love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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The contract tracing thing seems dead in the water.

yeah, can't say i'm surprised that we appear to be on the verge of fucking up the one thing that might help us get some control over the spread of the disease but this doesn't look good

a denim head and an aficionado of Japanese craftsmanship (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

so not "world-beating" then, there's a surprise it's not like boris to talk in excitable terms about something he has no chance of delivering

calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

Has anyone implemented contact tracing effectively without making it a social necessity?

ShariVari, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

see that south korea are thinking about introducing some tightening measures again - and that’s with quite a sophisticated track and trace program in place

||||||||, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

xps so what you're saying Tom D is that Johnson is well and truly Churchillian

Neil S, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

I heard on a report earlier the S Korea outbreak was traced to a nightclub but it also coincides with them re-opening schools as well

calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

Kerala's contact tracing seems to be manual and therefore doesn't rely on anyone having an app or owt

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

S. Korea's doesn't use an app either aiui.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

still uses GPS though, and south korea has the highest % of smart phone usage in the world

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

No 10 can live with private anger. The danger is in public calls for DC to resign. Some MPs waiting too to see how PM does at liaison cttee. But MPs I’ve spoken to today think it will take external event (development in police probe, new revelation) now to force PM’s hand 4/

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) May 27, 2020

stet, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

I find I'm really hoping he brings it upon himself in questions later

stet, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/marcusbarnett_/status/1265648942794133505 seems pretty public

gyac, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

Deleted, was this
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZB83kYX0AA0hMd?format=jpg&name=large

gyac, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

was gonna say 'seems reasonable' until i spotted branson and cummings hanging in effigy

now i'm gonna say 'seems very reasonable'

a denim head and an aficionado of Japanese craftsmanship (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

reassuring

No 10 says it cannot explain why the daily announcement of the number of people being tested for coronavirus has been mysteriously dropped.

Boris Johnson's spokesman said it was "not something I have noticed" - despite the department of health and social care failing to provide the statistic for four days.

It comes after widespread criticism that the number of people tested is typically tens of thousands fewer than the "capacity" available and way below the 100,000 daily benchmark.

However, the spokesman insisted the government was on track to hit the prime minister's promise of a testing capacity of 200,000 by this weekend - despite the latest figure being only 154,120.

french flaps, sparkly letters, all the bells and whistles (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

Johnson is having a horrible, horrible time, live on BBC One. (But not horrible enough to force him to sack Cummings)

stet, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

Never mind tests, no one pays much mind to the death rate anymore. Ireland recorded zero deaths the other day, no desire or will to get to that.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

Lol craven

BBC statement on last night's Newsnight pic.twitter.com/JFm4Nt5YMv

— BBC News Press Team (@BBCNewsPR) May 27, 2020

gyac, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

Boris Johnson says contact tracing should only force a very small number of people into quarantine

The best estimates suggest that if there are 10,000 fresh cases a day, then as many as 390,000 new people would be quarantined each day pic.twitter.com/12KlB0kMal

— Rowland Manthorpe (@rowlsmanthorpe) May 27, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

aw diddums, were they being beastly to cockroach cummings? xp

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

we are committed to getting the infection numbers down and beating this virus

unless it’s too hard

french flaps, sparkly letters, all the bells and whistles (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

Only found the number of deaths today through this tweet.

yesterday we had 134 new covid deaths and today we have 412. good job you can go buy a car or an open air pastry in person next week eh

— worm from home (@SzMarsupial) May 27, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

johnson looks terrible!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Lol fucking head on him

gyac, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

but yes, i've noticed as well that the ubiquitous charts with UK cases and deaths plotted as a line graph, which used to lead EVERY news bulletin, are now awol, which is strange, because the trend is vaguely, slightly downward, which surely is news worth vaguely, lightly celebrating?

xposts

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Having lectured opposition members of liaison committee asking questions about Cummings about playing politics, Johnson with the connivance of committee chairman, Bernard Jenkin, and a succession of Tory MPs has turned it into a party political broadcast.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

412? jesus is that just some weekend catching up with the harvest of death or is this just one of greatest lockdowns in the West!

calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

i've just heard the last 10 minutes or so and if this is a party political broadcast i hope the thick lazy cunt makes a lot more of them

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

Jenkin crammed some Labour MPs in it at the end.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

... and at the start.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

Obv. Johnson himself is hopeless.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

he quite literally doesn't know what he's doing

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

State of him.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Does this disgusting bastard look ill and haggard as a result of the virus?

Genuine question, asked in hope.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

They must, must know what everyone is thinking everytime this end says "isolate immediately"

stet, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

durham’s gonna be packed

french flaps, sparkly letters, all the bells and whistles (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Laura K just described Johnson as “bouncing through” the liaison committee session lol

gyac, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

xps to pinefox his cough sounds terrible

gyac, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

“flopping over”

french flaps, sparkly letters, all the bells and whistles (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

That 412 needs a bit of unpacking - is that hospital deaths alone? There did appear to be a precipitous drop in the daily death rate over the past couple of days so I guess this is the data catching up?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

Tugendhat and Ellwood are making a lot of noise about not having an opportunity to grill Johnson over Huawei at the Commons Liaison Committee meeting. The former seems to see positioning himself as Hammer of the CCP as a path to leadership, or at least as the leading critic of the PM within the party.

It may require a corset to fit in the tubes but being back in a boat would be great. https://t.co/jZk9lB3ISN

— Tom Tugendhat (@TomTugendhat) May 27, 2020

I'd be interested to know what the Atlanticist wing of the Tories think the upside of joining in a trade war with China is, other than making Trump happy.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

I think in the comments to that tweet there is a bit about data catching up, but surely it's over 250 so a bit of a jump?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

It was a bank holiday weekend so we get a Wednesday spike instead of a Tuesday spike. Today's was still lower than last Tuesday (412 today vs 545 on May 19th)

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

Also last Tuesday's jump was also larger at 385

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

also

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

where is the VE day spike? I don't want to see anyone ill or die, but I also can't believe that letting people have street congas to mourn the wartime dead during a pandemic is going to have no consequences when people I know are unable to attend family funerals

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

it takes a few days to show symptoms, then 1-2 weeks before hospital admittance, then another 1-2 weeks before you cark it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

^posting from beyond the grave

imago, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

"I don't want to see anyone ill or die"

wishing death on English arseholes from the tory heartlands is the only thing that is keeping me going right now!

calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

The parties weren't huge everywhere and everyone else was still obeying most of the guidance most of the time so VE day may have slowed the decline rather than created a spike.

Average time to death in severe cases is hugely variable - anywhere between 14 and 50 days, so there may still be many VE day related deaths to come.

xp

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link


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