starting in section VI
― J. Sam, Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
Ah ha, that makes sense.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link
I'm enjoying the textures on this version. It would be interesting to hear or make a fully electronic/programmed version though (not saying it would be good, part of the magic is the super tight but still human playing that keeps the loops from getting stale).
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 4 June 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link
i would love to hear a keith fullerton whitman version
or tbh one with some fuckin amen breaks
― j., Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
This is making me want to dig out my copy of Reich Remixed, which might be a mistake, it's been so long.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
Oh dear, yeah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6hCtDes24
thinking of getting four or five versions up and shuffling them track by track for some super chaotic energy
― j., Friday, 5 June 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link
There was a version done on 18 synths in a cathedral in Dublin a few years ago. Was absolutely great.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
For a second there my estimation for Val Kilmer really went up(Val Kilmer is not involved)
Wow. Just wow. Val Wilmer, on meeting Steve Reich, in @dubdobdee’s brilliant new book on the UK music press, A Hidden Landscape Once A Week. pic.twitter.com/GhBDEKsO5p— Andrew Male (@Andr6wMale) January 25, 2019
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
she relates the same anecdote, without naming reich explicitly, in the first few pages of "as serious as your life"
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
does he not disparage ornette coleman specifically in that anecdote also? poopooing his third stream skies of america?
― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
lol thats depressing
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
xp no, that story is about members of the london philharmonic talking shit about SOA, which they'd been hired to play. the steve reich story follows closely. the whole point of the introduction being a kind of litany of instances where black musicians aren't taken seriously by "important" white composers and institutions.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
ah, thanks for correcting me
― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Steve "Third" Reich
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
Rumoured to be a Trump supporter too, to top it all off.
― mirostones, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
Music For 18 MAGAtts
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
dammit
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
There is a specific ilx user who could expand on this anecdote, perhaps.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
i feel like "fuck Steve Reich" adequately covers it tbh
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
I wonder how he feels about this album:
https://img.discogs.com/VcD39kal21pROlL87dUykuVODHE=/fit-in/500x495/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-966800-1391803047-1748.jpeg.jpg
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
Trump on Reich, in his 2009 book "Think Like a Champion" https://t.co/ijQvlEuioZ pic.twitter.com/8rVwAigl0h— Will Robin (@seatedovation) November 2, 2016
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
not that trump actually wrote that tho
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
Don Van Vliet based the rhythm of 'Bat Chain Puller' on the wipers in his Volvo, maybe Trump likes Beefheart too
― this is my clean tone (NickB), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
Also fuck Steve Reich
Hmmm…
https://www.motherjones.com/anti-racism-police-protest/2020/07/how-steve-reich-made-music-out-of-white-complicity/
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
what the fuck, I did not need this
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
Is this the part where I'm allowed to say I never liked him as much as everyone else anyway? (This is true btw.)
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link
This is a good take.
Steve Reich is probably one of the most over performed composers of all time. Less Reich only means more obscure stuff getting a foot in = win win win.— Fielding Hope (@fieldinghope) September 8, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
otm
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link
Piece doesn’t mention that Come Out was created as a benefit to aid the Harlem Six, this Pitchfork piece has a bit more on the background to its creation. https://pitchfork.com/features/article/9886-blood-and-echoes-the-story-of-come-out-steve-reichs-civil-rights-era-masterpiece/
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link
Makes more recent comments all the more dispiriting.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link
Not the first Jew of his generation to go from civil rights ally to trump supporter.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link
As long we get to keep Riley I'm fine
― lukas, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
the trump thing feels a bit unsubstantiated
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link
If not a full Trump supporter. A Reagan Democrat. I speak from close first hand knowledge of the political evolution of the New York metropolitan area boomer Jew.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
Reich was always my fave and I backed him in any number of Reich vs Glass arguments but recent viewings if interviews and documentaries definitely has me preferring to hang out with Glass, should I be invited. Riley of course I’m unimpeachable and just shy of being a deity himself.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
"If not a full Trump supporter"?
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
What are the more recent comments? The Wilmer quote is her memory of something he allegedly said about 50 years ago, in the "civil rights ally" days, right? The quote from Trump's book isn't even based on hearing his music.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link
Tbf I've never seen a photo of him without a cap.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
"One of the most over performed composers of all time" is almost jawdropping tbh. You've seen a symphony calendar before?
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link
It may be not be true, but it is truthy.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link
not referring to the quote in his book but to someone mentioning rumors that he supported or voted trump.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link
It just seems very nebulous.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
― mirostones, Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:13 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
source?
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure the 'source' is Trump's ghostwriter and Twitter telephone.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
Twitter's having a field day with this I see. Almost responded to a comment about the problematic nature of working with the Daniel Pearl Foundation, which is islamaphobic, thus he is. Starting writing about the Cave, but decided to not step into that minefield. Don't know why I'd do the same here.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link
Literally the only thing I could find about him being a Trump supporter was one totally rando accusation based on literally nothing (at least last I checked) on that Twitter thread. I find no other indication or evidence that that is the case. Could it be true? I mean, I guess. He is in his 80s after all. However, I doubt it. The idea that he has been a secret right winger, let alone racist, is I suppose possible, but seems ... unlikely? Kind of reminds me of when Wendy & Lisa accused Trevor Horn of being a virulent homophobe, which was a shock but also was the beginning and end of the claim.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link
Rumoured to be a Trump supporter too, to top it all off.― mirostones, Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:13 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglinksource?― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 03:49 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 03:49 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Well, there is this:
Not surprising considering some pro-Trump comments he made at PASIC a few years back and—OH YEAH AN ENTIRE CAREER BUILT ON CULTURAL APPROPRIATION https://t.co/2F1W1TFumy— Annika Socolofsky, PhD (@aksocolofsky) September 8, 2020
She seems to imply she was an eyewitness? If so, that could have credibility. But who knows.
― mirostones, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link
Whole lotta hearsay goin on. Again, could all be true, but this is a guy who has been in the public eye for decades. To read the person you just posted literally say "we should outright cancel the guy" ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link