The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

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I’ve always thought it probably contributed to the knee injury MJ had the first year

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns

public personality vs private personality. haven't seen that part (I'm on ep#4), but I'm guessing his mask dropped there briefly. Hence ending the interview so he could put it back on.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

as usual he was a dick about it, but totally with MJ about not giving Cartwright the ball. Man he was painful to watch.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Doubt anyone reading this thread other than me couldn't watch the original broadcasts, but all episodes can now be watched for free via the ESPN app.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

This is about as nostalgic as nostalgic gets, for me. Other than friends/family/community, there's nothing else that was so prevalent throughout my entire childhood than MJ and the Bulls (aged 6 his rookie year, 20 for last title).

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

how many home foundations have been torn asunder from ppl with good home theaters having Pippen's voice bellow thru their subwoofers

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

haha, his voice is amazing

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

1st time I was ever allowed to be on my own in Chicago was going to 2nd Championship celebration in Grant Park. Took the train in, just me and my friend. By the time we got there was already an enormous swarm of people. Never seen that many people in person before or since. Had to climb up on base of lightpost just to get a glimpse of them on the stage wayyyy in the distance. Crazy how parsimonious Reinsdorf was (is!!) when you think about Bulls going from getting outdrawn at Chicago Stadium by the friggin indoor soccer team to being the most popular sports club in the world in less than a decade. If eventually the Bulls and White Sox have different owners, I wonder if Sox would be able to make it w/o Bulls subsidizing them (btw if you ever want to get an authentic Chicago experience, go to a Sox game instead of Cubs. The accents you'll hear are alone worth the price of admission).

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

lmao at this Magic Johnson article about "who could've made it in Jordan's era", it's just the 5 best current NBA players. that's so on brand.

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

has any 90s dude said something along the lines of "like with all athletic endeavors, basketball skills, training regimens, diets, knowledge/strategy have evolved since I played. Just like we took what we saw watching NBA guys growing up and took it to a new level, current players are playing at a base level well beyond ours. The avg player now would be a superstar if he time-traveled back 30 years"?? Or is Ego just too much of a beast for that to happen, at least for those who were stars in their era?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

there was a baseball player who said something like "Babe Ruth would never make it out of the minors if he played today" and it got some backlash but he was definitely right

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

he’d probably make a pretty good DH for somebody

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

dunno about that

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

The avg player now would be a superstar if he time-traveled back 30 years"

Javale McGee, Superstar.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

my next door neighbor runs the maintenance crew at the white sox spring trainng facility nearby. we've become friends and he gets us into games and such. Gave fam and me an in depth tour of the whole facility last year and he showed us reinsd0rfs office. we sat on the couches in there for 10 minutes or so and talked. my kids were messing around at at his desk and my youngest (3) grabbed his half smoked cigar that was leaning on an ash tray. had to scramble to pry it out of his hands and place the mangled cigar back. i wonder what his reaction was to seeing it. that's my story.

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

lol nice. The head groundskeeper at Sox Park in Chicago, Roger Bossard, is famous. Well, as famous as a groundskeeper can get.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link

aka The Sodfather

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

haha had no idea

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

The accuracy of how #TheLastDance was edited 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/0ZkzJKAbtP

— Harmonica Lewinskyღ (@_harmonyxo) May 19, 2020

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

there was a baseball player who said something like "Babe Ruth would never make it out of the minors if he played today" and it got some backlash but he was definitely right


NOPE

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

The guy with the best reflexes in the world in 1930 would have very good reflexes today

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

but you cant play with your pockets full of hot dogs now

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

is it possible to calculate pitch velocity based on old footage?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

handing ruth one of those skinny handle bats they got now instead of a maple log would be interesting to see

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

I think people are underestimating the leap in talent the league had in the 90s. Rony Seikaly and Nikola Vucevic are basically the same guy and are having the same careers.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

In the 80s seikaly probably is considered a superstar for a while but in the 90s people thought he was just a stat padder

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

these conversations are crazy-making, obviouslyy if you zapped Babe Ruth c. 1927 into today's game he'd be toast, but "if he were alive today" he'd be up to speed on the modern game, conditioned differently etc., and he would dominate.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

The league has a lot of stars. The best player on the 11th best team is generally considered a star player. In my world, a superstar is more like a consensus top 5 player in the league over at least five consecutive seasons, the type of player kids everywhere idolize and pretend to be, whose jersey still gets worn by fans a decade after they retire. You know, a superstar. Not Rony Seikaly.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

yay literally my least favorite sports discussion topic

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link

yeah i can't really get worked up about it

call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link

babe ruth had no jumper

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

The league has a lot of stars. The best player on the 11th best team is generally considered a star player. In my world, a superstar is more like a consensus top 5 player in the league over at least five consecutive seasons, the type of player kids /everywhere/ idolize and pretend to be, whose jersey still gets worn by fans a decade after they retire. You know, a /super/star. Not Rony Seikaly.


The best player on the 12th best team this year was Luka Doncic. Personally? Luka Doncic is a superstar to me.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

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terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link

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Clay, Thursday, 21 May 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

For you to sit there, Max Kellerman, and look me in the eye and say that Babe Ruth, a dear dear friend of mine, could not play into today's game is blasphemous....preposterous...things of that nature

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

hello caller you are on the air

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

To me, Luka Doncic has the potential to be a superstar. He's certainly a star player. We could move this to the understandably moribund Regular Degular part II thread.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

he was one of the best offensive players in the nba this year so he may have reached superstar status

call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link

if there was no baseball strike back then, MJ would've threepeated the world series

maffew12, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

luka got enough votes to start in the all-star game and also he rules and is a superstar fin

Clay, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

Arguing that Luka is not a superstar? That is special.

some vast airy pantaloon is required (PBKR), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Is Joe Flacco elite?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

Finished this morning--haven't caught up with all the posting.

-- Jordan's kids showed up in the final episode; I don't think his wife was ever in it.

-- I know Karl Malone was famously quiet, but I'm surprised with all the time that had passed there was no interview

-- I loved that one thing Phil Jackson said when Rodman disappeared again during the '98 Finals; "It's not a distraction for us, it's a distraction for you"

-- god, the NBA was low-scoring in the late '90s; I know the 3-point shot hadn't taken off yet, but what happened?

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

Idk anything about basketball but Phil Jackson and basically every Bull who's not MJ come across like total mensches in this

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

totally

did krause do an actual interview for the doc? can't remember anything

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

he died in 2017

Spottie, Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

ahh

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

which was very convenient for reinsdorf

Spottie, Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link


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