""trolling""- has the meaning changed?

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Musk has a BS in Physics,which makes him uniquely qualified to comment on everything

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

It's the fabric of the universe, mang.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

I actually think burrito generation might be a new troll

nope not a troll! I've been an off-and-on ilxr since around 9/11. was del griffith before I impulsively decided to ditch that handle a few months ago. I liked Karl's paint sale fundraiser idea, and I do like me a good donation match opportunity, and I did like the paintings too, but I've got enough of those at home already so I thought I'd see if I could use my donation for something a little more unique/creative/provocative. it's not because the handle Karl Malone offends me personally, but it does have a vaguely questionable ironic lol flavor to it especially in a social justice context you've gotta agree! more the sort of thing you'd expect of a 4channer or a boogaloo boi. and no I'm not certain how the dynamic would change if you were black or I was black, cause we're not.

anyway, $100 was sent with the intent you'll match it and send it on to your chosen bail fund.

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

That clears up a lot! Thank you.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link

oh christ, del griffith, that explains yr terrible posts

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

oh christ, del griffith, that explains yr terrible posts

chow down on my anus you stupid idiot

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

so it seems like the two of you are already acquainted

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

xp - terrible riposte

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

del griffith, thank you for your donation. i will put it toward the fundraiser now. i explained my thinking on the name and the man in the other thread, so i don't know what to tell you.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

well I don't know who that is cause I'm the burrito that defined a generation and not del griffith but hey right on that's cool don't worry about it! I'm glad those moneys found a home

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

chow down on my anus you stupid idiot

― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:22 AM bookmarkflaglink

lol yr sub-ethan burns are cuet

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

well this is all very awkward

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link

RHONDA!!!!!!

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/EFxgxQ6.jpg

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

Rong thraed

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

Or is it?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 4 June 2020 06:56 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Phil Collins

Neanderthal, Thursday, 17 September 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-Hj73ES2U

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 17 September 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

watch yourself or you're going to get a temp

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 17 September 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link

i watched 2 minutes of that and there was no sexual content - thanks for trolling the trolling thread

sarahell, Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

dennis turned out to be a more boring and stupid fella than anticipated tbpfh

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

?

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

Rhonda get the fUCK in here

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

?

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 November 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

For whom the bell trolls?

pomenitul, Sunday, 29 November 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Loose definition there: "saying a thing that stands up to no logic scrutiny or could even be a sincere belief beyond the desire to get a rise out of people you don't like"

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:12 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok we have baseline

ty for yr service nv

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:14 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean I don't hold with hard definitions in general but baseline, yeah, that's something like a baseline

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:15 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Next level of complexity is that the sincerity of the troll's statements should always be on some level plausible, like it's just possible a Swinson is so tied into her bubble that she cannot see the logical dishonesty there

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:17 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

gonna have to unpick that one maybe

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:20 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe not the thread to go deep into that specific example but roughly "I cannot support this candidate with a number of obvious qualifications for temporary leader of the government but hey I had a word with a couple of absolutely unqualified chums and wouldn't they be much better choices?"

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:23 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Now either she *knows* why they're ludicrous suggestions or she's so deep in her own game she can't see the ludicrousness. The outside observer's uncertainty is a very troll-like situation

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:25 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Schrödinger stuff, from outside yes

but does it rely on whether or not *she* is aware of the ludicrous uncertainty in order to be trolling (as i type it out it seems obvious that it does)

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:27 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

"a thing that stands up to no logic scrutiny or could even be a sincere belief beyond the desire to get a rise out of people" depends a lot on the individual oftentimes u have two ppl who both think the other person is trolling bc neither are capable of imagining a different perspective

― Mordy, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:28 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think it does because death of the author and as Burroughs might've described it the troll inside

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:29 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Intentionality is not being taken into account this season, it's about whether the hand or arm are in an "unnatural" position IIRC.

― Tim, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:29 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

xp

yeah sure Mordy but to the extent I'm engaging with this in good faith it is very much about perspective, social context, history and the speakers' knowledge of one another, like all language really

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:31 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

you will ofc be aware that in such a designation the other variable is the observer's capacity for befuddlement

allow me to further muddy water by suggesting an advance troll technique:

the observer so puzzled by whether or not something is a troll or not that any third party onlooker (and indeed the original subject, the suspected troll themselves) might wonder whether or not the perplexed-possible-trollée is not infact a faux-trolled-troll

fuckit mordy got in there

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol tim

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think to troll one must be on at least some level intending to troll, so i disagree nv

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

we shall, possibly, have to lurk under that bridge when we come to it

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

For there to be trolling, intent is paramount. Except, of course, the most successful specimens rely on the trollee's structural inability to reliably decipher the troll's exact intentions. In other words, the best trolling may or may not be an instance of trolling at all.

Apologies for restating the obvious.

xps

― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel like an essential component of trolling is the ethos that self-amusement/-satisfaction > comity.

― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:34 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh yes and no

the intent is from the pov of the troll and therefore, while it can be unknown from outside, it can never have an actual value of unknown

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:35 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

The heart of it is in here somewhere, maybe

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

We don’t need two people doing these shit revives, tbh

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

we need more

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

it is *very* important to not fall in love with martin shkreli

imago, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

Easier said than done.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

are we really going back to the viking thing?

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

lol

(i feel the same way)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

I feel comfortable stating that nobody, when first confronted with the phrase "that's where I'm a Viking", has ever sincerely believed that "to be a Viking" is an extant phrase implying excellence

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

NV, I can see that you have a good deal of insight into the workings of other people's brains, it's a field in which you excel, in fact.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

what about sentences such as "when it comes to raiding and looting Irish monasteries, that's where I'm a Viking!"

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

#notonethread

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

Hate speech is it

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

Still think the heart of it was in there somewhere

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

A+ trolling here, written well enough to make people angry without being over the top

question for the ladies- do you check your man’s phone?? 🤔 would he let you??? 🤔 i explained to my man early on that in order to trust him i would be doing random daily phone checks❤️ happy 3 weeks baby pic.twitter.com/2plFyIXMDK

— Grace (@gracecamille_) March 2, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

why u coming home
5 in the morn

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

yanks cap makes this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

I’ve already told my partner the calming effects of Martin Clunes GIS searches, I’ve got nothing to hide

brimstead, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't trust a dude enough to announce that I was going to do "random daily phone checks" ... that's like announcing DUI checkpoints, if they're smart enough they'll go around them, and if they're stupid enough not to know, then they're not someone I'd want to be with romantically

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link

best response

I went thru an SO's phone once, but only bc I suspected he was cheating. I was right and my sister, who was house-sitting for us while we were traveling to a wedding, almost trashed his house to avenge me, but I told her not to. We broke up about a yr later but are still friends

— ndr Chrpntr (@quo_vadis_83) March 2, 2021

lukas, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link


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