Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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He did write that invaluable piece on bellingcat re b00g4l00

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

Boring, MD: You mean stuff like this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

JJ Macnab on Twitter is also a good follow

Corollary. It isn't the Hawaiian shirt that indicates "boogaloo." It's how they choose to accessorize their Luau-wear. pic.twitter.com/pE1FOIqicm

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) June 2, 2020

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

This is so crazy it’s morning now in New Zealand and they’re marching for #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/KxegRDzTK3

— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) June 1, 2020

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Yes, she's great. xp

peace, man, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure if this article is linked somewhere in this thread, but it's a good short (15-page) overview of policing in America and definitely helps put a lot of things in context for people who may be interested but have never thought about it before.

https://plsonline.eku.edu/sites/plsonline.eku.edu/files/the-history-of-policing-in-us.pdf

It's hard to think of many people I want to hear from right now less that putz.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

I find him unreadable. Was what he wrote heartbreaking-good or heartbreaking-bad?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

lol like I need to click on it to know the answer

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

jon otm

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

You see the U.S. is screwed-up.

There, I said it.

holy moly, Lefsetz is done fucking around!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

someone finally with the guts

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Say we play too fast
The music's not gonna last
Well, I think you're wrong

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

Reading that was the equivalent of watching a man shout at a mirror through a megaphone while wearing a diaper on his head

(so serious) (DJP), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

I imagine it was akin to most things that travel through diapers.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Dunno how reliable this data is, but, well:

A Morning Consult poll conducted on May 31 and June 1 — several days after demonstrations began in protest over Floyd’s killing at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer who held a knee to Floyd’s neck for nearly 9 minutes — finds that 54 percent of Americans either strongly support or somewhat support the protests that are going on. Conversely, just 22 percent say they somewhat oppose or strongly oppose the demonstrations.

These protests have much more support, according to the poll, than the recent calls for “reopening America” that took place weeks ago (and which had the strong backing of the president). The poll suggests that just 28 percent of respondents think those protests were worthwhile, while 46 percent say they opposed them in a general sense.

As for the clashes taking place between protesters and the police presence at events across the country, more Americans than not still side with the views of those who are demonstrating, with 55 percent in the Morning Consult poll saying police violence is a bigger problem than violence against the police. Just 30 percent hold the opposite opinion.

Most Americans do not view Trump’s management of his administration’s response to the protests in a positive light, either. Just 30 percent of Americans think he’s addressing the situation in an “Excellent,” “Very Good,” or “Good” way. Another 11 percent give him a grade of “Fair,” while a plurality of respondents (43 percent) say he’s doing a “Poor” job so far.

https://truthout.org/articles/majority-of-americans-support-uprisings-disagree-with-trump-poll-finds/

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

22%. 28%. 30%. 30%. There's Trump's unshakable base.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

30 percenters.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

What isn't helping my sanity today is having every co-worker that lives anywhere in Chicago sharing every single Facebook group rumor or "intel" they come across.

According to the screenshots and emails I've been copied on, there must have been at least five dozen U-Haul trucks filled with "mollitive" (my favorite misspelling so far) cocktails and bricks discovered so far today. And approximately 55% of the gas stations in the city are now closed because they ran out of gas due to "Antifa/white supremacists/looters/out-of-state people" filling up hundreds of containers each.

There's a reason I don't look at Facebook, I don't want to see this shit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

Live Stream of the Houston March

https://abc13.com/?ex_cid=ktrkspdns

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

I, for one, am shocked that 14-worders would ever stoop to such underhanded tactics!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/

pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

Hahaha a screenshot of that exact Tweet is what one coworker shared last night, apparently used by their building's management as an example of "intel".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

In front of a Parisian courthouse thousands of protestors gather in homage and protest for Adama Traoré. A young black man killed by French police in 2016. #JusticePourAdama https://t.co/JMtEQ20tdl

— #ftp wave (@prolewave) June 2, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

If you have French, this is a very good interview on police brutality in France and the US:

https://www.marianne.net/societe/mort-de-george-floyd-en-france-la-police-blesse-beaucoup-mais-elle-tue-peu

pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

thanks for the link, ums

fatuous salad (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

Those in power who want us to focus on looting and property damage instead of the thousands peacefully protesting are trying to distract us from the terrible violence that engulfs the lives of working people every day. As Coretta Scott King reminded us, violence takes many forms. pic.twitter.com/Gz66Q2VWXs

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) June 2, 2020

what a terribly wasted opportunity for this country

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

Politicians who cross the MPD find slowdowns in their wards. After the first time I cut money from the proposed police budget, I had an uptick in calls taking forever to get a response, and MPD officers telling business owners to call their councilman about why it took so long.

