love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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cummings has powerful gollum energy

Probably what kept him alive when he was stricken with the rona.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link

That video of Hancock laughing is going to haunt him.

gyac, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

and me

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

Some information on the free online retraining stuff the government is partnering on:

https://www.techworld.com/careers/case-for-universal-action-on-digital-re-skilling-now-3789193/

It doesn't seem to have made much of a splash with Cummings dominating the agenda.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

idk, hundreds or thousands of courses for free isn't a bad thing but seems like a drop in the ocean of what's required.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

yeah i just like remembering 150 years ago when we could all laugh at skills wallets and go to the pub

any courses on how to make your own poteen/moonshine still and the old culinary art of squirrel roasting, got to prepare for the future.

calzino, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

With the appropriate caveats, there's some interesting stuff here:

https://uklearns.pearson.com/courses.html?#stq=&stp=1

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

boxedjoy's point about service workers not being able to have their phone on them is a good one and I'll add that staff in schools are almost universally prohibited from having phones on them for safeguarding reasons. Probably many other workplaces practices that are preventative of this being used in many ways that the government has ignorantly overlooked in their quest to solve this with technical! gimmicks! solutions! apps! cheap! innovations!

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

i think there's a real problem with how the terminology 'contact tracing' already has all these contemporary resonances that seem to link it in the imagination to smartphones (contacts) and the kind of high militaristic high tech stuff you see in bond films ('tracing') immediately puts in my head sort of gulf-war star wars images. In fact contact tracing is a labour-intensive activity that needs to draw on fairly mundane knowledge (local communities, lifestyles, connections) and would be better overseen by community nurses than mobile phone company operators.

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

i'm suspect that the problems with the contact tracing scheme are more about inherent lack of understanding of issues affecting health (exacerbated by gov policy) than the fact that its being rushed out to cover cummings. it would have been a shitshow anyway.

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

*I* suspect (i'm sure there's more typos than that as i can't write for shit but anyway)

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Presumably it won't work on the Tube either?

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

The alternative to a technical solution basically relies on you being able to tell contact tracers who you've been vaguely close to in the last week, or whatever, which works relatively well when you've been social distancing and know who you have seen, it doesn't really work as well if you caught it in TK Maxx or on the train to work.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

yea i'd suggest not opening tk maxx or sending people to work on the train yet too

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

i think this is a false dichotomy SV as the technical solution *will not work* for those things either.

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

for a list of reasons that people here and elsewhere have noted (my one addition is, my phone decides 50% of the time to not let me answer when someone rings and if its that unreliable for its primary function....)

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link

No, absolutely - it’s a fudge between the intensive community-led work that should have started weeks ago and the invasive China / Korea model.

ShariVari, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

'the invasive china/korea model'

i must say, from korea it does not feel like these are the same thing

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

i can sit in my flat and see two dozen bluetooth devices. if one of these is an 'infected' phone, will i be quarantined for 2 weeks despite living in a different flat / floor / building?

koogs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

what kind of hellish panoptical rear window remake are you describing

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

When people tell you what they are etc

This is incredibly disturbing footage. Sir Humphry Wakefield stands in his crypt, sipping red wine and discussing genetics.

(By the way, his son-in-law Dominic Cummings has written lots about the “heritability” of intelligence and the future of eugenics.)pic.twitter.com/UR13xOLIsN

— Sam Knights (@samjknights) May 28, 2020

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

"Very few first-generation geniuses" says Very Clever Product of Inherited Wealth

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

That video of Hancock laughing is going to haunt him.

― gyac, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:12 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but you know how Twitter always knows what you're searching for after you type half a character based on your bubble, your location and what's trending? I typed Matt Hancoc and it still didn't know despite there being thousands of tweets today about him laughing. There are also no tweet suggestions for searching on Hancock+laughing.

Maybe it's like Cummings at the weekend where he's blessed with a porn element to his surname.

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

Searching Matt Hancoc gives me "results for Matt Hancock" so they might have fixed it.

Starmer has spoken following the police thing, is taking a pop at Johnson for being "too weak"

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

377 deaths yesterday

As of 9am 28 May, there have been 3,918,079 tests, with 119,587 tests on 27 May.

269,127 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 27 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus, across all settings, 37,837 have sadly died. pic.twitter.com/zj0HjOtMDG

— Department of Health and Social Care (@DHSCgovuk) May 28, 2020

gyac, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

i have questions

koogs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Johnson shutting down any questions about Cummings.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

UNAVAILABLE is a fun thing to see on an official government report on critically important information

Laura K and Pesto and left sitting like a pair of dummies.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Whitty and Valance somehow managed to make Johnson look good there.

stet, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

Nearly 400 deaths, just incredible.

Assuming the opening of schools has been quietly dropped?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

lol don't be daft

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

it's not their families

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

Searching Matt Hancoc gives me "results for Matt Hancock" so they might have fixed it.

Sorry I was meaning predictive searches that pop up in the app when you begin searching and the suggested tweets that appear below. For example if I start search with 'te' I got loads of test, track, trace type suggestions.
If I type 'laughing hanco' I get nothing. If I complete the text and hit return I see multiple tweets per minute with 'laughing' and 'Hancock' in them.
It seems odd it can't work out what I'm looking for till I really look when it normally intrusively suggests all sorts of current stuff.

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

#deathsecretary is trending so I suppose I'm being picky

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

Mind ay when that lol davey cameron fucked a pig story broke, and pretty much the whole anglophone internet was talking about it, but in never showed up on any trending topics or searches tab

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

Assuming the opening of schools has been quietly dropped?

You're kidding, right? The cunt was almost punching the air and shouting, "Raus! Raus!"

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

lol don't be daft

― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

it's not their families

― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink

There hasn't been much about it

There was meant to be a consultation to report on Thurs..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

Obviously Johnson just says the first thing that comes into his head, of course, especially if he's trying to get out of a tight spot.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

once Boris has spoken so mote it be, really can't see anything short of a mad spike or a mass strike between now and next Monday halting this.

i suspect it's mostly a marker for the gov, it'll be interesting to see what actual attendance is like if we get figures

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

I thought the schools thing was being left up to councils? With most of them staying closed for now?

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

I'd say it's the opposite - most of them are opening - for R, Y1 and Y6 - either next week or the week after

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Last I heard 1500 schools are refusing to open. Don’t know how many there are in total but that sounds like a minority to me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

they'll pay for that come ofsted

plax (ico), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZKcSB4VAAMrvrB?format=jpg&name=large

angry signwriter of Huddersfield otm. I think the column of N.G.s next to MP's names means Not Good which is quite correct!

calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 07:08 (three years ago) link

david shrigley's fallen off

||||||||, Friday, 29 May 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link

Have we talked about this?

EXCLUSIVE: ITV News has obtained evidence that it was *always* the plan to discharge Covid-19 patients into care homes.

1,800 beds were block booked in care homes by the NHS and councils for that exact purpose.

...And they’re still being discharged. https://t.co/hM8UZWDKoX

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) May 28, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link


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