Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

Plan to open mosque in Trocadero in London sparks objections

A video posted on Friday by The Iconoclast, an anonymous white nationalist vlogger, urging people to oppose the plan because of the dangers it posed to the “native people of this country”, triggered a surge in objections to Westminster council.

Another said: “I think it’s a travesty that we should sacrifice a building that was built before our time in such grand detail to Islam, which is not the religion of this country.”

Neo-Nazis rallying on social media to stop part of a building being converted into a mosque doesn’t strike me as particularly newsworthy to begin with - reporting it uncritically, not challenging errors and signal boosting one of them by name is a bizarre choice,

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Ah, the trocadero, historical home of the traditional vr arcade, alien live experience and a big hmv.

sheeit, which particular buildings in central London exist in some time vacuum that precludes them having "historical" status? There must be hundreds of historical buildings that have been repurposed as mosques and synagogues, it's part of the rich tapestry of London history that the Graun have always embraced as the leading liberal voice of the UK ... oh scratch that last bit.

I think the UK's racists and far right wankers have got their work cut out for them if they think they can turn this into the UK's equivalent of You'll Never Believe It But They're Building A Mosque Near The Site of 9/11.

Last time I set foot in that place it was dispiriting to the point of almost triggering a panic attack. Repurposing it as a mosque could only improve it, and the thought of daily calls to prayer echoing across Piccadilly Circus would piss off the gammon to the point of apoplexy. Win-win!

(Funland, the arcade was called. there was a Sega connection as well, videos on youtube. i remember it being mostly empty)

Have to wonder whether the complainants have been inside the Trocadero in the last decade, right now almost anything would be an improvement.

I already consider the site of the old Funland arcade a sacred ground of worship tbh

When I worked at the Guardian and they had a mtg after Trump was elected and asked us what we wanted to talk about, I said, "I wanna talk about why you've cut the contracts of all the other Black opinion writers."

They ended the meeting.

They did not renew my next contract. https://t.co/uS3jsO1IEW

— Dr. Steven W. Thrasher (@thrasherxy) June 8, 2020

guardian is a racist liberal rag and tracey is a nazi fuck

the headline they've used to cover this JK Rowling story is utter nonsense too

surely not in the terf paper of record?

christ that's disgusting. I thought it would be something like "rowling defends feminism against trans activists" but they've outdone themselves

I mean I didn't expect them to cover it fairly but this is particularly dismal

Honestly struggling to come to terms with how repulsive this is pic.twitter.com/dGvXB5pYyX

— Tom Williams (@shirleymush) June 12, 2020

i wonder if we can have some sort of sweep/thread on what Starmzy will have to do to get critiqued in the Graun/melt Twitter

signal any kind of move to the left, obv

good news is that’s not gonna happen

Zoe Williams was criticising him last week fwiw.

fuck me he really has lost the Left

something uniquely repellent about these proud anti racist dinner party types who are clearly sick and tired of hearing about racism, but only feel able express the sentiment indirectly through something else, for fear of sounding gauche. slimy bastards

sir condemning rowling's bigotry would surely be the quickest way to turn them against him right now. a rhetoric turn to the left might even be humoured for a bit, with no election in sight, since they know the people they fear most are less to come around anyway

*rhetorical

*less likely. sorry

Irrespective of whether Heather Stewart is right, it’s bold to make the argument that banging on about sculptures and Fawlty Towers is a culture war trap set by Johnson from the position of Political Editor of a newspaper that has done almost nothing else over the last week.

That Zoe Williams piece from last week is as critical as it will get. Most will be happy that it isn't Corbyn and for the next few years they can pretend this is enough.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/20/the-far-left-origins-of-no-10s-desperate-attack-on-all-things-woke-?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

Nick Cohen - The far-left origins of No 10's desperate attack on all things 'woke'

Lol ok a+ trolling

"The presence of the ex-revolutionaries in a rightwing debate shows the distance from asinine far leftism to paranoid conservatism is nowhere near as great as the innocent imagine." if you want an authority on asinine

Telling how this thread is routinely bumped on Sundays.

guardian giving known sex pests a platform again is it

they've also given four stars to debut album by voice-of-tory-heartlands indie wankers Sports Team if you want another reason to hate them.

Indie is the voice of Tory heartlands tbf

apart from Belle & Sebastian, the slave trading founders of ILX!

I always thought of indie as more lib dem but I’m out of date, what’s the difference anyway

apparently now the LibDems are plotting to outflank Starmzy in that sweet indie spot just slightly to the left of the centre right.

I can only think of that wanker from Coldplay and that wanker Dom Joly as prominent LibDem supporters from the entertainment industry, but I'm sure there are more.

Brian Eno. I knew there was one I'd forgotten.

Billy Bragg if he counts as entertainment

Daniel Radcliffe, 20-year-old star of Harry Potter and 12th wealthiest young person in the UK, is clearly not put off by the party's plan to hit the super-rich with a "mansion tax".

He said: "If all the people who liked the Lib Dems voted for them you could change politics overnight and we could have a proper three-party system."

lol, that 2010 Claggmania was an even worse drug than m-cat

Come on Potter most of the people who vote for them don't like them

tbf He was 20 years old there and dopey as fuck, Jo Swinson howerver....

all these ppl are indie imo, incl/esp joly & radcliffe

On the white, posh and totally smug and myopic metric.. Indie to the core!

Opener Lander sets the tone, Rob Knaggs’s ever-shifting guitar lines supporting frontman Alex Rice’s Sprechgesang stream-of-consciousness (“I wanna be a lawyer/ Or someone who hunts foxes”).

the Hampshire blues

Know this will go down badly here, but surely Bragg & Eno were saying nice things about libdems only when it was nice anti-war alcoholic uncle Charles Kennedy against war criminal Tonty fucking Blair, and both were supporting Corbyn in the election last year.

Bragg has been an unmitigable wanker since birth whether he supported Corbyn or not. Yeah Eno did turn out for Corbyn in '19 tbf, but who really cares about celebs and how politics is like a no-stakes trends game to them. Well me, because I've just commented on it on this thread tbf! Shit!

Anyone who supports the Lib Dems for even a nanosecond is tainted for all eternity.

Voting Tory is preferable tbh.

I have much more respect for just about every Tory voting cunt in the UK than I have for Billy Bragg, who fronted Red Wedge for Kinnock Sr. Give me Duran Duran any day over that waste of skin!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/21/if-i-must-wear-a-face-mask-ill-do-so-with-a-look-of-ironic-detachment

What on earth is this column about

it's about 350 words