The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

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nice!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link

I just searched ESPN on demand for the Warriors-Cavs game and it turns out there is actually a World Cornhole Championship and it is pretty intense

thank you pandemic

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

If I'm not mistaken one of the competitors is legit holding a weighted cylinder in his non-throwing hand in lieu of a beer can

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

HISSNER/HENDERSON look unstoppable right now

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

ughhh i hate Cornhole

Reminds me of white frat dudes coming to Raider tailgates with their cornhole games & horseshoes & beer pong & it’s like gtfo with yr East Coast college tailgate you fuckin nerds we out here DRINKING & SITTING & SNACKING dont fuck shit up with your activities

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

Thought cornhole was a Midwestern thing. The name of it at least. "Bags" if you're an uppity Atlantic seaboard frat guy.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

this is an aside but i have few tailgating stories so i'll share this one--many years ago i attended an offseason friendly match featuring celtic fc vs. liverpool in connecticut. i went with my friend and his brother who were both hardcore celtic supporters and hardcore liverpool haters (as they also supported everton in the premier league). i had no emotional stakes in any of this, just wanted to have a nice time.

so we show up to the stadium and park next to these liverpool fans who have a beautiful setup, with grills and a bunch of meats and tasty-looking things. because we are dirtbags barely removed from college the only thing we have is an 18-pack of coors light. the disparity is obvious to anyone looking. the liverpool fans are very nice and ask us if we want any food, but we are obligated to reject them and sullenly drink coors light. i have no idea what we actually ate or even if we did eat. anyway, the evening progressed from there.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

shoutout to deadbeats who are invited to tailgates and bring a 12 pack of crappy fuckin budweiser clamato beer, and then drink all your good beer

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

back on topic with an actual question i have

do you think any athlete has ever suffered champagne-blindness

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link

also: i have a much deeper appreciation for MJ as a player despite going through my teens and 20s knowing and seeing him as the GOAT

seeing it close up & hearing him talk about hiw own playing really blew my idea of him wide open

his brain was just working non stop!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

In 1998 I sent Michael Jordan an advanced copy of my “From the Soul of Man” album. Who knew “Days Like This” was his pre-game hype song though. 😆 #TheLastDance #RealR&B

— Kenny Lattimore (@kennylattimore) May 18, 2020

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

Michael Jordan’s daughter lol 😂 pic.twitter.com/geTP7Zial9

— @executiveschair (@executiveschair) May 19, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Bet he's looking forward to the upcoming Kem album.

Andy K, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

The NBA will do one as it will get hyped huge , but he f-in Kobe/Shaq Lakers don't deserve a documentary like this one. That team got so many wins by screwed up calls, people literally thought the NBA was having the refs throw down the game. The worst was the couple against the Kings, but there was wack calls in the Portland and Indiana series too.

That crap and the phantom fouls the Knicks got against the Pacers pretty much when I checked out following the NBA on any regular basis.

earlnash, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

I will go to my grave thinking the league office was in the sack with those lakers teams and literally nothing can convince me otherwise salut

Clay, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

From the beginning it was clear that the series was leading up to The Shot but once we got there I was underwhelmed. Maybe because we’d seen so many other actual buzzer-beaters with more of a backstory to them - Jordan dishing to Paxson to win “the right way”, Kerr’s shot that established him as a postseason rock, Kukoc’s shot that Pippen thought should have been his, etc. Or maybe I’m just irritated at the likes of Costas mythologizing this shit in real time during the broadcast.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

xp 4 ever. portland and sacto both got mugged by the refs.

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

nothing was more satisfying than the pistons wiping the floor with the lakers in 03, greatest feeling of comeuppance in my life probably? Danced all damn night

Clay, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

everyone picked the lakers and then they just got freakin housed lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

pistons in 5 lol nobody saw it comin

Clay, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

gimme a 10 part doc on that series that is just sheed talking trash while smoking blunts plz and ty

Clay, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

detroit did it for the true heads that year. i think that team winning it all gave hope to so many franchises and infused a lot of life into the NBA. then the handchecking rules and steve nash n that brought it all the way back the next couple of seasons.

