's the version in your head like?

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

8. A HUNDRED DAYS OFF
160 points, 7 votes

2002 JBO/V2 2xLP, 62 mins
Top chart position: #6, Belgium

Underworld: a hundred days off, leftism part II

https://i.imgur.com/n6DthPk.jpg

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

ooh now that's really too low. my #4

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

rated PG for some pretty sinister beats

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

underrated record that i've personally underrated in the past that remains underrated

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

Cruel, cruel math

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

this is one of the ones that just gets lost in the shuffle for me (aside from the incredible sort-of title track) but thats prob on me

fun fact: this album cover makes a cameo in, of all movies, EUROTRIP

https://i.imgur.com/HSbh6Rx.png

I guess scotty doesn't know......... ABOUT ALL THE OTHER GREAT RECORDS IN THEIR CATALOGUE

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

It was just the newest at the time. The math works.

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

What's the version in your head like?

ALAF with the groovy bassline, You Do Scribble with vocals, Diamond Jigsaw with the synth, and the original Moon in Water

frogbs, Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

Barking (Mad Version)

nice!

maffew12, Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

7. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING
162 points, 13 votes

2000 live DVD, 101 minutes
Top chart position: #12, Netherlands

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boar did=41&threadid=19530

https://i.imgur.com/wfEPIib.jpg

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

& Strumpet instead of Bird 1. Bird 1 is good, but it's not as good as Strumpet live was.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

everything everything too low

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 June 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

UW do a ton of those propulsive rolling bass lines though, it's kind of a signature sound for them

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:31 (ten months ago) link

Speaking of UW and video games, look what I found while clearing out old stuff...

https://imgur.io/a/7TNCVrN

I forgot they had a ps2 game!!

Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 03:27 (ten months ago) link

seven months pass...

rong

bae (sic), Friday, 12 January 2024 18:21 (three months ago) link

not a bad list, I appreciate that Ova Nova is in there, but yea kinda boring finish. feel like I'm kinda alone in thinking NUXX is not a top 20 UW track. nothing against it they just have a really great catalogue.

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 18:25 (three months ago) link

"dune" at 10 is a fun choice

ivy., Friday, 12 January 2024 18:26 (three months ago) link

NUXX is classic but almost the best thing about it for me was how it served as a most excellent gateway drug to the rest of their work.

omar little, Friday, 12 January 2024 18:29 (three months ago) link

I could easily make an alternate top twenty with zero overlap.

omar little, Friday, 12 January 2024 18:30 (three months ago) link

The UW Drift group on FB lost their mind over that a couple of weeks ago lol.

It's like, calm down it's just one person's opinion and doesn't invalidate any of your personal favourites

groovypanda, Friday, 12 January 2024 18:39 (three months ago) link

my nighttime routine with my 6 year old daughter now involves playing music on my phone, she really likes ambient stuff and luckily my phone is loaded with it. the other day I decided to play some Underworld, first the track "Most 'Ospitable" which was always a favorite of mine. listening close I noticed a number of things - first of all, I guess I get why it's called a "Dark & Long" remix, it does have the same choral noise in it. so there *is* a little similarity there. secondly a lot of the odd noises that float in and out - specifically that ka-thunk guitar noise, I think actually dates back to their mk1/Freur days. I think that aspect makes their ambient stuff unique, not just the sounds but also the way snippets of Karl's voice and recorded conversations weave around everything, reminds me more of what The Orb does than anything else. next up I put on "Wedge/Showlder" and realized it's kind of the same template. such a beautiful piece of music too.

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

Americans discussing purchasing a vest

is Hyde not the "nice little vest, light" guy?

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 January 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link

boring finish

i think this poll ended the same way, by combining Rez and Cowgirl's votes?

The real answer is Rez.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 January 2024 19:51 (three months ago) link

is Hyde not the "nice little vest, light" guy?

