Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

doesn't seem like I can donate to WBC from outside the US, an all too common issue

oh nvm all the address stuff is optional!

thanks Simon very appreciatied they need it up there

neanderthal - thanks ok just exhausted.

everything is so confused, I think we are getting paranoid and seeing ghosts to some extent but then real, verifiable things are happening too and it gets so hard to separate

which I guess is exactly the point

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-02-20/h_98f026c33f5f4bdcbe991cbed382af97

^6 ATL cops under arrest for excessive force. Were previously just fired

ums, my buddy in your neighborhood was in the all night watch last night and he said things seemed a little quieter finally... was that your sense? (Aside from mr call of duty)

just donated, ums

Haven’t lived in Atlanta for a while but I’ve been impressed with mayor Bottoms. This, letting killer mike speak at a mayoral press conference and reopening the child murder cases. Mostly symbolic stuff, but the right kind of symbolic stuff

I've been involved with local Antifa activities since they started here in the '90s, and there really isn't much more to it than what's there in the name. It's just bunch of anarchists and other radical leftists coming together for demonstrations/protests/etc against fascism, racism, and other far-right threats, under the Antifa banner that can be used by anyone who's against those threats. There's no central organisation, nationally or internationally, no agenda beyond anti-fascism and anti-racism, no long-term plans for revolution or insurrection.

Tuomas otm -- there are groups/cells here that affilate with Antifa but are also their own name. Saturday night I watched that biopic about Dalton Trumbo and HUAC starring Bryan Cranston, and then this Antifa = terrorist thing is like ... wow are they gonna revive HUAC?!

There is definitely tension and distrust here between some Black organizers/progressives and white anarchist activists which is unfortunate.

Hey, does anyone know of people who monitor right-wing social media and websites and them seeing anything about Boogaloo types deliberately stirring shit up?

Born and bred MPLS native here (grew up one block from Lake Nokomis). Love to all who I there. I've been donating too.

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ums, my buddy in your neighborhood was in the all night watch last night and he said things seemed a little quieter finally... was that your sense? (Aside from mr call of duty)

― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, June 2, 2020 11:42 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think so?

I'm assuming there might have have a certain contingent that had to get back to work after the weekend. Whether this becomes their new hobby is another question...

Like I said I think everyone is tired and stressed and may be seeing some stuff as suspicious that's not, but I guess that's what domestic terrorism does

In a funny way, there's not a sort of bizarro world racial profiling that's developed in south Minneapolis, everyone on the lookout for suspicious looking white males, which is sort of awesome if I step back from it

Boring, I don't know will tell ilx if I find out

Thanks voodoo!

xps to Boring, Maryland

https://twitter.com/IwriteOK is often good at keeping track of the online right-wing facebook groups and shit, but he's mostly been livestreaming and tweeting from the protests for the past couple days and I don't know if he's mentioned anything about that recently.

He did write that invaluable piece on bellingcat re b00g4l00

Boring, MD: You mean stuff like this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html

JJ Macnab on Twitter is also a good follow

Corollary. It isn't the Hawaiian shirt that indicates "boogaloo." It's how they choose to accessorize their Luau-wear. pic.twitter.com/pE1FOIqicm

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) June 2, 2020

This is so crazy it’s morning now in New Zealand and they’re marching for #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/KxegRDzTK3

— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) June 1, 2020

Yes, she's great. xp

I'm not sure if this article is linked somewhere in this thread, but it's a good short (15-page) overview of policing in America and definitely helps put a lot of things in context for people who may be interested but have never thought about it before.

https://plsonline.eku.edu/sites/plsonline.eku.edu/files/the-history-of-policing-in-us.pdf

HEARTBREAKING:

https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2020/06/01/blackout-tuesday/

It's hard to think of many people I want to hear from right now less that putz.

I find him unreadable. Was what he wrote heartbreaking-good or heartbreaking-bad?

lol like I need to click on it to know the answer

jon otm

You see the U.S. is screwed-up.

There, I said it.

holy moly, Lefsetz is done fucking around!

someone finally with the guts

Say we play too fast
The music's not gonna last
Well, I think you're wrong

Reading that was the equivalent of watching a man shout at a mirror through a megaphone while wearing a diaper on his head

I imagine it was akin to most things that travel through diapers.