Spottie, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

that's when I came back in the NBA fold, that Pistons squad. totally fell for "well-balanced team takes down superstar duo" narrative.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

then Bron single-handedly took them down lol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

yo lol

Horace Grant on Michael Jordan: ‘That’s a damn snitch right there’ https://t.co/0nyfj3GEZb

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) May 19, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

Re: mythologizing The Shot in real time, I was not prepared for Leo in the locker room telling MJ how “poetic” it was.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

Everybody talking about how Jordan treated Horace Grant and Scott Burrell... this Robert Parish anecdote didn't get any run (✍:Jackie MacMullan) https://t.co/RrcI1HqMvO pic.twitter.com/ej9E4XPboU

— Law Murray 🟠 (@LawMurrayTheNU) May 19, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link

im all in no old jordan rumors now

During what van Gundy called "Camp Con" before Jordan made his comeback to the NBA he was playing a kind of summer league invite with a bunch of players and one of the players invited was Ron Artest. Jordan played his "let me see what this guy is made of" game with Ron Artest, who wasn't on his team, went Rotweiler on Jordan, jumped him and started whaling on him. Breaking a few of Jordan's ribs in the process. Jordan was competitive but Artest was gheto. That said, Artest didn't show the same fierceness when he was challenged by Ben Wallace. He wasn't really a tough guy, he was just against players smaller than him. I have a lot more respect for the "I dont' care how big you are, I'll fight you anyway" attitude, that Nate Robinson has. . . and Artest didn't have that kind of fearlessness, but he was a bad-ass and Artest was the guy who broke Jordan's ribs. I'm pretty sure that's been reported several times now, but it wasn't reported at the time.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link

Sam Smith, in ""The Jordan Rules"" wrote that Jordan had no respect for Cartwright, told his teammates to keep the ball away from Cartwright in crucial late-game situations (even if coach Doug Collins called a play involving Cartwright), and bellittled the veteran publicly. Cartwright confronted Jordan:

Excerpt: He didn't do or say anything to anybody until late that season, when he told Jordan he needed to talk to him.

There was little small talk exchanged. "I don't like the things I've heard you saying about me," Cartwright told Jordan.

Jordan stared at him.

"If I ever hear again that you're telling guys not to pass me the ball," Cartwright continued, "you will never play basketball again."

That was it. But as Cartwright began to move better after surgery following the 1989-90 season, Jordan began to accept him more.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link

wtf i completely forgot that parish played for the bulls that year.

one year before paul pearce came in for the celtics. those two eras are so much closer together than i remember them being.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link

its like rap music from those two eras too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

speaking of Artest, if you haevn't seen this yet it's great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GDYOu5jPE4

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

MJ:"the game of basketball"::LeBron:"things of that nature"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link

The NBA will do one as it will get hyped huge , but he f-in Kobe/Shaq Lakers don't deserve a documentary like this one. That team got so many wins by screwed up calls, people literally thought the NBA was having the refs throw down the game. The worst was the couple against the Kings, but there was wack calls in the Portland and Indiana series too.

my lingering memories of Kobe Bryant are him **always** getting the call in the last 2 minutes of 4th quarter games

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

i'm pretty sure the kobe/shaq lakers do not have anything close to the universal appeal of michael jordan.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

need at least one ep on the tell me how my ass taste video

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

Think we’re good on Kobe content until about, say... 2070

Spottie, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

yeah i would actually be pretty into a couple of hours of deep dive into the kobe-shaq feud years

Clay, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

really we need a doc that speaks honestly about how completely psychotic kobe was

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link

Hour length 30 for 30 would be fine

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

I have watched through episode 8. Still great. Even my wife is enjoying it. Love the recurring theme of psycho Jordan taking slights/perceived slights and turning them into motivation, including his present-day rude dismissal of his peers. Even comparing a HOFer like Drexler to him was offensive to Jordan. And poor Dan Majerle. Also that rookie that scored 37 on him in the regular season and then Jordan torched him the next game for 36 in the first half.

One interesting scene was when present-day Jordan asks to stop the interview asking him how hard he was on his teammates. It almost seemed like he was reflecting on or realizing how much of a dick he had been and got emotional about maybe the cost of it, but that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns throughout the documentary in all of the present-day interviews.

It made me wonder if Jordan has ever gone through therapy or if he would just be impervious to it.

Laziest Sybarite in the World (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

The Artest rib injury thing was reported at the time.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

Apparently Jordan wasn’t mad about it because he respected Artest

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

I’ve always thought it probably contributed to the knee injury MJ had the first year

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

that seems at odds with his personality and the way he generally seems to have stuck to his guns

public personality vs private personality. haven't seen that part (I'm on ep#4), but I'm guessing his mask dropped there briefly. Hence ending the interview so he could put it back on.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

as usual he was a dick about it, but totally with MJ about not giving Cartwright the ball. Man he was painful to watch.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Doubt anyone reading this thread other than me couldn't watch the original broadcasts, but all episodes can now be watched for free via the ESPN app.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

This is about as nostalgic as nostalgic gets, for me. Other than friends/family/community, there's nothing else that was so prevalent throughout my entire childhood than MJ and the Bulls (aged 6 his rookie year, 20 for last title).

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

how many home foundations have been torn asunder from ppl with good home theaters having Pippen's voice bellow thru their subwoofers

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link


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