Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

nobody gives a shit about the legal technicalities. that video is a declaration of war

Ok, thanks for the info. I was baffled by that detail.

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His message was beautiful, i shared on my wall both to share the injustice but also that people would hear what the young man had to say

@Tuomas re that reddit link for context:

some parks in the US (Bryant Park in NYC by the Public Library with the lions for ex) are privately funded even tho they are "public spaces" which means they usually have their own funding arm and mall cops (you need specific permission from BP Conservancy to film there for ANY reason, whereas you can lumber into central park and do a news interview, for example)

So yeah, there's a peacetime world where cops could have bagged those people ANYWAY, protests or not, if the organizing group that manages the park wanted them arrested for trespassing

this is not said to justify cops doing cop things ever, and if a space is presented as "public" (ie not gated) then those spaces should be equal under the law but here we are

another example are some of the plazas that surround buildings in NYC. they are built with plazas bc of incentives that came into play following the success of the seagram building in midtown and the additional daylight that you got from having a building setback from the edge of the sidewalk. those plazas are "public" spaces but they still belong to and are maintained by the building managers and can revoke that access if you, say, protest or setup showtime or start busking. the lobby of trump tower is such a space as well, if you wanna wrap your head around all that

Thanks for the info, I've been to Bryant Park, but I had no idea it's "private". What's the history behind such places, how did something that clearly should be a public space become privately owned?

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because lol america

Capitalism

This week, I am introducing the Ending Qualified Immunity Act to eliminate qualified immunity and restore Americans’ ability to obtain relief when police officers violate their constitutionally secured rights. pic.twitter.com/PiNYP8cX8i

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) June 1, 2020

But even in lol America most parks are owned by the city/municipality, no?

yes that is true.

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Here's the GoFundMe for Charleston protestor bail:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/charleston-sc-protestor-fund?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link-tip&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet

"This is a general community fund to help any Black Lives Matter protestors in the Charleston, SC area receive bail funds should they need it. We are in the early stages so please stayed tuned for more info. This is not officially affiliated with any organization or organizer, this is created by allies wanting to help create positive change.

UPDATED 5/31: After speaking with protest organizers this campaign will now include funds for supplies such as masks, water, and safe transportation for protestors."

I'm in Columbia but have to isolate and can't get involved with the protests right now. We and Charleston were both under curfew last night, we'll see about tonight. (Columbia in recent times has had decent relations between police and the community as far as I know, but the same can't be said for Charleston, idk really what the situation there specifically is like. I also have not really lived in SC for decades before this year.)

Donated earlier. Thx!

that you need a special permit from the cops to have a demonstration even if it's a public space?

I believe this is how Bloomberg and Obama were able to ultimately smash/level the homebase of Occupy Wall Street.

as they always burned to from Day One

acab

— New New York Times (@NYT_first_said) June 1, 2020

Straight up cried watching that Charleston video

Listening to the Chicago mayor right now, she said there were 65,000 911 calls in the last 24 hours. She says that is 50,000 above the usual. 1,000 every half hour.

JUST IN: President Trump unloads on the nation's governors on a call, calls on them to step up enforcement: "You have to dominate, if you don’t dominate you’re wasting your time. They’re going to run over you, you’re going to look like a bunch of jerks. You have to dominate."

— Ed O'Keefe (@edokeefe) June 1, 2020

Cool, that'll show them.!

when a problem comes along, you must whip it

Dammit, can someone change June 2020 thread title to "You have to dominate"?

On the call, Trump references Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Milley and Attorney General Bill Barr. "We will activate Bill Barr and activate him very strongly," Trump says.

— Ed O'Keefe (@edokeefe) June 1, 2020

Tuomas: the parks/open plazas you're talking about are business improvement districts
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/sbs/neighborhoods/bids.page

this thread is making me ill

Bill Barr goes online and becomes operational!

UNLEASH THE BARR

Wonder twin Powers, activate!

