Tangerine Dream S/D

So, I flipped Zeit around (see upthread) if any of you weirdos wanna listen to it, here's a link: https://we.tl/t-EzEd8XRzgf

I interviewed Thorsten Quaeschning and Bianca Froese-Acquaye (Froese's widow, and TD's manager) for the upcoming issue of The Wire, about what the current incarnation is doing and how they're balancing honoring and preserving the group's legacy with being a present-day project (new album next year).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ_mtgMWkAEoJq3.jpg

Ooh, interesting.

Nice, looking forward to that! Great illustration, too.

Any mentions of a legit issue of The Keep ost? :D

Great interview! In total agreement with your comparison of a recent track to a Kompakt 12". I rather like the fact that with Schnauss and Paul Frick's involvement the group is (re)connecting with later generations of German electronica. (Tbh the current lineup is making far better music than at least several previous incarnations of the band.)

I'll reserve judgement until I've read the article, but for now I'm standing by my conviction that TD without Edgar Froese is not TD. TD is not a franchise. It was Edgar's project, his life's work. Quaeschning can do whatever project he likes but he has no moral right to call it TD, whatever Froese's widow may say.

ok, anyone here got this ?

https://www.discogs.com/Tangerine-Dream-Rubycon-Revisited/release/534105

recently got a recent podcast in mp3 form and it featured a section of this boot ..

would love to hear the full thing.

New box set coming 10/30: Pilots of Purple Twilight - The Virgin Recordings 1980-1983. Big headline: includes the music from The Keep!

TRACKLIST:

CD 1: Tangram
01 “Tangram Set 1″
02 “Tangram Set 2″

CD 2: Thief
01 “Beach Theme”
02 “Dr. Drestructo”
03 “Diamond Diary”
04 “Burning Bar”
05 “Beach Scene”
06 “Scrap Yard”
07 “Trap Feeling”
08 “Igneous”
Bonus track:
09 “Dr. Destructo (extended version)” (promo only)

CD 3: Exit
01 “Kiew Mission”
02 “Pilots Of Purple Twilight”
03 “Choronzon”
04 “Exit”
05 “Network 23″
06 “Remote Viewing”

CD 4: White Eagle
01 “Mojave Plan”
02 “Midnight In Tula”
03 “Convention Of The 24″
04 “White Eagle”
Bonus tracks:
05 “Das Mädchen auf der Treppe”
06 “Flock”
07 “Katja”
08 “Speed”
Taken from the 12-inch EP Das Mädchen auf der Treppe, released in Germany as Virgin 600 651 in May 1982. Previously unreleased on CD.
09 “Daydream”
10 Moorland”
A & B-sides of single – Released in Germany as Virgin 105 271 in May 1983.

CD 5: The Soldier soundtrack
Recorded in 1981 / 1982 at Polygon Studio and Amber Studio in West Berlin.
Final mixing at Amber Studio, West-Berlin in June 1982
01 “Main titles”
02 “Cue #1 – variation on Logos #1″
03 “Cue #2 – variation on Horizon #1″
04 “Cue #3 – The Soldier #1″
05 “Cue #4 – variation on Dolphin Dance”
06 “Cue #5 – variation on Tangent #1″
07 “Cue #6 – The Soldier #2″
08 “Cue #7 – The Soldier #3″
09 “Cue #8 – The Soldier #4″
10 “Cue #9 – The Soldier #5″
11 “Cue #10 – variation on Horizon #2″
12 “Cue #11 – The Soldier #6″
13 “Cue #12 – The Soldier #7″
14 “Cue #13 – variation on Logos #2″
15 “Cue #14 – The Soldier #8″
16 “Cue #15 – variation on Horizon #3″
17 “End Titles”

CD 6: The Dominion Theatre Concert
6th November 1982
Previously unreleased
01 “The Dominion Concert Part One”

CD 7: The Dominion Theatre Concert
6th November 1982
Previously unreleased
01 “The Dominion Concert Part Two”
02 “Midnight In Tula”
03 “White Eagle”
04 “Dominion”

CD 8: Logos Live
01 “Logos (Part 1)”
02 “Logos (Part 2)”
03 “Dominion”

