The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

pistons in 5 lol nobody saw it comin

gimme a 10 part doc on that series that is just sheed talking trash while smoking blunts plz and ty

detroit did it for the true heads that year. i think that team winning it all gave hope to so many franchises and infused a lot of life into the NBA. then the handchecking rules and steve nash n that brought it all the way back the next couple of seasons.

that's when I came back in the NBA fold, that Pistons squad. totally fell for "well-balanced team takes down superstar duo" narrative.

then Bron single-handedly took them down lol

yo lol

Horace Grant on Michael Jordan: ‘That’s a damn snitch right there’ https://t.co/0nyfj3GEZb

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) May 19, 2020

Re: mythologizing The Shot in real time, I was not prepared for Leo in the locker room telling MJ how “poetic” it was.

Everybody talking about how Jordan treated Horace Grant and Scott Burrell... this Robert Parish anecdote didn't get any run (✍:Jackie MacMullan) https://t.co/RrcI1HqMvO pic.twitter.com/ej9E4XPboU

— Law Murray 🟠 (@LawMurrayTheNU) May 19, 2020

im all in no old jordan rumors now

During what van Gundy called "Camp Con" before Jordan made his comeback to the NBA he was playing a kind of summer league invite with a bunch of players and one of the players invited was Ron Artest. Jordan played his "let me see what this guy is made of" game with Ron Artest, who wasn't on his team, went Rotweiler on Jordan, jumped him and started whaling on him. Breaking a few of Jordan's ribs in the process. Jordan was competitive but Artest was gheto. That said, Artest didn't show the same fierceness when he was challenged by Ben Wallace. He wasn't really a tough guy, he was just against players smaller than him. I have a lot more respect for the "I dont' care how big you are, I'll fight you anyway" attitude, that Nate Robinson has. . . and Artest didn't have that kind of fearlessness, but he was a bad-ass and Artest was the guy who broke Jordan's ribs. I'm pretty sure that's been reported several times now, but it wasn't reported at the time.

Sam Smith, in ""The Jordan Rules"" wrote that Jordan had no respect for Cartwright, told his teammates to keep the ball away from Cartwright in crucial late-game situations (even if coach Doug Collins called a play involving Cartwright), and bellittled the veteran publicly. Cartwright confronted Jordan:

Excerpt: He didn't do or say anything to anybody until late that season, when he told Jordan he needed to talk to him.

There was little small talk exchanged. "I don't like the things I've heard you saying about me," Cartwright told Jordan.

Jordan stared at him.

"If I ever hear again that you're telling guys not to pass me the ball," Cartwright continued, "you will never play basketball again."

That was it. But as Cartwright began to move better after surgery following the 1989-90 season, Jordan began to accept him more.

wtf i completely forgot that parish played for the bulls that year.

one year before paul pearce came in for the celtics. those two eras are so much closer together than i remember them being.

its like rap music from those two eras too

speaking of Artest, if you haevn't seen this yet it's great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GDYOu5jPE4

MJ:"the game of basketball"::LeBron:"things of that nature"

The NBA will do one as it will get hyped huge , but he f-in Kobe/Shaq Lakers don't deserve a documentary like this one. That team got so many wins by screwed up calls, people literally thought the NBA was having the refs throw down the game. The worst was the couple against the Kings, but there was wack calls in the Portland and Indiana series too.

my lingering memories of Kobe Bryant are him **always** getting the call in the last 2 minutes of 4th quarter games

i'm pretty sure the kobe/shaq lakers do not have anything close to the universal appeal of michael jordan.

need at least one ep on the tell me how my ass taste video

Think we’re good on Kobe content until about, say... 2070

yeah i would actually be pretty into a couple of hours of deep dive into the kobe-shaq feud years

really we need a doc that speaks honestly about how completely psychotic kobe was

Hour length 30 for 30 would be fine

I have watched through episode 8. Still great. Even my wife is enjoying it. Love the recurring theme of psycho Jordan taking slights/perceived slights and turning them into motivation, including his present-day rude dismissal of his peers. Even comparing a HOFer like Drexler to him was offensive to Jordan. And poor Dan Majerle. Also that rookie that scored 37 on him in the regular season and then Jordan torched him the next game for 36 in the first half.

