US Politics, May 2020 β€” I will never lie to you. You have my word on that.

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After leaving office Trump should launch a Twitter alternative that is fair to him, and boost OANN or whatever news outlet he feels is fair to him, and all his disciples can confine themselves to those channels and leave the rest of us in peace.

brb, gonna see if I can register TweetRump.com and OANalNews.com

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

last 4 approval polls that have come in have been sharply swung in the "disapprove" direction, including Rasmussen....

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

he seems to teeter between 44% - 46% approval the last few weeks, like he's ping-ponging based on the news cycle

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

This is pretty thoroughly depressing.

DJI, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

he seems to teeter between 44% - 46% approval the last few weeks, like he's ping-ponging based on the news cycle


There’s a 3% uncertainty in these polls. You’re imagining the ping-ponging.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

I'm not talking about per poll, I'm saying his AVERAGE teeters between teh two.

i know how fucking polls work

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

I look at the weighted poll averages every few days, and every time I think it's FINALLY going in the right direction, I end up disappointed.

There are fluctuations, but the overall pattern has been one of stagnation: locked-in tribal trench warfare.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

xpost

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

exactly

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I'm not talking about per poll, I'm saying his AVERAGE teeters between teh two.

i know how fucking polls work


Ay caramba. The random uncertainty on an average is 3%/sqrt(number of polls in the average) which is about 1%. But more important, you can explain a cycling average by the inclusion/exclusion of recent polls from pollsters with systematic differences, eg Rasmussen.

Honestly though it doesn’t matter. If you think modern polling is capable of measuring a 2% change, and there is in reality a 2% change due to β€œthe news cycle” then good luck to you.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

Lol at the red box being significantly different to the rest of that chart.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Have you considered day trading/working for the people who make the IHME model?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

This is pretty thoroughly depressing.

― DJI, Thursday, May 28, 2020 1:32 PM (

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Ugh I couldn't get all the way through that. Weird that the word "abortion" only appears once.

DJI, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Need to run a cubic-fit on those approval numbers IMHO

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

I read a goodly portion of that Medium article by the Art of the Deal ghostwriter that Karl linked to, then I started skimming, and then I quit reading. Because reportage of Trump's words and actions have super-saturated the media for five years now and the only people who haven't decided Trump is a lying, cheating, conscienceless sack of shit are those who can rationalize away his transparent awfulness by using industrial strength fact-erasure techniques.

This puts such a strain on the rationalizing facilities of some of the weaker-minded that the results amount to self-hypnotism. Watching highly suggestible contingent who believe in QAnon is like watching a gaggle of your neighbors up on a stage, scratching, strutting and cackling, because a hypnotist told them they were chickens. It is sad.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

you mean Sad!

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

his followers are bots, no one clicks links on twitter, or bit of both

Fascinating.

Hour ago, POTUS tweeted @dallasnews story.

Already has 10k RTs and 29k likes. Countless replies.

And yet nary a blip in our visits. Is only the #3 story in realtime traffic.

Am I to believe that these news-hungry followers get all they need from hedline & Tweet? pic.twitter.com/kKHLEg0Dbv

— Mike Orren (@mikeorren) May 28, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Am I to believe that these news-hungry followers get all they need from hedline & Tweet?

yes

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

yep, pretty easy to believe
also, bots

Nhex, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

"Why in God's name did Democrats even consider giving President Donald Trump β€” the man they recently impeached for abuse of power β€” more unaccountable surveillance powers?" https://t.co/I4406GtMei

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) May 28, 2020

https://theweek.com/articles/916596/trump-budding-autocrat-shouldnt-democrats-limit-surveillance-powers