Dunno how reliable this data is, but, well:

A Morning Consult poll conducted on May 31 and June 1 — several days after demonstrations began in protest over Floyd’s killing at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer who held a knee to Floyd’s neck for nearly 9 minutes — finds that 54 percent of Americans either strongly support or somewhat support the protests that are going on. Conversely, just 22 percent say they somewhat oppose or strongly oppose the demonstrations.

These protests have much more support, according to the poll, than the recent calls for “reopening America” that took place weeks ago (and which had the strong backing of the president). The poll suggests that just 28 percent of respondents think those protests were worthwhile, while 46 percent say they opposed them in a general sense.

As for the clashes taking place between protesters and the police presence at events across the country, more Americans than not still side with the views of those who are demonstrating, with 55 percent in the Morning Consult poll saying police violence is a bigger problem than violence against the police. Just 30 percent hold the opposite opinion.

Most Americans do not view Trump’s management of his administration’s response to the protests in a positive light, either. Just 30 percent of Americans think he’s addressing the situation in an “Excellent,” “Very Good,” or “Good” way. Another 11 percent give him a grade of “Fair,” while a plurality of respondents (43 percent) say he’s doing a “Poor” job so far.

https://truthout.org/articles/majority-of-americans-support-uprisings-disagree-with-trump-poll-finds/

22%. 28%. 30%. 30%. There's Trump's unshakable base.

30 percenters.

What isn't helping my sanity today is having every co-worker that lives anywhere in Chicago sharing every single Facebook group rumor or "intel" they come across.

According to the screenshots and emails I've been copied on, there must have been at least five dozen U-Haul trucks filled with "mollitive" (my favorite misspelling so far) cocktails and bricks discovered so far today. And approximately 55% of the gas stations in the city are now closed because they ran out of gas due to "Antifa/white supremacists/looters/out-of-state people" filling up hundreds of containers each.

There's a reason I don't look at Facebook, I don't want to see this shit.

Live Stream of the Houston March

https://abc13.com/?ex_cid=ktrkspdns

I, for one, am shocked that 14-worders would ever stoop to such underhanded tactics!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/

Hahaha a screenshot of that exact Tweet is what one coworker shared last night, apparently used by their building's management as an example of "intel".

In front of a Parisian courthouse thousands of protestors gather in homage and protest for Adama Traoré. A young black man killed by French police in 2016. #JusticePourAdama https://t.co/JMtEQ20tdl

— #ftp wave (@prolewave) June 2, 2020

If you have French, this is a very good interview on police brutality in France and the US:

https://www.marianne.net/societe/mort-de-george-floyd-en-france-la-police-blesse-beaucoup-mais-elle-tue-peu

thanks for the link, ums

Those in power who want us to focus on looting and property damage instead of the thousands peacefully protesting are trying to distract us from the terrible violence that engulfs the lives of working people every day. As Coretta Scott King reminded us, violence takes many forms. pic.twitter.com/Gz66Q2VWXs

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) June 2, 2020

what a terribly wasted opportunity for this country

Politicians who cross the MPD find slowdowns in their wards. After the first time I cut money from the proposed police budget, I had an uptick in calls taking forever to get a response, and MPD officers telling business owners to call their councilman about why it took so long.

— Steve Fletcher - Minneapolis Ward 3 (@MplsWard3) June 2, 2020

Good old mob style racket

this is amazing

Hey! This was me. I was glad to get time and criticize these losers, but there are other voices that deserve attention more than mine.

Including @ayoedebiri @ayobrobro @BLMLA @zachsherwin @safrazie

Also please do check out https://t.co/EH4NYTLvTX https://t.co/0QvOK3kfIz

— Jon Barr (@JonBarrTweets) June 2, 2020

(context: LAPD had a (prescheduled?) public meeting today via zoom.)

They just announced that 60,000 people are at the Houston march/rally (3x the expected turnout).

that meeting is still going on, i had to check if it was real after caek's tweet. everyone calling in is just ripping the police chief and it's amazing.

LA public meetings are always insane circuses but mostly because they attract people who like to yell racial slurs (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-city-county-meetings-expletive-curse-racial-slur-language-20190419-story.html). Making them more productive is one good thing to come out of this. Of course non of this will be reported on local tv which doesn’t report on local politics at all and right now is only interested in looters in Beverly Hills and the valley.

https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-man-shelters-protesters-home-curfew
landowners sheltering protesters from being brutalized by DC cops is now passing as a feel-good story