US Politics, May 2020 — I will never lie to you. You have my word on that.

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Two weeks ago tomorrow, reactionary Republicans on the Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down the stay-at-home order and people started flocking to bars, restaurants, and spots. A full COVID incubation period later, today Wisconsin set new records for new reported cases and deaths. pic.twitter.com/g7cNGWpQN2

— Simon Balto is keeping his ass at home (@SimonBalto) May 28, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

oops

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

well now there's TWO tweets for Silby to not read

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

so THERE.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 May 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link

trumpco, where if you document every atrocity, you die from exhaustion before getting him or anyone in the dock.

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

i went out trying to find more info on deaths/cases/tests post the opening, and it's all both sides claiming victory, such as
https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2020/05/the-two-weeks-that-didnt-kill-wisconsin/

"the free market voice for wisconsin"

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

How the hell could either side claim victory? It takes 17 or more days to die from it. Two weeks of data would barely capture everyone who got infected during this timeframe, esp those who became newly exposed at the end of the two week reopen period.

There's no way the "deaths due to reopening" data is remotely complete unless people think that those that die of COVID-19 simply drop dead the moment they catch it.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

my post was really quickndirty, should have been more like "i'm seeing claims in both directions." agree that the only way to show the effect of opening there is gonna be with a little more time and validated #s and informed eval. (i regret invoking the term both sides here btw)

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

i knew what you meant, no worries :)

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

Executive Order Re: Social Media TODAY!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

let him enforce it

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

I hereby order Social Media to stop

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

trump otm shut it all down

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

yeah my idea of regulation on social media is clearly different than his. surprise.

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

imo nuke technology so that the internet no longer works

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

I'll miss you all, but it's the only way to be sure

Brad C., Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

https://medium.com/@tony_schwartz/the-psychopath-in-chief-aa10ab2165d9

"CEO, The Energy Project. Author. The Art of the Deal ghostwriter now speaking out. Passionate about transforming the way the world works. Craves depth"

nothing new, and yet, still pretty good. if a friend emerged from a cave for the first time since 2014 and wanted a quick summary of wtf is going on with the trump and the world, it would be a good intro

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

so that's a whole Medium post just saying "GO BACK TO YR CAVE"

dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

so this executive order, isn't this just more likely to get Twitter to ban people for posting mis-info rather than just fact-checking them?

maybe we'll get Trump ban!

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

that's assuming the twitter dudes have spines/aren't generally fine with the trump project overall

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

lol yes I should specify that in my mind the percent chance rose from 0.0000000000003% to 0.014%

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

All over the World the CoronaVirus, a very bad “gift” from China, marches on. Not good!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 28, 2020

The President's take on the virus that's killed 100,000 Americans and counting: Not good!!

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

Pennsylvania House Democrats are in an uproar after finding out that state Rep. Andrew Lewis (R) only told the Republican caucus about his positive COVID-19 diagnosis.

No members of Republican leadership filled them in either.

Lewis announced on Wednesday that he had made a full recovery from a mild case of the novel coronavirus.

“I immediately began self-isolation protocol and contacted the House of Representatives, and our caucus Human Resources department,” he said in a Facebook post. “My last day in the Capitol was Thursday, May 14.”

He said that every staffer and lawmaker who had possibly been exposed was informed and told to self-isolate for two weeks.

Democrats say that was not the case.

“That Democrats who had contact with him were not notified is not just a political stunt – this is beyond the fkn pale!” wrote Rep. Summer Lee (D) on Twitter. She said that some of Lewis’ Republican colleagues refused to wear masks on the floor for the week between when the GOP caucus found out and the Democrats did.

“From day one we had Republican colleagues unapologetically trivializing and politicizing this pandemic,” she added. “They have shown a callous disregard for the lives of people in my community.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pennsylvania-house-democrats-andrew-lewis-keeping-covid-diagnosis-a-secret

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

After leaving office Trump should launch a Twitter alternative that is fair to him, and boost OANN or whatever news outlet he feels is fair to him, and all his disciples can confine themselves to those channels and leave the rest of us in peace.

brb, gonna see if I can register TweetRump.com and OANalNews.com

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

last 4 approval polls that have come in have been sharply swung in the "disapprove" direction, including Rasmussen....

