Steve Reich : Music for 18 musicians (question)

It does sound gridded, yeah, which is probably the key difference I was hearing. There is a credit for a Roland CR-68 drum machine on the Bandcamp page so I figured at least one of the parts was programmed on that but I couldn't identify which it would be.

There’s only a few sounds that a CR-68 can make

Can you pick it out in the recording?

I admire the devotional aspect but the identical arrangement with simpler timbres makes me feel like I'm listening to a low bitrate MP3 of the ECM recording

I think the CR-68 is used to emulate the maracas/shakers

starting in section VI

Ah ha, that makes sense.

I'm enjoying the textures on this version. It would be interesting to hear or make a fully electronic/programmed version though (not saying it would be good, part of the magic is the super tight but still human playing that keeps the loops from getting stale).

i would love to hear a keith fullerton whitman version

or tbh one with some fuckin amen breaks

This is making me want to dig out my copy of Reich Remixed, which might be a mistake, it's been so long.

Oh dear, yeah...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6hCtDes24

thinking of getting four or five versions up and shuffling them track by track for some super chaotic energy

There was a version done on 18 synths in a cathedral in Dublin a few years ago. Was absolutely great.

For a second there my estimation for Val Kilmer really went up
(Val Kilmer is not involved)

Wow. Just wow. Val Wilmer, on meeting Steve Reich, in @dubdobdee’s brilliant new book on the UK music press, A Hidden Landscape Once A Week. pic.twitter.com/GhBDEKsO5p

— Andrew Male (@Andr6wMale) January 25, 2019

she relates the same anecdote, without naming reich explicitly, in the first few pages of "as serious as your life"

does he not disparage ornette coleman specifically in that anecdote also? poopooing his third stream skies of america?

lol thats depressing

xp no, that story is about members of the london philharmonic talking shit about SOA, which they'd been hired to play. the steve reich story follows closely. the whole point of the introduction being a kind of litany of instances where black musicians aren't taken seriously by "important" white composers and institutions.

ah, thanks for correcting me

Steve "Third" Reich

Rumoured to be a Trump supporter too, to top it all off.

Music For 18 MAGAtts

dammit

There is a specific ilx user who could expand on this anecdote, perhaps.

i feel like "fuck Steve Reich" adequately covers it tbh

I wonder how he feels about this album:

https://img.discogs.com/VcD39kal21pROlL87dUykuVODHE=/fit-in/500x495/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-966800-1391803047-1748.jpeg.jpg

Trump on Reich, in his 2009 book "Think Like a Champion" https://t.co/ijQvlEuioZ pic.twitter.com/8rVwAigl0h

— Will Robin (@seatedovation) November 2, 2016

not that trump actually wrote that tho

Don Van Vliet based the rhythm of 'Bat Chain Puller' on the wipers in his Volvo, maybe Trump likes Beefheart too

Also fuck Steve Reich

Hmmm…

https://www.motherjones.com/anti-racism-police-protest/2020/07/how-steve-reich-made-music-out-of-white-complicity/

what the fuck, I did not need this

Is this the part where I'm allowed to say I never liked him as much as everyone else anyway? (This is true btw.)

This is a good take.

Steve Reich is probably one of the most over performed composers of all time. Less Reich only means more obscure stuff getting a foot in = win win win.

— Fielding Hope (@fieldinghope) September 8, 2020

otm

Piece doesn’t mention that Come Out was created as a benefit to aid the Harlem Six, this Pitchfork piece has a bit more on the background to its creation. https://pitchfork.com/features/article/9886-blood-and-echoes-the-story-of-come-out-steve-reichs-civil-rights-era-masterpiece/

Makes more recent comments all the more dispiriting.

Not the first Jew of his generation to go from civil rights ally to trump supporter.

As long we get to keep Riley I'm fine

the trump thing feels a bit unsubstantiated

If not a full Trump supporter. A Reagan Democrat. I speak from close first hand knowledge of the political evolution of the New York metropolitan area boomer Jew.

Reich was always my fave and I backed him in any number of Reich vs Glass arguments but recent viewings if interviews and documentaries definitely has me preferring to hang out with Glass, should I be invited.

Riley of course I’m unimpeachable and just shy of being a deity himself.

"If not a full Trump supporter"?

Makes more recent comments all the more dispiriting.

What are the more recent comments? The Wilmer quote is her memory of something he allegedly said about 50 years ago, in the "civil rights ally" days, right? The quote from Trump's book isn't even based on hearing his music.

Tbf I've never seen a photo of him without a cap.

"One of the most over performed composers of all time" is almost jawdropping tbh. You've seen a symphony calendar before?

It may be not be true, but it is truthy.

not referring to the quote in his book but to someone mentioning rumors that he supported or voted trump.

It just seems very nebulous.

Rumoured to be a Trump supporter too, to top it all off.

― mirostones, Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:13 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

source?