""trolling""- has the meaning changed?

Ah, I see, thanks, Tom.

The anti-Semitic rant appears to be customary of ILX denouements before the fall. Wasn't there also a guy who was really into so-called 'world' music and whose posts about it were mostly cool and informative until he went off the deep end, Protocols of the Elders of Zion-style?

Wite Dorke = Dwight Yorke but I can't remember any more details

you're thinking of Rudipherous, pom

You mean Rudipherious

xp

Right, thanks!

who is the burrito that defined a generation? (and with that, lol, i satisfy the troll's reason to live)

Hey, let me drunkenly animate your photos in about 25 to 60 days!

i'm not pissed or anything, trying not to be defensive, it's just weird

I actually think burrito generation might be a new troll

they claimed i was a "good poster", which is very kind for a troll, but would also imply that they'd been around long enough to make that observation.

goddamn, i felt like matlock just then

Anybody with senses can tell you’re a good poster within 5 minutes though

yeah, it's that fuckin Z S guy you gotta watch out for tho

People who walk by you while you’re busy shoveling eggs benedict into your face on the outside patio at a popular bruch place probably think “that guy is a good poster, I bet”

Neanderthal if you crosspost me one more time tonight I’m calling Rhonda on your ass

oooogh ugggh ooooooooog ugga oooga oooga

I can’t stop this feelin’
Deep inside of me
Let me animate your
Photos in a century or three

i thought generation burrito is just a regular ilxor with a new name and isn't here to troll per se? i don't get troll vibes from generation burrito.

weird then to be calling out km's username as if he just saw it for the first time

somewhat related but

Ok, we have reached a very dangerous level of bullshit when white "scientists" discredit #BlackLivesMatter protesters as #socialbots!
I demand that they publish their algorithms and data to allow an independent review of their claims!https://t.co/uv3NBZ4npp

— Michael Kreil (@MichaelKreil) June 3, 2020

(in general a lot of what gets called "bot" posting is just people using twitter in a non-extremely online techie way, or using it as a way to post/bookmark links; meanwhile the actual, confirmed russian trolls include shit like "I Am Ass")

Everyone with a BSc degree can claim to be "scientists".

And plenty who don’t, for instance me, a scientist

Musk has a BS in Physics,which makes him uniquely qualified to comment on everything

It's the fabric of the universe, mang.

I actually think burrito generation might be a new troll

nope not a troll! I've been an off-and-on ilxr since around 9/11. was del griffith before I impulsively decided to ditch that handle a few months ago. I liked Karl's paint sale fundraiser idea, and I do like me a good donation match opportunity, and I did like the paintings too, but I've got enough of those at home already so I thought I'd see if I could use my donation for something a little more unique/creative/provocative. it's not because the handle Karl Malone offends me personally, but it does have a vaguely questionable ironic lol flavor to it especially in a social justice context you've gotta agree! more the sort of thing you'd expect of a 4channer or a boogaloo boi. and no I'm not certain how the dynamic would change if you were black or I was black, cause we're not.

anyway, $100 was sent with the intent you'll match it and send it on to your chosen bail fund.

That clears up a lot! Thank you.

oh christ, del griffith, that explains yr terrible posts

oh christ, del griffith, that explains yr terrible posts

chow down on my anus you stupid idiot

so it seems like the two of you are already acquainted

xp - terrible riposte

del griffith, thank you for your donation. i will put it toward the fundraiser now. i explained my thinking on the name and the man in the other thread, so i don't know what to tell you.

well I don't know who that is cause I'm the burrito that defined a generation and not del griffith but hey right on that's cool don't worry about it! I'm glad those moneys found a home

chow down on my anus you stupid idiot

― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:22 AM bookmarkflaglink

lol yr sub-ethan burns are cuet

well this is all very awkward

RHONDA!!!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/EFxgxQ6.jpg

Rong thraed

Or is it?

Phil Collins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-Hj73ES2U

watch yourself or you're going to get a temp

i watched 2 minutes of that and there was no sexual content - thanks for trolling the trolling thread

dennis turned out to be a more boring and stupid fella than anticipated tbpfh

?

Rhonda get the fUCK in here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbg3fAE2SU

?

For whom the bell trolls?

Loose definition there: "saying a thing that stands up to no logic scrutiny or could even be a sincere belief beyond the desire to get a rise out of people you don't like"

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:12 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok we have baseline

ty for yr service nv

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:14 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean I don't hold with hard definitions in general but baseline, yeah, that's something like a baseline

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:15 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Next level of complexity is that the sincerity of the troll's statements should always be on some level plausible, like it's just possible a Swinson is so tied into her bubble that she cannot see the logical dishonesty there

― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:17 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

gonna have to unpick that one maybe

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:20 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe not the thread to go deep into that specific example but roughly "I cannot support this candidate with a number of obvious qualifications for temporary leader of the government but hey I had a word with a couple of absolutely unqualified chums and wouldn't they be much better choices?"

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:23 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Now either she *knows* why they're ludicrous suggestions or she's so deep in her own game she can't see the ludicrousness. The outside observer's uncertainty is a very troll-like situation

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:25 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Schrödinger stuff, from outside yes

but does it rely on whether or not *she* is aware of the ludicrous uncertainty in order to be trolling (as i type it out it seems obvious that it does)

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:27 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

"a thing that stands up to no logic scrutiny or could even be a sincere belief beyond the desire to get a rise out of people" depends a lot on the individual oftentimes u have two ppl who both think the other person is trolling bc neither are capable of imagining a different perspective

― Mordy, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:28 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think it does because death of the author and as Burroughs might've described it the troll inside

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:29 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Intentionality is not being taken into account this season, it's about whether the hand or arm are in an "unnatural" position IIRC.

― Tim, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:29 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

xp

yeah sure Mordy but to the extent I'm engaging with this in good faith it is very much about perspective, social context, history and the speakers' knowledge of one another, like all language really

― HOOS on first (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:31 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

you will ofc be aware that in such a designation the other variable is the observer's capacity for befuddlement

allow me to further muddy water by suggesting an advance troll technique:

the observer so puzzled by whether or not something is a troll or not that any third party onlooker (and indeed the original subject, the suspected troll themselves) might wonder whether or not the perplexed-possible-trollée is not infact a faux-trolled-troll

fuckit mordy got in there

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol tim

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think to troll one must be on at least some level intending to troll, so i disagree nv

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

we shall, possibly, have to lurk under that bridge when we come to it

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

For there to be trolling, intent is paramount. Except, of course, the most successful specimens rely on the trollee's structural inability to reliably decipher the troll's exact intentions. In other words, the best trolling may or may not be an instance of trolling at all.

Apologies for restating the obvious.

xps

― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel like an essential component of trolling is the ethos that self-amusement/-satisfaction > comity.

― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:34 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh yes and no

the intent is from the pov of the troll and therefore, while it can be unknown from outside, it can never have an actual value of unknown

― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:35 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

The heart of it is in here somewhere, maybe

We don’t need two people doing these shit revives, tbh