love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Big LJ energy here (he’s talking about cricket)

My wife got a bit angry with me because I was listening so intently I started to drive away from RHS Wisley with my mum still hanging out the side of the car...

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) August 27, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

Hodges has also been busy in the Mail supporting Farage's attempts to get the government to sink boats of people crossing the Channel. Maybe Glenda doesn't mind that.

nashwan, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

i'd've disowned the cunt long ago not joking

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

Glenda Jackson was in the Blair government for a couple of years but those early cabinets were quite different to the later ones. She was probably closer to the likes of Robin Cook and Mo Mowlam than Corbyn (but probably to the left of both).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

if hodges had been given the ilx hazing treatment aged 19-30 he might've turned out like me 😇

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

I like to think Glenda is sitting there smoking and drinking, regardless of the hour, only acknowledging Dan when she absolutely has to.

@Ginabellman You think that's bad. I recently found out my mum has been spelling my middle name wrong for 47 years...

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) March 9, 2016

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

wait is he 50 omg

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

ahhahaha he is FIFTY

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

This is how I feel realising you’re only a couple of years younger than me.

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link

:o

imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link

One MP has received 1,000 emails overnight complaining about Dominic Cummings. I’m told this extract is typical of most of them.

MPs worried this is causing irreparable damage. pic.twitter.com/O3ZJbYpUZw

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) May 26, 2020

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link

sorry your culture-war dog-whistle didn't work

NEW - YouGov poll

59% think Dominic Cummings should resign (up from 52% at the weekend) pic.twitter.com/h0Jxch9poJ

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) May 26, 2020

stet, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

#AccidentalPartridge pic.twitter.com/GJrLC6tzA4

— Accidental Partridge (@AccidentalP) May 26, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link

lol

Downing Street lobby briefing

No10 spokesman said that when they said Dominic Cummings was “at home” through April, he didn’t actually know where he was and just knew he wasn’t at work. “It was very obvious at the time that what I was setting out was that he wasn’t at work”. 🧐

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) May 26, 2020

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link

Read that as Dominic Cummings didn't actually know where he was - which would explain the phone conversation with Johnson that neither could remember any details of.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

I must admit I can absolutely believe Cummings shitting himself, freaking out and losing his marbles when he thought he had the 'rona.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

That's pretty much what happened.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

Looks like it. Have a word with him, Tracer Hand.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:33 (three years ago) link

That would have been totally survivable though – "I panicked when I got the Rona and made a bad mistake and I'm sorry" would have more than done the job (and might have covered the birthday trip when it inevitably came up). It's the arrogance that's done for him

stet, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

My mum: “Are you going to be doing more stuff defending Cummings”. Me: “Yes”. My mum: “Then you’re an idiot”. So that’s going well then...

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) May 26, 2020

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

if he apologised he would be failing in his mission to act as a lightning rod, trolling the media & making them look incompetent, & making everyone talk about him instead of rona

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

Talking about him is talking about rona though.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

Tory MPs in marginals getting jumpy is one thing, Tories in safe seats is another.

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

indirectly, it's a sideshow, an outlet for public anger that might otherwise have a more politically useful target, as he gets to play the maverick villainous arrogant bad egg while making clear none of the rest of the govt had any idea. whether he eventually gets sacrificed or not the longer this goes on the less time the uk death toll is in the headlines

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

I note starmer is really going hard on the nandy-concerned-eyebrows in his rona-related weirdly slow, cloying announcements. this shows more humility than the more imperious, disdainful furrowed brow of blair

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

if I was starmzy I’d be tempted to just bunt johnson’s line back at him by saying “people can make their own minds up and don’t think any reasonable observer would support what he’s done, particularly in light of all the sacrifices ordinary people have made for two months up and down the country.”

||||||||, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

There is no way this shitshow is 5D chess. The rona isn't going anywhere while this plays out; it's just waiting in the queue

stet, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

Not really convinced the sacrificial lamb tactic is viable when everything is about the pandemic. Public anger at Cummings' behaviour is directly connected with the government's handling of the crisis.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

meh, while Cummings stays in post it kind of is, if he goes over this - sacked, resigns, shot by concerned passerby with silver bullet - it'll not be thought of as a government failing by anybody who matters after a fortnight

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

Well he isn't going is he?

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

and the effect will be broadly the same i suspect, forgotten given time, not directly linked to poor, too loyal BoJo and way down the list of this government's demonstrable faults and failings by the time another election comes round

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

it's not that he shouldn't be sacked and it's not that people aren't angry but it's not the kind of anger amongst the kind of people at the kind of time that will effect much political change. it slots neatly into the one-thought-at-a-time functioning of our news media, is all

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

Sorry, I forgot that everyone itt is thinking about the next election when I'm thinking no further than the end of the week. Mea culpa.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

sadly enough the likely best outcome from a Starmzfront Labour point of view would be for him to stay in post and then this to be revisited in a legit post-Rona enquiry but i can't build up much excitement for that prospect

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

I've not recovered from the last election, I feel like my synapses, or whatever, have been so burnt out I can barely even process the word 'election'.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

yeah i'm not saying anybody is "wrong" to be angry. i broadly agree that this kind of public anger is fuel to a Cummings and distracts from what the government are actually doing and what they want to do but i wouldn't make a whole shtick out of that.

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

also this thread is for bad jokes and howling it isn't the Fifth International so

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

Yes, it's distracting from what they're doing – but even if we were focused on that nothing would change there this week, they'd brush it, say the comparisons were wrong, etc etc. You might get a bit more attention on Brexit, but the country isn't interested in that now.

Meantime there's a big scalp up for grabs, one which Johnson has glued himself to in a way that has cost him 20 points already. Even if nothing more comes of it than a love-to-see-it resignation, it's worth a bit of a distraction to get it.

stet, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

I think this is only a minor distraction. Anyone see video of that huge queue for the food bank in Elephant & Castle shopping centre? I mean, the economic contraction and fall out has potential to really blow up this summer and beyond xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

If Cummings really is holding the different factions of the cabinet if not together, then in check, it's hard to know what kind of impact keeping him / turfing him out is going to have on all of the more important stuff.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

someone said if domcum goes, BJ will have to deal with a load of resignations. who will resign? domcum's staff or cabinet ministers?

young dom full of cum (||||||||), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

5D chess is nonsense bc it suggests a level of control and order which is impossible. this is just 'flooding the zone with shit', in keeping w/ the disruptive agent of chaos modus operandi that has characterised this wing of the right.

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

Pretty obvious that Johnson doesn't think Cummings leaving the government is a minor distraction.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

that strategy doesn't usually call for the shit to be yr own suicide, but xp

stet, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

i’d venture a guess that the economic consequences of many millions of people out of work will be more severe, and more transformative long-term(for better or for worse) than anyone is yet grasping. it’s absolutely massive and the characteristics of this virus mean no quick solutions. this government is absolutely not up to the challenge. a scandal of this size and shape will look, in retrospect, like a day out at, er barnard castle.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

TS: 'flooding the zone with shit' vs. 5D chess

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

5D chess but all the dimensions are indistinguishable from shit

mark s, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

someone said if domcum goes, BJ will have to deal with a load of resignations. who will resign? domcum's staff or cabinet ministers?


Torn on whether Gove would go. Remember the time he said “I owe him everything?”

Fped you for that dn btw.

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link

it's the birthday present from me to you

young dom full of cum (||||||||), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

Btw I agree with the theory I saw earlier on twitter, which is that this whole thing has fucked what most of us assume is the government’s intention to shift the blame to the public.

gyac, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link


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