like I get side-eyeing articles written by people who have a bad recent track record, but by that rubric, I could just as easily piss on Greenwald's as well
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
for a second i thought "Can we hear this from someone who doesn't have a history of ratting out confidential sources to the FBI maybe" was a reference to greenwald lol
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
who the hell is this delicious troll named trevor phillips? Is he cute? Does he comment on music threads? I'm delighted to meet him.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link
you ppl really never get tired of this
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link
true, I never get tired of criticizing bad journalism
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link
or men who say good female bloggers are "in bed" with sources, especially when he can't capitalize his name
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
That's surprising when you're endorsing work from a blogger who again, hands her damn sources over to the FBI lmao.
rather than doing the jedi-handwave method of saying "she did this thing I don't agree with so the whole article is invalid".
Is this not exactly what you and basically everyone in this thread has been doing with Greenwald since 2013? And not for something he did but rather the tone in which he writes articles on his website and messages on twitter??
Alfred, you don't even capitalize or punctuate the end of your sentences hon, you're in no position criticize. ;)
― Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
My last post addressed to you I did, and you're the one who missed the comma. I think Greenwald claims those for his own.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link
Are you really using the 10th grade "lol you made a grammar mistake ergo everything you've ever said is suspect" gotcha?
And doing so in a sentence where you omitted a preposition?
God yr dumb
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link
Xpost obv
omg is Trevor Phillips Glenn Greenwald?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link
wouldnt be out of character
― no (Left), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link
I think all of you might be esby
― silby, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link
im esby
― lumen (esby), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link
bring back brodie
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link
bring back banaka
― mh, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
the most absurd part of this is that trump eventually did 'collude' with a foreign power -- ukraine! and he was impeached for that! so it was all completely for nothing.
― treeship., Monday, May 18, 2020 2:30 PM (two days ago)
glenn greenwald also opposed impeaching trump, as i'm sure he'd be happy to explain in a different 2-hour youtube video
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link
Especially when she concludes it with a ghoulish barb against Snowden of all people.Snowden’s a sanctimonious prick “of all people”
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link
or men who say good female bloggers are "in bed" with sources
Oh, come the everloving fuck on. He said "in bed with US intelligence agencies."
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 05:33 (three years ago) link
YouTuber Lindsay Ellis said something tangential about GG the other day on Twitter, and he popped into her mentions like Beetlejuice and accused her of being either illiterate or a liar. He spends an inordinate amount of time name-searching himself so he can look for opportunities.
― Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
🖼
― Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link
can we get him to post here
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
new-era Google metrics makes baiting outsiders really hard :(
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
But we have a lot master baiters around here
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
some of the very best
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
Cool, cool: Richard Esposito, co-author of the Intercept story that landed Reality Winner in federal prison, is now the head of the NYPD's press office.
A co-author of a controversial report at The Intercept that landed its source in prison now works as the head of the New York Police Department’s press office.The former journalist, Richard Esposito, had embedded for a long period inside the NYPD, developing close ties to US police agencies that were clear before The Intercept chose to work with him. However, the news website apparently did not see Esposito’s cop-friendly behavior as disqualifying or even suspicious.Esposito and his longtime friend and colleague, Matthew Cole, a full-time reporter at The Intercept, were co-authors of a 2017 report on National Security Agency allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 US presidential election. The reporters disclosed sensitive information to US government agencies, which led to the outing of their confidential source, former NSA contractor Reality Winner, and her eventual imprisonment for five years.Although this scandalous story was the only piece Esposito published at The Intercept, he was somehow assigned an official company email address as well as an author page that has since been removed from the website without explanation.The same duo, Esposito and Cole, played an integral role in the arrest and imprisonment of another source, CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, several years before they worked with The Intercept.
The former journalist, Richard Esposito, had embedded for a long period inside the NYPD, developing close ties to US police agencies that were clear before The Intercept chose to work with him. However, the news website apparently did not see Esposito’s cop-friendly behavior as disqualifying or even suspicious.
Esposito and his longtime friend and colleague, Matthew Cole, a full-time reporter at The Intercept, were co-authors of a 2017 report on National Security Agency allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 US presidential election. The reporters disclosed sensitive information to US government agencies, which led to the outing of their confidential source, former NSA contractor Reality Winner, and her eventual imprisonment for five years.
