Rolling Thread on Race 2020

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I'm having trouble taking her apology seriously. Any VEEP at a major firm like she is is trained at work in the art of writing apologies, right down to what phrasing to use, what to exclude/include. The fact that her apology seemed more genuine is likely due to her years of experience crafting apology letters to clients.

But to acknowledge you are intentionally weaponizing your white privilege in an attempt to blackmail the other party into doing what you say...all while YOU KNOW YOU'RE BEING filmed...is not only racist af, but it's basically a death threat.

She purposefully included "African American" in the descriptor she claimed she would use on the 911 call, knowing the other party would interpret that as the possibility he'd be shot by police.

She's sorry cos she doesn't want to lose her cushy job or be "@"ed on Twitter

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

it would be cool if there was a reasonable expectation she'd actually be charged with false reporting, which last I checked is a crime, so people would feel less compelled to crowdsource some strange form of justice online

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

As I told a friend last night, people won't stop weaponizing 911 until they actually are hit with a major penalty for doing so.

True, a Veep who doesn't want her career destroyed might take pause before doing it again, but the average person who does this doesn't have a great job (or a job at all), or might be self-employed. Not gonna deter people like them.

Jail time might not phase some, but the average person we've seen do this doesn't seem like they could last 5 minutes in a cell.

Really wish she'd serve time. Even a weekend in jail

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

Totally agree with all that, I was just struck by the disconnect in the reprehensible behavior that was filmed and the self-awareness and consideration her apology seems to demonstrate. Not that her apology does much good to anybody but herself at this point

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

so She was strangling the dog.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

Autocorrect, damnit! xp not so.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

"I'm not a racist. I did not mean to harm that man in any way," she said, adding that she also didn't mean any harm to the African American community.

fuck this person

wasdnous (abanana), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

franklin templeton has canned her

no doubt tucker c. is booking her right now

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

what good would tucker get from her? she already admitted to being in the wrong. this story is too straight-forward imo to make good culture war kindling

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

Don't underestimate the ability of Fox to turn her into the real victim here.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Just had a split-second flashback to the MAGA-hatted teen smirking at a Native American activist near the Lincoln Memorial back in January 2019, i.e. several galactic eons ago. The intensity of the outrage is directly proportional to the depth of the oblivion into which it evaporates, almost immediately.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

four mpls cops fired

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

that's good but i hope there is further accountability

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

what good would tucker get from her? she already admitted to being in the wrong. this story is too straight-forward imo to make good culture war kindling

― Mordy, Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:44 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

unfortunately you are already starting to see the jackasses come out with "he was carrying those dog treats, clearly he is looking for confrontation" as if a) that makes any sense whatsoever b) that has any bearing on anything at all

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

they'll find out the bird-watching man got a parking ticket in 1982

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

it's so cut and dried the nazis on 4chan have resorted to speculating that cooper is jewish

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

glad those cops were fired but this is straight up murder

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

four mpls cops fired at, with guns

fixed it

(tbc I don't actually want anyone dead but it is horrible that firings are all that ever seem to come of these things, when we're "lucky")

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

unfortunately you are already starting to see the jackasses come out with "he was carrying those dog treats, clearly he is looking for confrontation" as if a) that makes any sense whatsoever b) that has any bearing on anything at all

dude said "When I try to give unleashed dogs a treat, their owners leash them, which is what I wanted in the first place" which is 100% genius behavior-hacking

(so serious) (DJP), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

fucked up story of course, but I also found that bit inspiring

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

it's a smart response honestly

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

this guy has made birdwatching cool again, and thus deserves to be Time's person of the year

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

glad those cops were fired but this is straight up murder

― frogbs, Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:49 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm hoping this will make any ensuing FBI investigation and charges easier, as they will no longer have the police union's protection.

