should i give the grateful dead a chance?

i took this as a challenge. my thought here is that you gotta go with the former child stars. macaulay culkin. danny bonaduce.

I maintain that 1940s and 1950s movie actors are the all-time champions of looking 50 at 30.

I think Garcia definitely looks early 40s in that clip. Ten years later at age 40 and I dunno, 55? 60?

https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/193427782/Jerry_Garcia1_1982.jpg?auto=format&fit=max&w=780

Bonaduce at age 30. I would guess late 40s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ro5jLUrOA

Culkin at age 30, otoh, still looking young for his age.

https://www.wmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/24/5b572658c51225203f2ba132_GettyImages-83386408.jpg?fit=3534%2C3000

no 30-year old has looked older than 1972 Jerry Garcia

Howard Kaylan looked older when he was 21.

https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2015/05/The-Turtles.jpg

i guess there's, like, different sorts of aging, and a lot of it is very related to gendered presentation

beards make people look older. particularly long, graying beards. paradoxically they can also cover up a lot of the signs of visible aging in the skin - bonaduce's aging is from living a hard life. one can also see premature aging in a lot of people who do sex work, i've noticed.

my go-to for premature aging is someone like mark e. smith. he also had the classic british poor dental hygiene symptoms of premature aging, but by the time he was 60 he looked about 150 years old. he was also dying and had not been taking care of himself for decades at that point, though. i don't remember what he looked like in '87. i tried looking it up and there was this truly awful clickbait video and i had to give up.

howard kaylan looking old in his 20s seems more of a style thing than anything else

Style and the grey hair, which I'm so pleased he never tried to hide.

I've seen lots of 60 year old men who look as bad as MES!

Richard Manuel at 33 in the Last Waltz gives Jerry a run for his money

can we go back to the box set that revived this? all that shitty colored vinyl, jeez.

Why is Workingman's purple?

because P S Y C H E D E L I C B A N D S O F Y O R E O N C O L O R E D V I N Y L

also, "shut up and give us money"

Really crisp mix. Chicago June 76. Lesh bass tone is deep af

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/03/16/gd-gettyimages-453967204_wide-5c1bd95d5c06385ec379f0c082b10647232cd317-s700-c85.jpg

Damn “mission in the rain,” cool sh1t

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/grateful-dead-355-hour-playlist/

355-Hour Spotify Playlist Puts Every Official Grateful Dead Live Release In Chronological Order

(up to 362 hrs now, playlist link in story)

No Drums & Space flavor?

https://www.stereogum.com/2088441/grateful-dead-deodorant-announced/news/

have any of yall listened to the 50th Anniversary Editions of Working Man's Dead, American Beauty? What did you think?

The 50th thing just adds a live show from what I’ve heard. Or were the tracks remastered ?

Ya told me goodbye....how was I to know...you didn’t mean goodbye

They haven't announced the American Beauty one yet. Maybe in the fall? The WD reissue (out next month) just has a from '71, and the album itself may have been remastered: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/grateful-dead-workingmans-dead-50th-anniversary/

"Has a show from '71"

No studio stuff, although some has issued in the past, like the somewhat disappointing original of "Mason's Children" on So Many Roads(?).

Yeah, So Many Roads. Not so much disappointing as just tentative and reserved, doesn't slap like the live version on the prior expanded WD CD.

...and the studio stuff is actually getting its own digital release. Story within: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/grateful-dead-workingmans-dead-reissue-angels-share-1011483/

tl;dr: It's all rehearsal and in-progress versions of stuff already on the album, all part of a vault score of similar material from some (but not all) of the other studio albums. Also, a deluxe American Beauty is in the pipeline, but whatever included studio extras are of a lower quality than this batch.

Workingdudes is their best studio album imho. Love dire wolf

“tl” is right... that’s a long f’in article

^^The drums & space sections were pretty unnecessary.

lol

I listened to In The Dark recently and a enjoyed it quite a bit

For this Fourth, I'm doing what I intended last tyme: listen to 50th Anniversary Editions on YouTube---although skipped the debut and went to Anthem, one I'd never heard at all, unlike the debut.Liked the '71 remix better overall, seemed like the stereo imaging was more centered, deeper focus, something, on sub-audiophile headphones. "Alligator" maybe fave in both mixes. May skip the bonus (show) disc (familiar set list, incl. several Anthem titles, also I caught some of the use of live in studio), and go on to the one I can't spell. I'm gonna come back this one fer shure.

Red & white, blue suede shoes. I’m Uncle Sam, how do you do?

Of course knww most of the songs on Aoxomoxoa from show tapes, but omg original context: at first this version of "St. Stephen" seemed too quaint, like an early Van Dyke Parks outtake w more guitar--but fairly soon, sonic shrooms started to tilt me down their gullet---will have to come back to it---advantage of music to other drugs: sometimes you can dream the same dream twice and better---may never get to '7i redo, as described by wiki

...Garcia and Lesh went back in the studio in 1971 to remix the album, removing many parts present on the original release, including a choir singing on "Mountains of the Moon", many difficult-to-identify sounds on "What's Become of the Baby", and an a cappella ending for "Doin' that Rag," dropped for an earlier fadeout. The remix also uses different vocal takes on some songs, most noticeably "Dupree's Diamond Blues." The result, with the same catalog number (WS1790) and perhaps brighter sound, but with much of the original's experimental character removed...nooooo

But yes, as with 50th Anniversary Anthem of the Sun, good have orginals and revisions at hand if you want 'em.

if you like The Band but can’t get down with “Brown Eyed Woman”, you are posing

Country funk for the win

Oh yeah 50th anniversary had both versions of the lps they rejigged in the early 70s on the same disc and s live set on a 2nd.
But that is only the 2nd and 3rd lps.
So are you getting less playing time on everything after.
& did they add a live set to Live Dead

if you like The Band but can’t get down with “Brown Eyed Woman”, you are posing

― brimstead, Friday, August 7, 2020 4:20 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

real talk

R.I.P. Jerry, 25 years today

I remember where I was

I was in Juneau, AK and there wasn’t a cloud in the sky. Called my dad and he asked, “did you hear the news?”

I was on a school bus on the way back from a YMCA camping trip. summer of “waterfalls” on the radio all the damn time iirc

I was at my girlfriend's house. It's twenty-five years later now and we've been married most of that time, and have two kids.

was watching mtv and they interrupted whatever program was running to announce it.

Scarlet > Fire from Cornelll '77 is sounding so crisp I can almost bite a piece out of it

RIP to the GOD

was watching mtv and they interrupted whatever program was running to announce it.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, August 10, 2020 1:43 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was watching MTV and Touch of Grey came on. I was like "wow! maybe MTV is taking a new programming direction and playing some older music?" I had forgotten when they had done the exact same thing a year earlier with Kurt. Then came the news scroll at the bottom of the screen announcing his death. I walked down to the river and cried.

I was eating at a Sooper Salad in SA. RIP

Scarlet > Fire from Cornelll '77 is sounding so crisp I can almost bite a piece out of it

RIP to the GOD

― black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 10 August 2020 09:14 (eight hours ago) link

It's really kind of a sonic monument, and I'm not even always sure I exactly *like* it, but it's singular.

oh man i was sitting on a dude's couch waiting to buy an 1/8 of weed when Touch of Grey came on MTV. it was my then girlfriend / now wife's birthday and I made dinner later and bought a pint of cherry garcia for dessert

lol