thraed of DOJA CAT

I was referring to her NY media blue check peers and twitter stans reflexively coming to her defense actually

ah.

i mean, i feel that the way it was brought up originally was gross too, as some kind of "gotcha." i don't envy jia tolentino's position. that said, she was dismissive and evasive about the testimony of these immigrants and tried to make it seem like the whole case was fabricated by ICE.

Imagine if twitter existed during 9/11.

...

No, no, stop, don't jump.

i don't envy jia tolentino's position. that said, she was dismissive and evasive about the testimony of these immigrants and tried to make it seem like the whole case was fabricated by ICE.

but also she really did not have to say anything at all. was anyone even talking about it before the post

(sorry for continued derail)

Saying nothing would probably be the smart course of action in 99% of these cars y

Er..cases

it was cool to see identity politics be weaponized to defend human trafficking, I must say. there are literally no depths that cannot be plumbed in this new, exciting age

xp people were talking about it, simon. someone on reddit uncovered the original news coverage of the case and it was making the rounds on twitter.

I really like that “Say So” song.

I've never found myself listening to "Say So" and thinking, "this is really nice but I wish the backing track sounded more like Evanescence's 2002 alt-rock hit 'Bring Me to Life'," but this is...something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGBeV-Hlqaw

2020 popstars revealing their ✨HIDDEN UNTAPPED ROCK CRED✨ (this, Post Malone's Nirvana tribute, https://www.nme.com/news/music/kidding-billie-eilish-reacts-dave-grohl-comparing-nirvana-2459635) could probably be its own thread

"say so" sequel is out

Really disappointing taste in restaurants

https://postmates.com/blog/the-receipt-doja-cats-order-history

i thought maybe the bump would be abt the new album. guess not

i'm having a hard time getting into it all that much. her talent is evident but the production is homogenized in a way that leaves me a bit cold, idk. i like the song w/ ariana grande, it has some cool harmonies, a few of the ones on the back end i fuck with too. it's one of those albums that makes me appreciate the single more, i've been playing "kiss me more" a lot. also liked some of the deluxe songs, the one w/ eve is really fun. hot pink was an imperfect album but it felt more distinct to me than this, like she had leveled up the production while still retaining her identity. this one is bringing her further from that i think but i'm gonna give it a few more chances

kiss me more is a great song, isn't it?

i think so

"kiss me more" is great. the video kind of weirded me out at first.

I really hate everything she’s done and can’t disassociate the ironic racism from her current incatnation

hmm yeah i sort of forgot about that, it is pretty repulsive

Sounds like she’s having a rough week: https://www.eonline.com/news/1324617/why-doja-cat-says-shes-quitting-music

:'(

it is in many ways a shitty biz

Get Into It (Yuh) is really good

the attitude of those fans reminded me of the Mitski blow up when she asked people not to record entire shows on their phones a few weeks ago; massive entitlement from young fans. honestly when I look at any (usually female) musician's twitter or fb followers I fucking cringe with the 'bestie' shit and the deranged amount of importance fans put on their parasocial relationships. I'd fucking quit too.

yeah music fans have always had disordered relationships with artists to some degree but the way in which such emotions can be directly expressed to the artists — who in turn feel compelled to “engage” with their fans — nowadays is clearly unhealthy

Needs to hop back on 4Chan chat for a pick me up

lol milo

is her new album going to be good or will it just make her current badmouthing of her last albums seem embarrassing?

Well she is right that the last two weren’t as good as “Amala”

one thing I can say for Doja Cat is she fucking hates her fans, and I don't blame her

the disgust i'm seeing from some online at her recent statements is so intense, but i don't think anything she's said is that outrageous. like, sure, it's imprudent and disrespectful to say those things openly, but she's definitely far from the only artist who feels that way

Her online fan base is as toxic and dumb as most

I sort of side with her on this, but also feel like, notwithstanding that stan culture is a ubiquitous evil, her music and persona sort of created these particular stans, to an extent

idk what to say this is what always happens when a famous person pals around with racist shitheads

oh my post was about this which has nothing to do with racist shitheads: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/entertainment/doja-cat-nickname-boyfriend-music/index.html

(despite the URL saying 'boyfriend' there is nothing in that article about her boyfriend)

I ran across some twitter nonsense about her boyfriend though the other day, which, despite dozens of people calling him a 'manipulator' and 'gaslighter' no one was able to offer any actual details about what that meant other than that he's a twitch streamer who got people to do shit for him for free which...maybe people shouldn't get so invested in twitch streamers that they are doing shit for free?

great vintage doja cat verse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI2XVGDEMEk

You bitches suck, give 'em an udder
Doors open, vertically, car flutter
Mars native, Margiela, muh-fucka
Mark my words, hit a billion like I'm Mark Zucker
Big news, Takanawa, Tom Tucker
Sugar Mama, turn you to a thumb sucker
Nine zeroes, still a really big number
These bitches wouldn't get jack, get lumber
More water, needs milk, needs sugar
More cocoa, half cup, pure vanilla
Out the oven, mittens on, need a chiller
Big cake, I could feed it to a bride-zilla

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-what-j-cyrus-do-disturbing-allegations-racist-tweets-surface-wake-doja-cat-link

new album is pretty good

Crosspost with the "Photos of famous people you didn't expect" thread

TIL that Doja Cat is the girl in the pink dress, hanging with Alice Coltrane. pic.twitter.com/oLnH3KWSwb

— Dave Segal (@editaurus) September 21, 2023

I know she is alt right or something, but “paint the town red” is one of the most fun singles in years

Makes me want to be a bad little bitch too, a rebel

I dont really like the new stuff tbh
sounds like early 00s backpack rap this place used to make fun of w/ some justifiable disdain, just w better 'melodic math' dr luke voice

Feel like she has headed steadily downhill in quality and uphill in success since Amala

i have soured on it a bit. the songs that has stuck with me are the ones that sound like they could've been on amala, like "go off" and "often."

"paint the town red" is reaching a level of annoying tiktok ubiquity, but i still kinda dig it