CD 9: Hyperborea
01 “No Man’s Land”
02 “Hyperborea”
03 “Cinnamon Road”
04 “Sphinx Lightning”
Bonus tracks:
05 “The Dream Is Always The Same”
06 “No Future (Get Off The Babysitter)”
07 “Guido The Killer Pimp”
08 “Lana”
09 “Love On A Real Train (Risky Business)”
Taken from the soundtrack album Risky Business

CD 10: The Keep
Soundtrack to the 1983 film directed by Michael Mann
Previously unreleased
01 “Puer Natus Est Nobis” (Gloria) (Thomas Tallis, arr. Edgar Froese)
02 “Arx Allemand” (Edgar Froese)
03 “Truth And Fiction” (Edgar Froese)
04 “The Silver Seal” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
05 “Ancient Powerplant” (Edgar Froese)
06 “Supernatural Accomplice” (Edgar Froese)
07 “The Challenger’s Arrival” (Edgar Froese)
08 “Heritage Survival” (Edgar Froese / Christoph Franke / Johannes Schmoelling)
09 “Parallel Words” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
10 “Canzone” (Edgar Froese / Johannes Schmoelling)
11 “Voices From A Common Land” (Edgar Froese / Christoph Franke / Johannes Schmoelling)
12 “Wardays Sunrise” (Edgar Froese)
13 “The Night In Romania” (Edgar Froese)

Huge news!!!

This is the era of TD I listen to the most

Same

The 'Hades' box is going for a mere £51 on A**zon Germany, if anyone is interested.

not anymore it aint.

So has anyone here checked out 21st Century TD with Yamane, Schnauss and Quaeschning? I'm a fan of the classic Froese era (and a bit beyond the classic era too) but haven't heard anything since he died. Those 6 albums of Sessions look interesting. I wish I'd bought that recent copy of The Wire with the TD cover story but I can never find The Wire out in the wild around here

Also - is it worth making a separate thread for 21st Century TD?

I was planning on picking up the standalone Hyperborea CD but apparently it doesn't have the Risky Business stuff.

Maybe a licensing thing? The previous batch all had the same extra tracks as the versions included in the box.

Listened to some of this box today on Spotify. The full Dominion “concert” that Logos was pulled from is great, all lush Jupiter 8s, crispy PPG and proto-808 drums. I kind of wish there was some 5.1 stuff to be had on this but appreciate how much unreleased materials they unearthed.

Couldn't spring for the box, though I was tempted by all the live material and the fact that I already own the very lush and excellent first box, and I bet they'd look great on the shelf together. I'm still definitely considering purchasing it, especially if I get some additional stimulus money! That's what it's for, right?

I love this period and have never heard the mythical Keep soundtrack. I was initially a little put off by all the 'cues' on the tracklist. Why do I need those? And I already own all of these studio albums on CD. But Logos is one of my favorites, so the idea of the full concert - as well as other full concerts from this period - is very enticing.

I'm listening to the Logos concert on Spotify now and it's pretty good. I'm still way more of a fan of their 1970s material than anything after, but this might be something I wind up using as an editing soundtrack (I edit manuscripts all day). I use a lot of those multi-disc Klaus Schulze compilations for that.

The Dominion Concert on this set is absolutely fantastic - I've dipped in and out of the rest of the stuff here, but it's this concert that I keep coming back to.

did not expect to find this lot in a charity shop today.

Tangerine Dream - Green Desert
Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight
Tangerine Dream - Tyger
Tangerine Dream - Canyon Dreams
Tangerine Dream - Rockoon
Tangerine Dream - Goblins Club
Tangerine Dream - Turn Of The Tides
Tangerine Dream - The Dream Mixes

someone tell me which of these i should prioritise as i have no idea re this era of t'dream.

Green Desert is a 1973 recording with 80s overdubs and mix, the rest I haven't heard.

i saw that in the credits re GD.
most weird.
i only know (and love) the Virgin era.
suspect that these will never surpass those albums.
but for 49p each i had to grab them.

