The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

yeah i would actually be pretty into a couple of hours of deep dive into the kobe-shaq feud years

really we need a doc that speaks honestly about how completely psychotic kobe was

Hour length 30 for 30 would be fine

I have watched through episode 8. Still great. Even my wife is enjoying it. Love the recurring theme of psycho Jordan taking slights/perceived slights and turning them into motivation, including his present-day rude dismissal of his peers. Even comparing a HOFer like Drexler to him was offensive to Jordan. And poor Dan Majerle. Also that rookie that scored 37 on him in the regular season and then Jordan torched him the next game for 36 in the first half.

One interesting scene was when present-day Jordan asks to stop the interview asking him how hard he was on his teammates. It almost seemed like he was reflecting on or realizing how much of a dick he had been and got emotional about maybe the cost of it, but that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns throughout the documentary in all of the present-day interviews.

It made me wonder if Jordan has ever gone through therapy or if he would just be impervious to it.

The Artest rib injury thing was reported at the time.

Apparently Jordan wasn’t mad about it because he respected Artest

I’ve always thought it probably contributed to the knee injury MJ had the first year

that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns

public personality vs private personality. haven't seen that part (I'm on ep#4), but I'm guessing his mask dropped there briefly. Hence ending the interview so he could put it back on.

as usual he was a dick about it, but totally with MJ about not giving Cartwright the ball. Man he was painful to watch.

Doubt anyone reading this thread other than me couldn't watch the original broadcasts, but all episodes can now be watched for free via the ESPN app.

This is about as nostalgic as nostalgic gets, for me. Other than friends/family/community, there's nothing else that was so prevalent throughout my entire childhood than MJ and the Bulls (aged 6 his rookie year, 20 for last title).

how many home foundations have been torn asunder from ppl with good home theaters having Pippen's voice bellow thru their subwoofers

haha, his voice is amazing

1st time I was ever allowed to be on my own in Chicago was going to 2nd Championship celebration in Grant Park. Took the train in, just me and my friend. By the time we got there was already an enormous swarm of people. Never seen that many people in person before or since. Had to climb up on base of lightpost just to get a glimpse of them on the stage wayyyy in the distance. Crazy how parsimonious Reinsdorf was (is!!) when you think about Bulls going from getting outdrawn at Chicago Stadium by the friggin indoor soccer team to being the most popular sports club in the world in less than a decade. If eventually the Bulls and White Sox have different owners, I wonder if Sox would be able to make it w/o Bulls subsidizing them (btw if you ever want to get an authentic Chicago experience, go to a Sox game instead of Cubs. The accents you'll hear are alone worth the price of admission).

lmao at this Magic Johnson article about "who could've made it in Jordan's era", it's just the 5 best current NBA players. that's so on brand.

has any 90s dude said something along the lines of "like with all athletic endeavors, basketball skills, training regimens, diets, knowledge/strategy have evolved since I played. Just like we took what we saw watching NBA guys growing up and took it to a new level, current players are playing at a base level well beyond ours. The avg player now would be a superstar if he time-traveled back 30 years"?? Or is Ego just too much of a beast for that to happen, at least for those who were stars in their era?

there was a baseball player who said something like "Babe Ruth would never make it out of the minors if he played today" and it got some backlash but he was definitely right

he’d probably make a pretty good DH for somebody

dunno about that

https://theaceofspaeder.com/2019/01/24/walter-johnson-probably-threw-88-mph/

The avg player now would be a superstar if he time-traveled back 30 years"

Javale McGee, Superstar.

my next door neighbor runs the maintenance crew at the white sox spring trainng facility nearby. we've become friends and he gets us into games and such. Gave fam and me an in depth tour of the whole facility last year and he showed us reinsd0rfs office. we sat on the couches in there for 10 minutes or so and talked. my kids were messing around at at his desk and my youngest (3) grabbed his half smoked cigar that was leaning on an ash tray. had to scramble to pry it out of his hands and place the mangled cigar back. i wonder what his reaction was to seeing it. that's my story.

lol nice. The head groundskeeper at Sox Park in Chicago, Roger Bossard, is famous. Well, as famous as a groundskeeper can get.

aka The Sodfather

haha had no idea

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there was a baseball player who said something like "Babe Ruth would never make it out of the minors if he played today" and it got some backlash but he was definitely right

The guy with the best reflexes in the world in 1930 would have very good reflexes today

but you cant play with your pockets full of hot dogs now

is it possible to calculate pitch velocity based on old footage?

handing ruth one of those skinny handle bats they got now instead of a maple log would be interesting to see

I think people are underestimating the leap in talent the league had in the 90s. Rony Seikaly and Nikola Vucevic are basically the same guy and are having the same careers.

In the 80s seikaly probably is considered a superstar for a while but in the 90s people thought he was just a stat padder

these conversations are crazy-making, obviouslyy if you zapped Babe Ruth c. 1927 into today's game he'd be toast, but "if he were alive today" he'd be up to speed on the modern game, conditioned differently etc., and he would dominate.

The league has a lot of stars. The best player on the 11th best team is generally considered a star player. In my world, a superstar is more like a consensus top 5 player in the league over at least five consecutive seasons, the type of player kids everywhere idolize and pretend to be, whose jersey still gets worn by fans a decade after they retire. You know, a superstar. Not Rony Seikaly.

yay literally my least favorite sports discussion topic

yeah i can't really get worked up about it

babe ruth had no jumper

otm

The league has a lot of stars. The best player on the 11th best team is generally considered a star player. In my world, a superstar is more like a consensus top 5 player in the league over at least five consecutive seasons, the type of player kids /everywhere/ idolize and pretend to be, whose jersey still gets worn by fans a decade after they retire. You know, a /super/star. Not Rony Seikaly.

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For you to sit there, Max Kellerman, and look me in the eye and say that Babe Ruth, a dear dear friend of mine, could not play into today's game is blasphemous....preposterous...things of that nature

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To me, Luka Doncic has the potential to be a superstar. He's certainly a star player. We could move this to the understandably moribund Regular Degular part II thread.

he was one of the best offensive players in the nba this year so he may have reached superstar status

if there was no baseball strike back then, MJ would've threepeated the world series

luka got enough votes to start in the all-star game and also he rules and is a superstar fin

Arguing that Luka is not a superstar? That is special.

Is Joe Flacco elite?