I really don't think so, idk who it is though. I thought it was just some overheard conversation Karl recorded, iirc he used to carry around tape recorders a lot in those days which is where a lot of the weird dialogue you hear in UW tunes comes from

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 19:58 (three months ago) link

though it could be Rick as well? I remember once upon a time he did a sound installation for something which was mostly ambient music but there was a really cool aspect to it, he was using these emotionless robot-sounding voices that seemed to be having real mundane conversations, almost as though he had recorded like 15 minutes worth of small talk over dinner and input every word into a text-to-speech app, it sounded pretty unnerving actually

frogbs, Friday, 12 January 2024 20:04 (three months ago) link

Most Ospitable is so great, still can't believe that it wasn't until the poll that I acquainted with it properly.

nashwan, Friday, 12 January 2024 23:37 (three months ago) link

What is "Wedge/Showlder" ? Google not giving me any results

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 13 January 2024 08:45 (three months ago) link

they're tracks on i'm a big sister...

ufo, Saturday, 13 January 2024 13:10 (three months ago) link

I still think “If Rah” is the Barbara track of choice

the new drip king (DJP), Saturday, 13 January 2024 14:52 (three months ago) link

I don't have much of a problem with that list ... or at least I don't have much of a problem with its top 8

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 January 2024 14:58 (three months ago) link

If Rah is boneheaded trash imo. It’s jock jams / big beat shit to my ears. This list was pretty trash too actually. First 8 are ok, the rest are from someone who must have lost the ability to hear or they are intentionally trolling.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 13 January 2024 15:20 (three months ago) link

i feel that way about Dinosaur Adventure 3D, though i loved it at the time.

i like the sentiment of a completely alternate top 20, above, but cmon the heavy hitters are undeniable

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 13 January 2024 15:41 (three months ago) link

Yeah I mean an alternate top 20 wouldn't necessarily be 100% accurate, my own number one would probably be Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love.

My top 20 might lean slightly more on OWB and BBWHASF.

omar little, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:22 (three months ago) link

What is "Wedge/Showlder" ? Google not giving me any results

― I am using your worlds, Saturday, January 13, 2024 2:45 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxK7AyNMUBQ

the entire EP is very much worth a listen but the bit I'm referring to starts around 15:00

frogbs, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:36 (three months ago) link

also very much recommend the first two tracks on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Y6KBSukHU

and this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CyQ6pAgrk

hints at a more New Wavey direction they could've gone in but didn't. always cemented for me how different these guys were than the rest of the 90s UK dance scene, none of 'em would've come up with tracks like this

frogbs, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:42 (three months ago) link

Ah thanks. I have the riverrun eps downloaded, but hadn’t split and tagged the individual tracks. I’ll listen again.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:52 (three months ago) link

Wish these were cds that were widely available rather than 192kb mp3s

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link

Yeah I mean an alternate top 20 wouldn't necessarily be 100% accurate, my own number one would probably be Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love

Turns out your number one is 100% accurate omar

groovypanda, Saturday, 13 January 2024 18:58 (three months ago) link

I couldn't even stomach a fully alternate top twenty, I'd be lying to myself and God without that one at the top.

omar little, Saturday, 13 January 2024 19:02 (three months ago) link

looked back at my ballot and had completely forgotten "beautiful burnout" was my no. 1. i'm right

would put "peach tree" at no. 2 these days tho

ivy., Saturday, 13 January 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

despite what i said yesterday, Juanita was my #1 too

hmm, you could put Juanita 2022 on top as kind of a cheat for your alt list. in isolation (not putting on STITI) i prefer it!

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 13 January 2024 20:53 (three months ago) link

an alternate top 20, off the top of my head:

Thing in a Book
Most 'Ospitable
Oich Oich
Cherry Pie
Banstyle/Sappy's Curry
Mo Move
Luetin
Food a Ready/Back in the Fears
Peach Tree
Wedge/Showlder
Holding the Moth
Faxed Invitation
Between Stars
Bird 1
You Do Scribble
Ova Nova
Parc
Get Your Shirt
Custard Speedtalk
Listen to their No

frogbs, Saturday, 13 January 2024 21:02 (three months ago) link

can we redo this poll so i can put "denver luna" in my top 20

ivy., Friday, 19 January 2024 17:18 (three months ago) link

ok

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 19 January 2024 17:19 (three months ago) link

I too will try to game how to make "Tin There" place higher if we repoll

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2024 17:24 (three months ago) link

you wanna know something crazy I played "Custard Speedtalk" during my DJ set yesterday and someone correctly identified it as "the guy from Freur", adding "it's too bad he passed away"

frogbs, Friday, 19 January 2024 18:17 (three months ago) link

OMG, lol!

groovypanda, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:15 (three months ago) link

Whilst I love both tracks, I'm still bitter that Rez and Cowgirl's votes were combined

groovypanda, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:16 (three months ago) link

I spent most of the drive home trying to figure out who he could've been thinking of and my best guess is Keith Flint

frogbs, Friday, 19 January 2024 20:07 (three months ago) link


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