Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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on balance, probably a dud

||||||||, Thursday, 28 May 2020 09:17 (three years ago) link

This executive order being issued against Twitter and Facebook today is quite a blindingly shiny infrastructure distraction (and in record time, it feels like).

http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/politics/trump-twitter-social-media-executive-order/index.html

If I'm reading that right, it will allow lawsuits to go forward a lot easier.

But the order could quickly find itself in a thicket of legal and constitutional questions as the White House tests the boundaries of its authority.

What barriers slow down or stop executive orders?

clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Lawsuits, injunctions against implementation/enforcement while the whole mess plays out in court.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link

wow took this fucker weeks to react to a pandemic in his own country but a twitter factcheck brings out the EO in 2 days

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

This looks like a mistake, he has the balance on social media exactly in his favour right now, special rules for himself, but all unwritten so with plausible deniability. Facebook and Twitter got him into power, if Zuckerberg and Dorsey wanted to flex right now they could demonstrate this.

OTOH I'd like to see Trump wriggle his way out of this sticky situation, etc.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

(xposts) So nothing happens then if he loses in November. Good--because you know ILX is next on his list.

clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

banning twitter might be the first he does that I like

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

Wouldn't this exec order create more twitter censorship? They would be held accountable when Trump says libelous things.

wasdnous (abanana), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

You figure at some point his nose has to stop growing back after he petulantly spites his face.

Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

Update on the nose/face showdown:

The president's clash with tech companies comes at a delicate moment. Unlike most American firms, these companies — which are used to working remotely and do not rely on physical locations for sales — have performed strongly throughout the pandemic and have helped to drive the stock market recovery.

Which is pretty much his be-all and end-all, no?

http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html

clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

I'm not on Twitter, so I can't check beyond his first few posts--did they at least leave up those disclaimers from yesterday, or are those already gone?

clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

i don't really understand what he could do to twitter with an EO. if he holds the platforms responsible for what others publish on them -- as if they were "publications" -- then that would be the end of social media. the platforms would need to vet everything that is published on them, not just things that have been flagged.

treeship., Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

Twitter should just ban him for 24 hours then reset his followers to 0.

Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

It'll end up meaningless, this is just him flailing in his temper tantrum because, for the first time, he's actually seeing tangible pushback on the shit he spews.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

Temper, and whipping up a story that's not the pandemic or George Floyd.

clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

I think the latter is just a happy bonus for the GOP, I genuinely don't think Trump himself is thinking even that deeply beyond being absolutely furious that he's told he can't say whatever he wants.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Headline of the day. pic.twitter.com/AaWmQoZvFa

— Nick de Semlyen (@NickdeSemlyen) May 28, 2020

groovypanda, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

I think the latter is just a happy bonus for the GOP

Had a similar thought after I posted...Ultimately, I don't know if anything will matter in the election--the pandemic, deaths, the economy, race, feuds--except how many of you (Americans who want Trump out) vote.

clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

Here's an even better Zuck headline:

https://chaser.com.au/world/social-media-should-not-fact-check-posts-says-child-molester-mark-zuckerberg/

“Social media should not fact check posts” says child molester Mark Zuckerberg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

good lord this man is a piece of shit

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 29 May 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link

"When the looting starts, the shooting starts" is originally a phrase of Miami police chief Walter Headley.

Headley refused to return from vacation when violent protests broke out at the RNC in 1968. "They know what to do...Wen the looting starts, the shooting starts." https://t.co/NpehNOCLNx

— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) May 29, 2020

j., Friday, 29 May 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link

We have placed a public interest notice on this Tweet from @realdonaldtrump. https://t.co/6RHX56G2zt

— Twitter Comms (@TwitterComms) May 29, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link

imagine what they might have noticed if they'd ever looked at his account before

massage angry pixels (sic), Friday, 29 May 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link

This MF said.. “When the looting starts, the shooting starts...” Unbelievable.

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) May 29, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link

Gop Killer

nashwan, Friday, 29 May 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

I don't know how he managed to get to the FINALLEVEL still with the incredulity that the US is actively a murderous police state if you are black and the pres is a bit of a racist scoundrel.

calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

It's Ice T, I'm guessing he is already aware?

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 29 May 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link

marketing genius declares “maga night,” inspires the most chaotic night of domestic unrest in years

voodoo chili, Sunday, 31 May 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

I get emails from both the Biden and Trump campaigns (under a pseudonym, of course). I got SIX fundraising emails overnight from the Trump team. They do not appear to be operating from a position of confidence.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 May 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link

maga night = cities on fire is just good branding lol

voodoo chili, Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

make america glow again

dip to dup (rob), Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

I got SIX fundraising emails overnight from the Trump team.

Not that this should come as a surprise, but I can't think of a clearer indication of what an opportunity they view all this as.

clemenza, Monday, 1 June 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

lol the secret service rushed trump to the bunker under the white house on friday night

mookieproof, Monday, 1 June 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

what's his codename right now, birdsnest or whatever

j., Monday, 1 June 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

"taint"

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 1 June 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

They're saying on the news Trump was taken into a bunker because he had so much nervous diarrhea he clogged the entire White House plumbing and all the turds were flooding everywhere like the blood elevator in The Shining and then he clogged the bunker toilet too.

— 👶 luke oneil 🧠 (@lukeoneil47) June 1, 2020

j., Monday, 1 June 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

Seems Legit.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 June 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

laying low and tweeting through it. that's leadership

mookieproof, Monday, 1 June 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

the phrase "wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight" comes to mind

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 June 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

Zuck called Trump to ask him to change his post:

https://www.axios.com/trump-protests-riots-4ab7f1e1-1498-433b-8b80-cedf3cc1ae96.html

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

am i the only person who thinks "ominous weapons" is weirdly eloquent for trump. made my brain jump straight to the use of DIME and white phosphorous in gaza in 2009

plax (ico), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

Trump clearly wants to be Pinochet, whether he recalls who he is or not

(im sure they golfed together at some point)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

Trump asks Melania to smile during today's photo op. pic.twitter.com/B59YeDHKRM

— The Recount (@therecount) June 2, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

Hey, not bad! Better than I could do.

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

I'm imagining the hard diamond glitter of her eyes behind those shades

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

fuck both of them

she could divorce him at any moment and everyone in the world would not only understand but would commend her for doing the right thing

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

she's as culpable as anyone

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

Well, I don't know about that, but she's got a lot to answer for, sure. She doesn't seem like a glitter mind person though. I've got her pegged as more of a rapidly-transitioning scenes of mutilated flesh mind person. I just can't tell if that barely concealed rage is directed at him or at those who would destroy property. She's a tough nut to crack.

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

People are saying she's becoming increasingly isolated these last few days...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link


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