Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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Xpost they didn't block his tweet, they hid it with a disclaimer as powerful as your school librarian telling you to stop putting gum under your chair

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

xp they didn't block the tweet. they did put a public service notice up ("this dude is a fucking liar", iirc), and prevented people from replying or "liking" it. they didn't block the tweet, or prevent people from retweeting it with a comment

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

Aka the Deep State is getting bolder by the minute.

pomenitul, Friday, 29 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

Watched some of Wiseman's 'Law and Order' recently and it is phenomenally disturbing and still very topical. There's a clip on youtube (and the full film on ilplex) if you wanna hunt for it.

https://www.screenslate.com/features/413

The Police Tapes (1977), which follows cops from a South Bronx precinct going about a routine that they explicitly describe as colonial, was a precursor to Cops (1989–present), which would take a much more exploitative stance and make the poor and insane into objects of entertainment. An even older precursor is Frederick Wiseman’s Law and Order (1969), in which the prolific documentarist followed the Kansas City, Missouri Police Department for six weeks.

After opening credits over slide-projected mugshots, we see a perturbed white woman on the precinct’s phone, saying she was “thrown bodily in a paddy wagon by a negro policeman” and giving us an immediate glimpse of the town’s inhabitants’ assumptions about the way the law works. She’s never been picked up before, and for her this means she’s simply been mistaken for a “criminal”—as if catching criminals weren't by definition the process of snatching people off the street and calling them criminals. We then get a cop’s perspective, who’s asked why he joined the force. His response of a half-minute’s blank-stared silence suggests that maybe he wasn’t looking for anything beyond a pay-check.

In classic liberal newsgathering style, Wiseman is neither pro- nor anti-cop. He's said that “it’s extremely important for the filmmaker to try at least to remain open to the material, otherwise you’re making propaganda.” In Law and Order, this material is brutal enough to leave no doubt about the fluid ethics of policework. An astonishing scene shows a detective strangling a prostitution suspect until she can’t breathe, all the while repeating “Stop resisting.” It illustrates at least two things: 1. That for cops, the word ‘resist’ refers not only to intentional resistance but also to the resistance caused by mere inertia. No one can fully “stop resisting” unless they cease to be a physical body in space. 2. That this detective is not at all ashamed of violence. Wiseman wondered in an interview, “if that cop didn’t think that what he was doing was okay, why on earth would he do that when it was being recorded?” The presence of the camera doesn’t guarantee objectivity, but at least it gives a truthful impression of how people want to be seen.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

The white house twitter account retweeting the ayotollah in Iran and asking twitter why they didnt censor him is chef's kiss. yeah censor him too. idgaf just get rid of incitement and hate speech pls.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

"if you awnt to ban Trump, you might as well ban Twitter from the internet"

"cool, I'm down"

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

Police are at the US Bank now. I asked him what are his orders. And he told me it’s anarchy so basically I could kick rocks. pic.twitter.com/9o2RRVGNPt

— D.A. Bullock (@BullyCreative) May 29, 2020

j., Friday, 29 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

My friend’s house is pretty close to the 3rd precinct - he just told me he lost power at 3am and the air is so chokingly plasticky he’s gonna evacuate

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

officer chauvin in custody

global tetrahedron, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

Chauvin of chauvinism fame iirc.

pomenitul, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

is the BCA like the minnesota version of the FBI?

mookieproof, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

see, mob justice works

frogbs, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

Now arrest the President

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

yes mookie, that' right

j., Friday, 29 May 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

thx!

mookieproof, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

Just imagine all the criminal police bullshit *not* caught on camera.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

There’s Only One Possible Conclusion: White America Likes Its Killer Cops

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/white-america-cops/

...Most black people know what happens when cops are given power, but we can’t get 51 percent of white people to do anything about it. We can’t get New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, who centered his first mayoral campaign on his opposition to stop-and-frisk, to take a stand against the racist actions of his police force. We can’t get the white people who are willing to gather in large crowds to enjoy a spring day to gather in a large crowd to protest at City Hall.

Why would they? White people are not ignorant and they’re not blind. They see the racial bias in policing, and they know that bias benefits them. They know they’re not going to catch a beatdown for not wearing a mask. They know they’re not going to be choked to death on the street in broad daylight. They know that having racist police officers around gives them incredible power, and power makes people feel good even if they never use it. I’ve been in rooms where I’ve heard white people congratulate themselves for not calling the cops on some black person, as if declining the option to use terrorism against a black person was some kind of proof of liberal good faith.

Black people have tried, again and again, to end the horror of police brutality against us. We march, we protest, we educate, we vote. We teach our children a special set of rules. We produce art and literature and music documenting our pain. We start organizations and movements. And yet we can’t achieve structural change in policing because a majority of white America always sets its will against us. White people in our own communities, our alleged “friends and neighbors,” consistently vote and act in ways that empower the police and ignore their brutality against us.