Trump's tweets are just so strong, it is so inspiring I can barely contain myself. and by that I am talking about my bowels. just like Trump.

Apologies if this has already been posted but ffs, this is why nobody trusts these motherfuckers:

I am heartbroken and disgusted to see one of my family members a young black man w/his hands up peacefully protesting and an NYPD officer pulls down his mask and pepper sprays him. @NYCSpeakerCoJo @BPEricAdams @FarahNLouis @JumaaneWilliams @NewYorkStateAG @NYPDShea cc: @EOsyd pic.twitter.com/tGK5XWS0bt

— Ms. Anju J. Rupchandani (@AJRupchandani) May 31, 2020

All I'm gonna say: cops will have no one but themselves to blame for whatever comes from all this.

won't stop em from blaming everyone else

i don't want to crosspost ppl without asking but ums just posted the latest from his neighborhood on the minnesota thread and it is fucking terrifying and chillingly consistent with other reports i have seen this morning and last night.

the militarization of cops 9/11 bills are finally coming due (with many other precedents of course)

hey JonNJ, happy to repost. feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes

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Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown) at 10:44 1 Jun 20

Was up until 4 am last few nights, we have a neighborhood watch group that we formed to track all these vehicles creeping or speeding (always one or the other) though our neighborhood.

My friend's neighbor had his fence soaked in gasoline, they found boards soaked in kerosene in the alley. People have been defending the Longfellow Market, the last unburned grocery store in the neighborhood,if that goes we have no place go buy food for people without cars.

I sound like a crazy person but these vehicles are driving around all night. I've seen them. Going to St Paul yesterday a black BMW SUV shot past us on 94, no plates

THE POLICE ARE NOT DOING SHIT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS

I haven't seen any cruisers patrolling or responding to call

Maybe if they weren't engaged in military fashion shooting at peaceful protesters THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS

That's horrible, ums. Stay strong.

<3 love to you ums, fuck these ghouls, fuck the cops

Love to you, ums.

when this over, mpls is going to be angrier than it has ever been before. the reactionaries will try to hijack it for their own purposes. stay alert and safe, ums.

xxxp really Bin Laden could not in his wildest dreams have imagined the slow-burn fruits of 9/11

Americans are such fucking BABIES

be safe, ums. if you don't feel like speculating i completely understand, but what do you think the deal is with the suvs? who are they?

bin Laden clearly "won"

the more people *directly* associate police "dominance" w/ a Trump directive the hotter this is going to get

cops are punchable enough w/o imagining asshole's face on every one of them

Ironically, I don't ever remember in my life seeing so many police forces so out of control, so violently flailing around like cornered animals. Nothing about the president or police project "dominance" right now.

xps to UMS, I feel you. The cops in Phila also seem to be much more interested in intimidating/terrorizing the peaceful demonstrators than with doing a goddamn thing to protect the businesses getting ransacked. A bunch of groceries and pharmacies have been wrecked in the most vulnerable neighborhoods. Things are *relatively* untouched in my area but don't know if that will last. Of course the NG is here now so who knows. Couldn't sleep much last night what with the sirens/helicopters/revving engines/gunshots.

Trump continued, "and when you dominate, don't just dominate in a jokey way like how I joked about grabbing women by the pussy, dominate in a tangible way, like how Hillary Clinton dominated me in the 2016 election by earning 2.8 million more popular votes than me."

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I think they are alt right militia assholes personally, with accelerants in the back, but I’m just a freaked out Minnesotan reading all this from nyc

The cops pulled one of these over last night and he tried to douse and set his car on fire

I doubt it's unique to Chicago, but when it gets warm here people compulsively light off fireworks every night. Perpetual pops and explosions definitely do not enhance the mood.

Yeah, some bonehead about a block away lights off fireworks pretty much every single Friday, Saturday and Sunday night from Memorial Day to Labor Day. Last night the neighborhood group got a couple of "hey, maybe we could not do that tonight?" emails.