actually sorry that's not true, I forgot about D'Amato
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
I like Sittenfeld’s short stories - they’re unambtious, sort of Tom Perotta, Cat Person-type stories, but usually funny and absorbing. I don’t think she’s written a single novel I’d want to pick up though - I think the last one was a modernised Pride & Prejudice.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 May 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
No thanks, I have to inject some bleach at that time. pic.twitter.com/yTMsb6sER5— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 21, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link
great revive
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
when you’ve lost Doug Henwood...
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
i just love how simpatico L-MM is with her in perpetrating a con, and making me equally thirst for hemlock
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
:/
MLK Jr. said: “I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice, and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress." This is a subtweet.— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 14, 2022
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link
She literally wrote her thesis on how being the white moderate was the better way
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link
who was she subtweeting?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link
Sinema
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link
Somehow when MLK spoke of breaking down the dams of law and order I don't think he was referring to changing senate procedure so an infrastructure bill can pass.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:17 (two years ago) link
I respect that she’s still doing this even though the response ranges from “oh, she’s still alive?!” to “fuck off and die.”
At least she’s not doing promoted tweets for hot sauce.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:18 (two years ago) link
xpost I think she's talking about the Voting rights bill not BBB
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link
ohhhhhh, ok. Well that makes it more on point I guess, but still
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link
Love her or loathe her, I'll give you three reasons she should have been president: Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett.
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link
It's amazing how even at 74, she manages to come off like the student council president trying to sound cool while saying "marijuana is for losers."
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
If only someone had told her that Michigan and Wisconsin had electoral votes.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link
I think u mean why BERNIE should have been president, xp
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link
That may be, but she was the party's nominee. The Bernie voters who stayed home in the general can go fuck themselves, since they fucked the rest of us.
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link
I still see that meme a bunch where they ask during the Dem debate "should the candidate with the most votes be the nominee?" and everyone says No except for Bernie, as some sort of gotcha re: the Dems trying to "protect democracy". But Biden was almost certainly going to get the most votes in the primary anyway, right?
― frogbs, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link
― jimbeaux, Friday, January 14, 2022 1:34 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Keep up the good work, you're doing great
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link
I'm still upset LOL
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
thinking about her makes me very upset
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link
Clearing the runway for an unpopular candidate who had never won a contested election might have been the real blunder. Although just one among many by the democrats that set the stage for 2016. But keep blaming things on the imaginary "Bernie voter who stayed home."
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link
Against Trump, she seemed a better bet than Bernie, who might have gone the way of George McGovern.
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link
Serious question what should the Democrats have done in 2016? Only three people ran and one of them was a guy no one had heard of. I get that all of us wanted Bernie but he got a lot less votes! And 2020 wasn’t particularly close either! Do we really think Mayor Pete and Klob and whoever else dropping out and endorsing Biden tipped the scales that much?
― frogbs, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link
ok i now regret posting her shitty tweet
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
Serious question what should the Democrats have done in 2016?
Anything?
― jpg trouble in wallo gina (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
It was so hard to take Trump seriously
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
she should have peeled off her face and revealed her real reptilian skin
― Karl Malone, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, January 14, 2022 1:54 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh come on, you don't want to do this again?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link
i did it for the lols, i forgot there are people everywhere itching to do berniebro stuff
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:57 (two years ago) link
#stillwithher
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link
#pantsuitbackfromthecleaners
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE
― jpg trouble in wallo gina (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link
This thread in a nutshell:
― jimbeaux
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive)
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link
how is this woman still alive? i could have sworn she was on her death bed! remember at the 9/11 anniversary she passed out because her handler didn't give her the injection in her neck that was keeping her alive. pretty sure she was clinically dead there for a few minutes until they could get the baby blood she has to drink to function.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link
the only thing I know is the whole "vote blue no matter who!" vs. "why should I play into this system when both sides are bad" debate is gonna get much worse now that Republicans are openly telegraphing the end of democracy
― frogbs, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link
hey some people want democracy to end, other people want it to stay. I think they should met in the middle.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link
"Both sides do it"
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
lmao this thread
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
classic, strong salty grandma energy
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
Is ‘nebb back?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
Imagine a Hillary/Bernie/Kamala 2024 primary
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link
what about a brunch instead
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 14 January 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link
Is Pepsi OK?
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link
I'm pretty sure most if not all of the people posting in this thread agree that (1) it would be better if any democrat, Hillary or otherwise, had won in 2016, (2) it is bad that Trump won, (3) it is bad that Trump got three supreme court picks, and (4) #3 is one of the main reasons why #1 is true.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link
Bernie needs to pass the mantle in 2024 to someone like Jeff Merkley.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 January 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link
I also think that one of the reasons, though not the exclusive reason, that democrats don't perform better hinges on the fundamental misunderstanding inherent in the idea that "Bernie voters stayed home/voted for Trump" (putting aside that this is an exaggerated phenomenon).
First, framing things that way implies that there is an immutable group of voters that would otherwise have voted for Hillary and even whose votes Hillary was entitled to. By not voting for Hillary, they actually betrayed the Democrats and Hillary to whom they owed their votes. This is just an extremely dumb and vain way to think about electoral politics. It completely misses the point that many of those voters were not necessarily likely democratic voters to begin with, and certainly were not solid, vote-blue-no-matter-who voters. The guy who voted for Bernie but voted for Trump in the general pretty obviously was not a solid democratic voter to begin with. Anytime a party blames voters rather than looking in the mirror and asking "why did we fail to win votes that we could have won?" it's clear why they lost.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 January 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link
Certainly, I would not pin the entire loss on Bernie voters who stayed home. It's a truism that Hillary Clinton is hated, although I made hundreds of calls for her before the election and got an overwhelmingly positive response. The Comey announcement definitely hurt, as did her campaign's taking the swing states in the Midwest for granted. I was responding specifically to the assertion that Bernie should have been President, and know for a fact that at least some people who would have voted for Bernie did not vote at all in the general.
― jimbeaux, Friday, 14 January 2022 21:26 (two years ago) link