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

short answer: bcz president

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

Schiff doesn't seem to actually believe his case against Trump. There is no possible justification for granting a corrupt, election-cheating president β€” one who appointed a dishonest stooge as the nation's chief law enforcement officer β€” the power to root through anyone's browser history without a warrant. Indeed, all the enormous powers of the surveillance state (which accomplish little or nothing of value) are exceptionally dangerous in the hands of Trump, and Democrats should be working frantically to scale them back. So far it appears we have gotten lucky in that Trump doesn't appear to grasp what these powers are for or how he might exploit them fully, but that situation is not guaranteed to hold.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

twitter doesn't deliver traffic, i think everybody knows that by now!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

right but you'd think if 80m people see a link, at least a few hundred might click it accidentally. his followers have to be like 98% bots for a CTR like that.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

surely these bots are capable of generating clicks as well as RTs

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

but why would they if they're programmed solely to amplify trump's tweets?

dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

This is in the text of Trump's executive order targeting social media companies pic.twitter.com/2gUxvrMapn

— Charlie Savage (@charlie_savage) May 28, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

I've read more coherent and compelling YouTube comments

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

what's funny is the only "fact-checking" tags I've seen on FB is for liberal memes/news.

granted, none of it was improperly tagged (it was legit "fake news"), but

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

amusing that Trump doesn't seem to know or care about the pejorative connotation of "bull in a China shop", which is used to describe him in his latest ad. I get the "hilarious" pun they're attempting in the copy but come on

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

lol

Moments after Tucker Carlson delivers a rant straight from The Daily Stormer about how black protesters are the real racists and that Minnesota is purposely letting race riots happen, progressive icon Glenn Greenwald happily shows up for his regular appearance on the show. pic.twitter.com/6EH46feZxK

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) May 29, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link

oh look its lord haw haw

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 29 May 2020 06:58 (three years ago) link

A protestor (at an overwhelmingly peaceful protest) in downtown Louisville has made off with the hand of the King Louis XVI statue pic.twitter.com/vnkq1xWvgQ

— Eric Crawford (@ericcrawford) May 29, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link

what's the background on that cnn crew getting arrested in minnesota?

koogs, Friday, 29 May 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

(there used to be a handy mon-fri 30 minute uk / us news roundup on uk tv but it's been replaced by bob ross during the lockdown)

koogs, Friday, 29 May 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

Oscar Jimenez?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

They arrested a journalist covering the George Floyd protests, while the officer who killed him still walks free. pic.twitter.com/BmJTMIioxN

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) May 29, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

grammar, dammit.

Nhex, Friday, 29 May 2020 12:21 (three years ago) link

that is fucking insane

treeship., Friday, 29 May 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

live on national television

treeship., Friday, 29 May 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

kill the messenger

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

i'm very glad that it happened, tbh, so sheltered people can see what police are like! even one of the cnn anchors in the clip seemed very surprised that the police were arresting them despite the correspondent being totally innocent, calm, and politely informing the police about what had happened, the context, and asking what they should do to make it easier for them. the cops just completely ignored them.

and of course, that's the very best case situation. they were taken into custody, everyone noticed, and the governor apologized a few hours later. if only that was the case for everyone else who gets completely fucked by the police

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

the clip i saw looked like there were state police tight on at least 3 sides, so where could they've gone?

didn't know about the cause of this either. that phone video is basically a snuff movie, no wonder people are protesting.

koogs, Friday, 29 May 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't ordinarily share this asshole's finger-dumps, but this one reads like he sent in the National Guard to fight the police.

The National Guard has arrived on the scene. They are in Minneapolis and fully prepared. George Floyd will not have died in vain. Respect his memory!!!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 29, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

trump acting like he's only concerned about the memory of Floyd is among his sickest pantomimes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 May 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

such compassion. if citizens won't stop protesting the use of state-violence to murder george floyd, he will utilize his resources of state-violence to silence the citizens. in honor of george floyd.

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

this reminds me of the time i burned down a forest preserve because of those treehugging protesters who were dishonoring the memory of john muir

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 May 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

That the president of the United States last night retweeted a guy suggesting "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat" and it's not leading the news this morning anywhere, isn't on the front page of any major news website, tells you how broken the media coverage of Trump is.

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) May 28, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link


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