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

I rarely (never?) post on this thread, so I don't know if this would be considered frivolous.

http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/entertainment/jimmy-fallon-apology/index.html

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link

if you're wondering why "make whites great again" is trending on twitter,

Here is Derek Chauvin, the racist cop who kept his knee on #GeorgeFloyd’s neck, cut off his air passage and murdered him, wearing a “Make Whites Great Again” hat, a clear sign that this piece of excrement should’ve been taken off the streets a long time ago.#JusticeForFloyd pic.twitter.com/KxGxHAIzlH

— Bishop Talbert Swan (@TalbertSwan) May 27, 2020

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

Just had a split-second flashback to the MAGA-hatted teen smirking at a Native American activist near the Lincoln Memorial back in January 2019, i.e. several galactic eons ago

If you remember correctly, the commentariat decided it was OK for him to be up in the face of an old guy because elsewhere on the National Mall and the Black Hebrews had yelled at him several minutes earlier

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

apparently that's not actually him. seem to be some pics of him front & center at a Trump rally though

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

I rarely (never?) post on this thread, so I don't know if this would be considered frivolous.
http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/entertainment/jimmy-fallon-apology/index.html

fwiw Fallon (who I assume was a 1st year cast member at the time?) probably isn't the person to be upset at for this, a bunch of writers & Lorne Michaels had to sign off on that

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

If you remember correctly, the commentariat decided it was OK for him to be up in the face of an old guy because elsewhere on the National Mall and the Black Hebrews had yelled at him several minutes earlier.

iirc the old guy came up to the kid and the internet libs went crazy about a minor making a face that reminded them of bullies in high school. that incident imo was shameful + has v little to do with cooper or the minneapolis killing which were serious crimes and not the fever dreams of angry twitterers.

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

that's... one reading of it

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

maybe none of us rc

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

The man on the right isn’t Derek Chauvin. He isn’t a cop. He is Jonathan Lee Riches, a notorious con man, troll and prankster, not to mention the "world's most litigious man." Riches injects himself, indefensibly, into tragic news events, even if it means going to prison. https://t.co/Y66mXihrYB

— Luke O'Brien (@lukeobrien) May 27, 2020

fatuous salad (symsymsym), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

sorry for introducing that into the thread. shit is bad enough without introducing whatever the hell is going on with that dude

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

(but thank you to symsymsym and frogbs for pointing it out)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

iirc the old guy came up to the kid and the internet libs went crazy about a minor making a face that reminded them of bullies in high school. that incident imo was shameful

what the fuck is wrong with you

no (Left), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

just credulously (I hope) repeating the 4chan/fox news line here

no (Left), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

oh no don't cancel me plz mister

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

too late

no (Left), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

did you get outraged over that scary muslim woman yelling at poor pregnant chelsea too

no (Left), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

on a lighter (?) note, here's Christian Cooper's measured response following Amy Cooper's firing
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/26/nyregion/amy-cooper-dog-central-park.html

“I am one of the few male African-Americans who birds the Ramble regularly,” he said. “And I have always been aware that if I am crawling around behind a shrub trying to catch a glimpse of that rare bird, holding a metal object in my hands, I will be perceived differently than a white man if police come across that scene. I didn’t want to kowtow to that, I didn’t want to give it any power,” he added. “I am pretty adamant about not being a participant in my own dehumanization.”

“It’s a little bit of a frenzy, and I am uncomfortable with that,” he said. “If our goal is to change the underlying factors, I am not sure that this young woman having her life completely torn apart serves that goal.”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

or, alternately, Damon Young's brief meditation on forgiveness

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/thoughts-on-forgiving-amy-cooper-aka-darth-karen-who-1843701476

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

^^^v thought-provoking and dignified piece

imago, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

I have to admit I'm almost convinced by that.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

enjoyed that quite a bit

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

WNYC putting David Brooks on to talk about moral leadership is odious

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

feel like wnyc has lost their way a bit

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 May 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

And I’ll just leave this here.

And not one of these other actors spoke up for me and the fact I was not on here, being as well known as most of them. pic.twitter.com/z3t3rXPBNy

— Noel Clarke (@NoelClarke) May 29, 2020

calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

poor Mickey!
naw really that is lame

Nhex, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

FYI: I’m not impressed with the violence. I’m not impressed with the looting… I am Fn Happy as Hell!! That the people finally Stood Up Nationally to the BS..

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) May 31, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link


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