White people could put their police dogs on a leash. But they won’t. And more black and brown people will get mauled and killed until white people decide to do better. More black people will die like George Floyd, because most white people want to live like Amy Cooper.

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

chauvin charged with third degree murder

budo jeru, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

xp to Karl. Yes. Those are inescapable conclusions. The blindness is willed and the knowledge is buried, refused, ignored, forgotten as soon as possible, so as to reap the benefits while denying all complicity. The mythology of the police is so powerfully reinforced because it is so fragile in the face of reality.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

The origin of the family name «Chauvin» (which eventually begat “chauvinism”) most likely derives from an appellation “bald man” or “baldy.” «Chauve-souris» meaning literally “bald mouse.”

fields of salmon, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

(Chauve-souris, bald-mouse, means bat. A kind of bloodsucker.)

fields of salmon, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

decent start, now arrest the accomplices and charge them too

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

At once timid as a mouse and vampiric.

fields of salmon, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

These charges were announced 4 days after #GeorgeFloyd was killed. In past cases, charging took 8 months for Mohamed Noor in Justine Ruszcyzk Damond shooting, 4 months for Jeronimo Yanez in Philando Castile killing, and 9 months for WashCo Deputy Brian Krook n Benjamin Evans case

— Chao Xiong (@ChaoStrib) May 29, 2020

j., Friday, 29 May 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZNHHPyWsAE8Ylg?format=jpg&name=medium

silby, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Second home!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

local reporter here in mpls discovered that chauvin lists his legal residency as florida and has voted there in the last two elections

I confirmed Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin is also a licensed real estate agent. I obtained his application, which states he's a Florida resident, and not a Minnesota resident. Tax records show he and his wife own homes in Oakdale, Minnesota and Windermere, Florida.

— Tony Webster (@webster) May 29, 2020

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

So a massive tax dodger, then?

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 29 May 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

that makes him smart

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

sorry. i'm doing that thing where i respond by typing what i think donald trump's gut reaction would be, which makes no sense

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

I thought you had to live in Florida for more than 50% of the year in order to claim residency there

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

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xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

xpost nah you just have to fight an alligator and last a round

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

xyzz you don't have to actually paste images of a man dying into this thread even if it's funny that Mahmoud Ahmedinejad tweeted them out

silby, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

ffs

silby, Friday, 29 May 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

I thought it was funny.

He’s open to voter fraud charges now because to participate in FL elections you need to live there 6 months + 1 day per year minimum. Otherwise all the snowbirds would claim residency there to avoid property taxes in their real home states. Minnesota has HEFTY state taxes.

Plus there will be much digging to find out how he has so much property etc despite being more file than rank. I reckon he’s bent as fuck. My late uncle had lots of assets, but he added to his very good MPD lieutenant’s salary by doing extra VIP event security, advising David Chase on shows and winning a fuckton of money in a lawsuit against someone who stole his case notes to write a bestseller.

While I’m here, there’s been a lot of talk about MPD cops not living in Minneapolis and how problematic that seems. It used to be advised to cops to live in the inner suburbs and it was definitely a rule that they have an unlisted land line number.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

I thought KARL was funny upthread. Let’s be clear.

santa clause four (suzy), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

authoritarian racist cop who makes money through passive real estate income, the height of MAGA chud

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

thought KARL was funny upthread. Let’s be clear.

― santa clause four (suzy),

"Here's the deal, folks. Karl is 100% literally, literally correct."

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TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/yW2yvU5.jpg

'any potential intoxicants' is some incredible bullshit unless they've done a tox screen already

mookieproof, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

DJI, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

He wasn't too intoxicated to clearly tell the officer that he couldn't breathe. For five minutes. All that is is fodder for chuds.

DJI, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Here comes the bullshit already.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

is that the "contradictory evidence" the prosecutor's office cited the other day when explaining why they hadn't brought charges yet?

unbelievable

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

unbelievable

very believable. using official reports to CYA is a way of life for police and prosecutors. it's reflexive. also, medical examiners work with police officers on the regular, but using their position to establish evidence of excessive force by police is like a foreign country to them.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

Asphyxia doesn't have to be the cause of death for the five minutes of kneeing his neck to have played a factor. They already said the restraining contributed, and underlying conditions or not, he wouldn't have died on a normal day without being kneeled on.

Moreso if they'd avoided those draconian tactics and he expressed medical distress, they could have gotten him attention before he became unresponsive.

This changes nothing.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Sadly, it will in the eyes of morons

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

I don't know about "nothing", it smells to me like someone is trying to crack open enough wiggle room for an acquittal down the road.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

wait, weren't those comments from the actual charging document used to file murder charges?

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

#actually he died because his heart stopped; i guess we'll never know if that was due to eating too many carbs or the guy kneeling on his throat

mookieproof, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link


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