Underwater sunlight and canyon dreams are both good

thinking about it now, i think i may actually have US on vinyl.
ta for the pointers JNJ.

Supposedly, Rockoon was so bad it caused the Tangerine Dream fanclub to disband in disgust.

haha.

i would love that to be true.

so many questions.

- how long before they regrouped ?
- how many members ?
- did they disband after every cr*p album !?

etc etc.

Tough call, but I would maybe start with Tyger and Underwater Sunlight

i actually tried the opening track of Tyger on the drive home.
umm .. dreadful vocals.
way way worse than Cyclone which i have got used to.
i guess i need to give the album more listens/time then.

Tyger is their worst

The Jerome Froese era is really really dicey.
I kind of like:
Mars Polaris/Rocking Mars
Parts of the Dante trilogy
Views From A Red Train
Maybe a couple of others I’m forgetting.
But it would be fair to skip over his tenure entirely to when quashneng (?) became the main partner

Supposedly, Rockoon was so bad it caused the Tangerine Dream fanclub to disband in disgust.
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When I got into The Notwist circa _Shrink_, found a Geocities fanpage that was being discontinued because the German fan couldn't stomach the electronic direction. The humorless disavowal made me laugh.

Hyperborea : one of the best headphone albums ever ?
quite possibly.

Hyperborea rules

i love how the first two tracks are all spaced-out then "cinnamon road" comes in all electro-pop with that same (or similar) plunky sitar patch moroder was using around that time

I love that patch

Title track of Hyperborea is underrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIeRTgg3So

not in this house it isn't.
i have heard all the classic Virgin era releases many many times over the years, and yet, Hyperborea is the one I still come back to the most whenever I get the urge to listen to TD.

white eagle is my favorite

Exit is getting a lot of love around here at the moment. Choronzon... wow.

yeah, hyperborea, white eagle, and exit = my favourite era.

a few weeks on from the haul, and i am finding these 90s releases nowhere near as painful as i was expecting.
i guess going in with low expectations helped.
even Tyger with more dreaded vocals works for me when in the mood (i.e. hungover sundays), but Underwater Sunlight, Canyon Dreams and the Dream Remixes are definitely the ones i have enjoyed the most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1qPMPJpRnc

Shame they're only miming!
That's from the era of TV when science shows, science-fiction shows and music shows all shared a similar visual style. From the intro, you could be expecting an astronomy program, or Doctor Who.

Shame they're only miming!

Yeah, it sounds like playback, albeit a different mix to the LP.

This just popped up on my Spotify:

Probe 6-8 provides a glimpse into the forthcoming Tangerine Dream studio album (due for release in early 2022).

A sequencer driven sound - reminiscent of TD’s early 1970s work - is combined with a lush 1980s crystalline bliss.

The trio of Thorsten Quaeschning, Ulrich Schnauss and Paul Frick has composed and produced Probe 6-8 with full access to Edgar Froese’s Cubase arrangements and Otari Tape Archive (featuring recordings from 1977-2013).

The first track Raum is a nod to the band’s early live studio performances Zeit and Phaedra, utilising a distinctive heavy Moog bass (which marks the beginning and the end of this 15-minute piece).

This new set of recordings also feature two remixes - Berlin-based composer and producer Grand River (Aimée Portioli) has given ‘Raum’ her signature sound and ‘Continuum’ was remixed by Berghain resident and Leisure System co-founder Sam Barker.

decided to listen to Raum (2nd album by the "new" TD, and their 237th overall) and you know what, it's pretty good! reminds me of Ulrich Schnauss, even though Schnauss himself is no longer in the band. I think it really does capture the spirit of the group.

I've always said, 237th time is the charm! Do you feel that Froese was holding them back at all in their later days?

well I can't bring myself to shit talk Froese, but I think there was a tendency for cosmic analog synth pioneers to get lost in the possibility and efficiency of digital electronic music which led them to create a lot of shit directly from their software that sounded like it belonged in a PC game from 1995. it happened to Schulze, it happened to Jarre, it happened to Todd Rundgren, and yeah it definitely happened to Edgar

so I guess I'm not surprised that a revamped TD with no original members would actually sound quite good