One interesting scene was when present-day Jordan asks to stop the interview asking him how hard he was on his teammates. It almost seemed like he was reflecting on or realizing how much of a dick he had been and got emotional about maybe the cost of it, but that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns throughout the documentary in all of the present-day interviews.

It made me wonder if Jordan has ever gone through therapy or if he would just be impervious to it.

The Artest rib injury thing was reported at the time.

Apparently Jordan wasn’t mad about it because he respected Artest

I’ve always thought it probably contributed to the knee injury MJ had the first year

that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns

public personality vs private personality. haven't seen that part (I'm on ep#4), but I'm guessing his mask dropped there briefly. Hence ending the interview so he could put it back on.

as usual he was a dick about it, but totally with MJ about not giving Cartwright the ball. Man he was painful to watch.

Doubt anyone reading this thread other than me couldn't watch the original broadcasts, but all episodes can now be watched for free via the ESPN app.

This is about as nostalgic as nostalgic gets, for me. Other than friends/family/community, there's nothing else that was so prevalent throughout my entire childhood than MJ and the Bulls (aged 6 his rookie year, 20 for last title).

how many home foundations have been torn asunder from ppl with good home theaters having Pippen's voice bellow thru their subwoofers

haha, his voice is amazing

1st time I was ever allowed to be on my own in Chicago was going to 2nd Championship celebration in Grant Park. Took the train in, just me and my friend. By the time we got there was already an enormous swarm of people. Never seen that many people in person before or since. Had to climb up on base of lightpost just to get a glimpse of them on the stage wayyyy in the distance. Crazy how parsimonious Reinsdorf was (is!!) when you think about Bulls going from getting outdrawn at Chicago Stadium by the friggin indoor soccer team to being the most popular sports club in the world in less than a decade. If eventually the Bulls and White Sox have different owners, I wonder if Sox would be able to make it w/o Bulls subsidizing them (btw if you ever want to get an authentic Chicago experience, go to a Sox game instead of Cubs. The accents you'll hear are alone worth the price of admission).

lmao at this Magic Johnson article about "who could've made it in Jordan's era", it's just the 5 best current NBA players. that's so on brand.

has any 90s dude said something along the lines of "like with all athletic endeavors, basketball skills, training regimens, diets, knowledge/strategy have evolved since I played. Just like we took what we saw watching NBA guys growing up and took it to a new level, current players are playing at a base level well beyond ours. The avg player now would be a superstar if he time-traveled back 30 years"?? Or is Ego just too much of a beast for that to happen, at least for those who were stars in their era?

there was a baseball player who said something like "Babe Ruth would never make it out of the minors if he played today" and it got some backlash but he was definitely right

he’d probably make a pretty good DH for somebody

dunno about that

https://theaceofspaeder.com/2019/01/24/walter-johnson-probably-threw-88-mph/

The avg player now would be a superstar if he time-traveled back 30 years"

Javale McGee, Superstar.

my next door neighbor runs the maintenance crew at the white sox spring trainng facility nearby. we've become friends and he gets us into games and such. Gave fam and me an in depth tour of the whole facility last year and he showed us reinsd0rfs office. we sat on the couches in there for 10 minutes or so and talked. my kids were messing around at at his desk and my youngest (3) grabbed his half smoked cigar that was leaning on an ash tray. had to scramble to pry it out of his hands and place the mangled cigar back. i wonder what his reaction was to seeing it. that's my story.

lol nice. The head groundskeeper at Sox Park in Chicago, Roger Bossard, is famous. Well, as famous as a groundskeeper can get.

aka The Sodfather

haha had no idea

The accuracy of how #TheLastDance was edited 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/0ZkzJKAbtP

— Harmonica Lewinskyღ (@_harmonyxo) May 19, 2020

there was a baseball player who said something like "Babe Ruth would never make it out of the minors if he played today" and it got some backlash but he was definitely right

The guy with the best reflexes in the world in 1930 would have very good reflexes today

but you cant play with your pockets full of hot dogs now

is it possible to calculate pitch velocity based on old footage?

handing ruth one of those skinny handle bats they got now instead of a maple log would be interesting to see

I think people are underestimating the leap in talent the league had in the 90s. Rony Seikaly and Nikola Vucevic are basically the same guy and are having the same careers.