love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Also the most vulnerable people, the elderly, are the least likely be downloading the app in the first place.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link

they'd get their heads round it quick enough if you had to use an app to vote Tory

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

A few years ago I was in an airport and this old lady came up to me "why are young people on their PHONES all the time". I thought she wanted to grouch about it but no, she genuinley didn't know what smartphones were. Not saying that's representative but she's bound not to be the only one, either.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 09:43 (three years ago) link

I figure 'app-shaming' will become a thing; colleagues frowning on others not using the app when others are etc. The extra distrust comes with the app for free.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link

At least now you don't need an app to tell which wankers in your area are tory voters, all doubt is removed when you see who is banging their pot the loudest every thursday evening.

calzino, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link

We've been getting some cunt who gets into his car and blares the horn - from 8:05!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link

I was walking past some grand old and new posh houses near the rectory last thursday and some of demented these pot bangers were staring right at me as i walked past them with dog and a can in my hand. i was waiting for the Donald Sutherland in Invasion of The Bodysnatchers pointing thing to happen!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

Might still have a vuvuzela knocking about from the 2010 World Cup to really show my appreciation.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

I want to see roy castle tap-dancing with his trumpet!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

that might be difficult...

koogs, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

not for the lack of dedication!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

It's definitely a vision of what the next world will be like!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

Honk if you're Horny for Health Heroes

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

fond memories of the early years of the lockdown when this was just an empty but essentially benign gesture

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link

Little bit of history here: UK govt just sold bonds at a negative yield for the first time ever. £3.75bn of conventional 3 year bonds (eg not index-linked) at -0.003%.
Investors literally paying the government to take their money… pic.twitter.com/YSIqoBBe5I

— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) May 20, 2020

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link

What we effectively have here is the wages of millions of people being paid by investors who think that they will lose even more money putting that cash pretty much anywhere else. I'm guessing these are mostly investments being made on behalf of pensioners or people who will be pensioners soon.

The potential for the government to do a lot more with that cash in the reconstruction is enormous but that's the point at which they will suddenly decide enough is enough.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

"If we are to harvest British fruit and vegetables this year, we need an army of people to help."

The Prince of Wales has shared a message in support of the #PickForBritain campaign. 🍓🍏🍅@DefraGovUK pic.twitter.com/a7WIDYo7E0

— Clarence House (@ClarenceHouse) May 19, 2020

In North Korea he would be joining us to pick the crops amirite

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link

Seems short-sighted to have so many children unable to go to school and so many soft fruits that need to be picked and not have identified a perfect Uzbek-style solution to kill two birds with one stone.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:21 (three years ago) link

*languidly indicating a chimney that could also do with sweeping*

mark s, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link

PM says he's thought a lot about the NHS surcharge for non EEA staff to use the health service. Acknowledges he was just treated by someone who would have had to pay it! Who saved his life.

Johnson: "I do think that is the right way forward."

He said it makes money. #PMQs

— Kate Proctor (@Kate_M_Proctor) May 20, 2020

gyac, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

Charles should tread carefully here, his younger brother got into serious trouble with the feds for asking children to harvest his plums.

calzino, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

some other things which make money

*charging relatives of executed political prisoners for the cost of the bullet
*melted down gold teeth
*selling fighter jets to authoritarian regimes, oh hang on

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

Lol @ this interview:

Kerala's "rockstar" Health Minister @shailajateacher sharing the state's #COVID19 story live on BBC World News 🔥

(Part 1/3) pic.twitter.com/GM8VI8hlLO

— Siddharth🌹 (@DearthOfSid) May 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

This interviewer can't believe Kerala are not actually fucking this up like we are.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

Hilariously, the call has gone out to Conservative MPs to dash back to the House of Commons from pandemic isolation in their homes to give the PM moral support in a Chamber that was quiet as a graveyard during Sir Keir’s last two attacks.

A little bit of Darwin Awards, as a treat.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

Lol:

MPs have just voted by 350 to 258, govt majority 92, to discontinue remote participation in Commons on 2 June pic.twitter.com/m5U4UCdpbc

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) May 20, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

time to start a parliamentary dead pool lads

a denim head and an aficionado of Japanese craftsmanship (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

are MPs gonna be allowed to stay at home if they don't think it's safe?

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

I’m at Clapham Junction and I have never seen anything like it for quiet. Real Sunday 2am stuff.

Not a massive amount of mask wearing. Possibly linked to the “govt advice is to consider wearing a mask” announcements.

stet, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

i've still not worn one - from everything i'd heard the govt lack of buying PPE tied with non medical stuff buying all the masks up meant there weren't enough for people who genuinely needed them so it was selfish as fuck for me to go buy one when i'm socially isolating at home, not getting close to anyone when i do go out and so dont need it.... but then today i see on my socials someone posting that not wearing a mask when you go out is "a sign of privilege". so yeah confused.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

people will say anything to feel superior

imago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

that said if you're going to mix with people a mask isn't a bad idea idk, but if you're steering clear it's probably an indulgence. of course if we were all given proper medical-grade masks then it'd be much easier and almost second-nature to do it regardless

imago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

Medical-grade protects you, even a cloth face covering helps protect others is what I understand about it. And especially in confined spaces like buses

stet, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

not wearing a mask when you go out is "a sign of privilege".

That's so much utterly backwards nonsense. I actually don't know where to get a mask. Are there shops stocking them? I suppose I could look on Amazon but that's because I have an internet connection and a credit card.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

I don't like the language of 'provilege' especially but, and this also shouldn't need saying, having to go out is clearly not something everyone can reasonably avoid just because they don't have a mask.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

Provilege? Don't know the meaning of the word.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

Absolutely recommend a keffiyah / shemagh if you want to simultaneously have some level of protection without taking PPE away from healthcare providers and look like you're in the PLO.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

or joining The Locust

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

obv

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

I did enjoy the terror1st chic effect when attempting to wear a scarf over my face one time but it kept falling down and defeating the whole purpose.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Hooligan chic I should say. People did actually seem to be giving me a wider berth.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

Get some military surplus scrim scarf in olive paired with a black beret for the ira colour party look

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

An unmasked/ungloved person assuming privilege is a real thing though - particularly if they’re just breezing on through, pausing only to get annoyed at people who are dressed for protection, who are judged to be unclean or in the way. The privilege is assuming others will make way for you. Context was seeing obnoxious middle aged/class man going apeshit at a BAME youth for not backing himself up fast enough when MCW was trying to pass, and that being one of a few witnessed interactions of that type.

santa clause four (suzy), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

Denmark is giving out masks on public transport.

The United States is arresting/macing/tazing people who don’t look rich and don’t wear masks.

So there’s a couple of options the UK could take.

In seriousness the UK attitude on masks (this thread, general public, the government) seems to be a global outlier.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

next to no one is wearing masks here

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

we weren't hit like the uk mind

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

Right but it seems like no one is wearing them in the uk and most people wouldn’t know where to get one.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

My wife ordered us tailor made masks which I'm sure are medically useless but look really cool and I'm sure would at least prevent me breathing on people if I'd set foot in a building that wasn't mine for the past month and a half.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

i ordered some from etsy like a month ago and they have yet to arrive so i made a janky one out of a shirt.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

“Medically useless” is the thing though. They’re not medically useless for the people you’re sharing a lift/bus/tube with.

There are so many de facto experiments being conducted right now on what works in practice and I’m sure we’ll find out if mask wearing/closing parks/2m *actually *worked to slow the spread in a few months. But in the meantime there’s very good lab based evidence that they help. A tiny bit of leadership here from the uk govt would have quickly had vendors selling masks on every corner like they have elsewhere.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link


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