— Steve Fletcher - Minneapolis Ward 3 (@MplsWard3) June 2, 2020

j., Tuesday, 2 June 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

Good old mob style racket

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

this is amazing

Hey! This was me. I was glad to get time and criticize these losers, but there are other voices that deserve attention more than mine.

Including @ayoedebiri @ayobrobro @BLMLA @zachsherwin @safrazie

Also please do check out https://t.co/EH4NYTLvTX https://t.co/0QvOK3kfIz

— Jon Barr (@JonBarrTweets) June 2, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

(context: LAPD had a (prescheduled?) public meeting today via zoom.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

They just announced that 60,000 people are at the Houston march/rally (3x the expected turnout).

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

that meeting is still going on, i had to check if it was real after caek's tweet. everyone calling in is just ripping the police chief and it's amazing.

contorted filbert (harbl), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

LA public meetings are always insane circuses but mostly because they attract people who like to yell racial slurs (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-city-county-meetings-expletive-curse-racial-slur-language-20190419-story.html). Making them more productive is one good thing to come out of this. Of course non of this will be reported on local tv which doesn’t report on local politics at all and right now is only interested in looters in Beverly Hills and the valley.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-man-shelters-protesters-home-curfew
landowners sheltering protesters from being brutalized by DC cops is now passing as a feel-good story

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

LA BLM demo forming up now at the mayor's residence with the plan to ignore curfew, so 1) thanks to people putting their bodies on the line 2) look for that on your tv in 2 hours.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

Apparently Elizabeth Warren is protesting at the White House fence

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link

hop the fence Liz!

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

Um

Also: 700 members of the 82nd are at Joint Base Andrews and Fort Belvoir. 1,400 more soldiers are ready to be mobilized within an hour. Soldiers are armed and have riot gear. They also were issued bayonets—standard issue but some feel could be inflammatory https://t.co/Ieo86bc4yF

— James LaPorta (@JimLaPorta) June 2, 2020

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

I've got a student filming the rally in Naples (!), Florida on Instagram. So proud of her.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

christ those LaPorta tweets are disturbing

Alfred, this thread made me feel better than I'd felt all day:

would love to see more visibility for the protests happening in smaller cities and towns. if one is happening/did happen in your area, tell me about it. https://t.co/LKdp19B3Mf

— Anne Helen Petersen (@annehelen) June 2, 2020

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

preceding any military deployment would have to begin with a proclamation ordering "insurgents" to disperse within a specified (limited) period of time, giving them time to cease their activities. troops could then only be sent in with an Executive Order only after the "insurgents" failed to disperse within the declared amount of time has passed.

Obviously, I wouldn't put it past Trump to do something he can't legally do and wait for the court challenge (which in this case, would be horse/barn door), but I don't get the impression he actually wants to do this, or he'd have done it (the rumors have been going back to Friday). He seems like he'd rather get credit for stopping the riots with his speech threatening federal action rather than actually having to take it, which would bear out why he congratulated several states as having 'stepped it up' in his Tweet this morning, and focusing his ire mostly on New York.

But, being that Trump is almost impossible to predict, who knows?
There are several Governors who have indicated they would fight Trump on this, so

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

wow:

The Minneapolis school board just voted to terminate the school district's contract with the city's police department, and to end the use of police officers as "school resource officers."

The vote was unanimous.https://t.co/bvjuIowfZN

— Lois Beckett (@loisbeckett) June 2, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

previously the University of Minnesota has also cancelled their contract with the MPD. Pretty unprescendented.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link

To use one of my Minneapolis maps, pay mind to how the police , in two phalanxes, drove the protest and then riot around the 5th precinct up to east lake and then split the group in half, driving it in separate directions from eachother on the streethttps://t.co/s2YmX3Q3mg

— ✈️ 𝕻𝖞𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖆 ᴿᴬᴳᴱᑫᴰᴬᴱⱽᴬ 𝕾𝖍𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖔𝖎𝖓 ✈️ (@PartyPrat) June 2, 2020

j., Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

So, curfew has come and gone in several cities, like DC. But the crowds are still there, right?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

some in DC are still voting

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link

Bravery.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

looks like everybody I know is in full on "report everything you hear as if it is gospel" mode. just going to scour news and journalist twitters and this thread from here on out, pls nobody make anything up

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile, in Houston

This feels like when the Riders of Rohan arrived to save Helms Deep pic.twitter.com/tUf8DQNz7l

— Zack Bornstein (@ZackBornstein) June 2, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link


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