Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

At once timid as a mouse and vampiric.

These charges were announced 4 days after #GeorgeFloyd was killed. In past cases, charging took 8 months for Mohamed Noor in Justine Ruszcyzk Damond shooting, 4 months for Jeronimo Yanez in Philando Castile killing, and 9 months for WashCo Deputy Brian Krook n Benjamin Evans case

— Chao Xiong (@ChaoStrib) May 29, 2020

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Second home!

local reporter here in mpls discovered that chauvin lists his legal residency as florida and has voted there in the last two elections

I confirmed Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin is also a licensed real estate agent. I obtained his application, which states he's a Florida resident, and not a Minnesota resident. Tax records show he and his wife own homes in Oakdale, Minnesota and Windermere, Florida.

— Tony Webster (@webster) May 29, 2020

So a massive tax dodger, then?

that makes him smart

sorry. i'm doing that thing where i respond by typing what i think donald trump's gut reaction would be, which makes no sense

I thought you had to live in Florida for more than 50% of the year in order to claim residency there

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xpost nah you just have to fight an alligator and last a round

xyzz you don't have to actually paste images of a man dying into this thread even if it's funny that Mahmoud Ahmedinejad tweeted them out

ffs

I thought it was funny.

He’s open to voter fraud charges now because to participate in FL elections you need to live there 6 months + 1 day per year minimum. Otherwise all the snowbirds would claim residency there to avoid property taxes in their real home states. Minnesota has HEFTY state taxes.

Plus there will be much digging to find out how he has so much property etc despite being more file than rank. I reckon he’s bent as fuck. My late uncle had lots of assets, but he added to his very good MPD lieutenant’s salary by doing extra VIP event security, advising David Chase on shows and winning a fuckton of money in a lawsuit against someone who stole his case notes to write a bestseller.

While I’m here, there’s been a lot of talk about MPD cops not living in Minneapolis and how problematic that seems. It used to be advised to cops to live in the inner suburbs and it was definitely a rule that they have an unlisted land line number.

I thought KARL was funny upthread. Let’s be clear.

authoritarian racist cop who makes money through passive real estate income, the height of MAGA chud

thought KARL was funny upthread. Let’s be clear.

― santa clause four (suzy),

"Here's the deal, folks. Karl is 100% literally, literally correct."

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'any potential intoxicants' is some incredible bullshit unless they've done a tox screen already

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

He wasn't too intoxicated to clearly tell the officer that he couldn't breathe. For five minutes. All that is is fodder for chuds.

Here comes the bullshit already.

is that the "contradictory evidence" the prosecutor's office cited the other day when explaining why they hadn't brought charges yet?

unbelievable

unbelievable

very believable. using official reports to CYA is a way of life for police and prosecutors. it's reflexive. also, medical examiners work with police officers on the regular, but using their position to establish evidence of excessive force by police is like a foreign country to them.

Asphyxia doesn't have to be the cause of death for the five minutes of kneeing his neck to have played a factor. They already said the restraining contributed, and underlying conditions or not, he wouldn't have died on a normal day without being kneeled on.

Moreso if they'd avoided those draconian tactics and he expressed medical distress, they could have gotten him attention before he became unresponsive.

This changes nothing.

Sadly, it will in the eyes of morons

I don't know about "nothing", it smells to me like someone is trying to crack open enough wiggle room for an acquittal down the road.

wait, weren't those comments from the actual charging document used to file murder charges?

#actually he died because his heart stopped; i guess we'll never know if that was due to eating too many carbs or the guy kneeling on his throat

The whole pretext for this is Floyd allegedly trying to pass a counterfeit banknote, I guess?

WHO THE FUCK HASN’T PASSED COUNTERFEIT GOODS? We all do it, all the time. I’ve been caught out and the sharp-eyed ticket changer on the TTC just declined it with a “oh, you” kind of look. I spent it at a bar later with worse lighting. Who cares?

Murder? For alleged misuse of paper currency? The mind boggles.

This Chauvin character is a nasty piece of shit.

To be clear: the woman happily but cheekily _gave the counterfeit note back to me_ and I had to fish change out of my pocket for a subway ticket instead.

There’s one law for some and one law for others.

i haven't read the charging document but since the criteria for third-degree murder (a count not every jurisdiction has, i think? kind of set up to handle negligent homicide/manslaughter cases that would have been categorized differently and possibly under multiple offenses in other jurisdictions/times) have to do with negligence and similar things i would not be surprised if the prosecutors were expected to show some reasoning about why contributory causes of death didn't remove the obligation of the officer.

xyzz you don't have to actually paste images of a man dying into this thread even if it's funny that Mahmoud Ahmedinejad tweeted them out

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Sorry all.

Couldn't possibly be the result of three(!) cops kneeling on him at once, could it?

Corporate manslaughter.

Pigs are a corporation with a revenue generation imperative. They hire the best “tech support” in their opinion to achieve their goals.

xps no, that's not what i mean, i mean the charge turns on an intent to harm causing a death that the defendant could have foreseen etc., thus would be culpably negligent or indifferent etc. for having not acted to prevent, stuff like that. opens the door to claim that the defendant could hardly have known about underlying conditions x y or z so shouldn't be held responsible for certain results, etc. so answering claims like that would be a pro forma part of making the charges legally sufficient.

Why do you need to kneel on somebody like that? Your formalist analysis is useful to unpack the prosecutory context which might play out, I’m just trying to understand why you need to kneel on someone for so long.

The victim may not have been aware of any of the health problems described in the autopsy. I hope they speak to his partner to determine that.

xp idk, pick from the usual bullshit cops say

Now I know who’s fault it is the ttc is a crumbling, underfunded nightmare... thanks, fields of salmon.

Reading around, it seems the person who took the original footage of the arrest is a 17-year-old girl. Brave AF.

i just read the statement of probable cause and i'm confused, honestly. i have purposely avoided video of this. did they not tell him why he was being arrested? did the store take the $20 then realize it then call the police, after he had left? i have done some counterfeit bill cases, not for a while, but each time i was struck by how easily one could have received a counterfeit bill as change and not know. they have to bring a secret service agent in to testify as to how he can tell it's fake and these guys are trained to notice things no regular human would be able to see.

At first the reports suggested he was being accused of trying to use a fake electronic benefits transfer card. What happened to that possibility?

i think it only narrates the earlier circumstances from the time the original officers detained him, it doesn't try to go over everything leading up to that, including making sense of the forgery accusation. and they're only in there because they were the reason for the defendant being called to the scene. since the crime is focused on chauvin's actions during the restraint there's no call for the rest being in there.

don't some (non-bank) cashiers have thingies for detecting the threads or their colors or whatever for the 'new' bills now?

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— Matt practices anti-social-ism (@3amWaffleHouse) May 29, 2020

WHO THE FUCK HASN’T PASSED COUNTERFEIT GOODS? We all do it, all the time.

I mean, I don’t but this is a fascinating peek into the lives of white people

xp yeah i understand that i'm just trying to get just to how much dumber and more senseless this situation could get if these monsters pointed a gun at someone who had literally no clue (obv even if he did it's not justified, if it needs to be said)

i may have accidentally used a canadian coin, but uh

i do not believe i have passed counterfeit goods

how would i know either way, what am i, a counterfeiter, no, i am a simple honest man who trusts legal tender to serve as a suitable medium of exchange for goods and services