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

he seems to teeter between 44% - 46% approval the last few weeks, like he's ping-ponging based on the news cycle

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

This is pretty thoroughly depressing.

DJI, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

he seems to teeter between 44% - 46% approval the last few weeks, like he's ping-ponging based on the news cycle


There’s a 3% uncertainty in these polls. You’re imagining the ping-ponging.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

I'm not talking about per poll, I'm saying his AVERAGE teeters between teh two.

i know how fucking polls work

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

I look at the weighted poll averages every few days, and every time I think it's FINALLY going in the right direction, I end up disappointed.

There are fluctuations, but the overall pattern has been one of stagnation: locked-in tribal trench warfare.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

xpost

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

exactly

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I'm not talking about per poll, I'm saying his AVERAGE teeters between teh two.

i know how fucking polls work


Ay caramba. The random uncertainty on an average is 3%/sqrt(number of polls in the average) which is about 1%. But more important, you can explain a cycling average by the inclusion/exclusion of recent polls from pollsters with systematic differences, eg Rasmussen.

Honestly though it doesn’t matter. If you think modern polling is capable of measuring a 2% change, and there is in reality a 2% change due to “the news cycle” then good luck to you.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

Lol at the red box being significantly different to the rest of that chart.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Have you considered day trading/working for the people who make the IHME model?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

This is pretty thoroughly depressing.

― DJI, Thursday, May 28, 2020 1:32 PM (

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Ugh I couldn't get all the way through that. Weird that the word "abortion" only appears once.

DJI, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Need to run a cubic-fit on those approval numbers IMHO

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

I read a goodly portion of that Medium article by the Art of the Deal ghostwriter that Karl linked to, then I started skimming, and then I quit reading. Because reportage of Trump's words and actions have super-saturated the media for five years now and the only people who haven't decided Trump is a lying, cheating, conscienceless sack of shit are those who can rationalize away his transparent awfulness by using industrial strength fact-erasure techniques.

This puts such a strain on the rationalizing facilities of some of the weaker-minded that the results amount to self-hypnotism. Watching highly suggestible contingent who believe in QAnon is like watching a gaggle of your neighbors up on a stage, scratching, strutting and cackling, because a hypnotist told them they were chickens. It is sad.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

you mean Sad!

I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

his followers are bots, no one clicks links on twitter, or bit of both

Fascinating.

Hour ago, POTUS tweeted @dallasnews story.

Already has 10k RTs and 29k likes. Countless replies.

And yet nary a blip in our visits. Is only the #3 story in realtime traffic.

Am I to believe that these news-hungry followers get all they need from hedline & Tweet? pic.twitter.com/kKHLEg0Dbv

— Mike Orren (@mikeorren) May 28, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Am I to believe that these news-hungry followers get all they need from hedline & Tweet?

yes

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

yep, pretty easy to believe
also, bots

Nhex, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

"Why in God's name did Democrats even consider giving President Donald Trump — the man they recently impeached for abuse of power — more unaccountable surveillance powers?" https://t.co/I4406GtMei

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) May 28, 2020

https://theweek.com/articles/916596/trump-budding-autocrat-shouldnt-democrats-limit-surveillance-powers

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

short answer: bcz president

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

Schiff doesn't seem to actually believe his case against Trump. There is no possible justification for granting a corrupt, election-cheating president — one who appointed a dishonest stooge as the nation's chief law enforcement officer — the power to root through anyone's browser history without a warrant. Indeed, all the enormous powers of the surveillance state (which accomplish little or nothing of value) are exceptionally dangerous in the hands of Trump, and Democrats should be working frantically to scale them back. So far it appears we have gotten lucky in that Trump doesn't appear to grasp what these powers are for or how he might exploit them fully, but that situation is not guaranteed to hold.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

twitter doesn't deliver traffic, i think everybody knows that by now!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

right but you'd think if 80m people see a link, at least a few hundred might click it accidentally. his followers have to be like 98% bots for a CTR like that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

surely these bots are capable of generating clicks as well as RTs

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link


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