Although this scandalous story was the only piece Esposito published at The Intercept, he was somehow assigned an official company email address as well as an author page that has since been removed from the website without explanation.
The same duo, Esposito and Cole, played an integral role in the arrest and imprisonment of another source, CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, several years before they worked with The Intercept.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
Inevitable.
Should the populist left work with the populist right where they have common ground, or shun them? https://t.co/8QcagioB7Z by @ggreenwald— The Intercept (@theintercept) June 25, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
this is so February
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
look at that art lol
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
who are those people
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 25 June 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
Greenwald in Brazil: the right is evil, they send me and my family death threats, they murdered a black trans woman politician friend of ours.Greenwald in the US: maybe Steve Bannon is cool?
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 June 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
a few comments make the duh point that greenwald spends so much time deriding dems for compromising with untrustworthy republicans, instead of his preferred strategy which is apparently compromising with untrustworthy republicans
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
You know what you never hear discussed on the right? Calls to form an alliance with socialists. They’re busy trying to crush us while we debate whether or not we should be friendlier to them.— Sam Sacks (@SamSacks) June 25, 2020
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
Does Greenwald think he’s a member of the “Populist Left”?
― Boring, Maryland, Thursday, 25 June 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
yes
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 June 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
congrats to GG for getting a trump retweet
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 July 2020 05:50 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/business/media/the-intercept-source-reality-winner.html#click=https://t.co/ThcvVKSDwXmore about first look and intercept rly.
― retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link
I'm not defending anyone when I say that I'm not sure what the "news value" is in revisiting when and how they fucked up, which I thought was pretty immediately clear?
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link
In the world of the New York Times, a story doesn't exist until the New York Times covers it. There's your value.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link
that the intercept hugely fucked up was instantly clear, not sure that the details of how emerged immediately tho: when did cole become a police spokesman? beyond smith saying "i obtained" the piece doesn't tell us when the internal discussion came into NYT hands -- maybe it's belated but has this internal discussion been out in the world previously? if not then it's a story
(unperson's point abt the nyt's self-absorbed attitude to newsworthiness is also on point of course, but it's also just a practical feature in the landscape until that particular hegemony is dismantled)
less abstractly: if yr basic political pitch is radical transparency -- which was a v potent pitch and totally remains a worthwhile aim imo -- then rival outlets with contrasting politics will always be eager to publish stories abt how the process of running yr magazine dedicated to radical transparency will (best version) distort and (worst version) radically betray this aim. as with assange (generous reading), the actors delivering radical transparency have often been endlessly deeply fvcking naive politically, abt who can manipulate who and how (and i don't really mean putin here) (or indeed trump and the GOP). it's a big bad gameable world: if you take on the big dark expert forces in making idealism gameable, scornful individualist libetrarian swagger is really only going to take you so far before they really really get up in yr shit and this is what happened here
also: as an exampe of "let's not but we'll say we did", the snowden file getting shuttered -- the radical privatisation of public information -- is indeed "old news" but it's also news barely covered then or now -- and it only gets the tiniest sideswipe here (bcz both sides have too big an interest in its non-coverage)
― mark s, Monday, 14 September 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link
(sorry: esposito is now the police spokesman, not cole)
― mark s, Monday, 14 September 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
Another of its highest-profile hires, the former Topic.com editor Anna Holmes, who left in 2019, told me: “I’ve always admired First Look Media’s stated commitment to free speech, transparency and speaking truth to power. So in that spirit I’ll say this: My tenure there was creatively rewarding — it was also personally and professionally demoralizing.”
daaaamn
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EisIu4ZX0AQpiig?format=jpg&name=small
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
*hits poppers*
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
*galaxy brain throbs*
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
*mounts a Nazi*
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
What the fuck is it with this guy at this point
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link
Glenn Greenwald's savage takedown of @ggreenwald. pic.twitter.com/SvXOR4OUY5— Ken Tremendous (@KenTremendous) October 12, 2020
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 08:02 (three years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10224279063303168&set=gm.3462351267177280
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link
whatever that link is ain't working on my end
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link