Joy Division: Classic Or Dud?

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Are we just posting garbage covers of Joy Division on death anniversary day?

well now we are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ien9FVOfYWQ

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

jk i love that cover and think it rules

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

Kinda crazy he was only 23.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Monday, 18 May 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

the only joy divsion/new order cover far as I'm concerned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1MbL4NYf0

dan selzer, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

I'll also rep for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRX7CqLvO9o

sleeve, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

What about?
https://youtu.be/3YthRnraF-s

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YthRnraF-s

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

Will stan for Low’s cover of Transmission.

that's not my post, Monday, 18 May 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

I've always been partial to this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZwXCDqlE9I

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

Kinda crazy he was only 23.

I'm a passive JD fan -- I like them fine, they didn't change my life, I never listen to them on purpose but when i do hear them I think "yes, they were onto something' -- but it's this that makes me sad for them in complicated ways. there is a sense in which I feel that their legacy -- the shadow it casts -- diminishes the loss of a 23-year-old fellow from a working class family whose lyrics touched greatness, a young father without a sense for how to deal with the strains of life & how to live it. that was a person, not a giant; that was a kid, not a visionary. this perspective, for me, enriches the work, when i hear it.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

My thread was more well-intentioned than well-intended.
And all this time seems to have made every link/video a blank.
But I did this: Best Metal Joy Division Cover

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

The photos from his works do up-thread are so great.

Maresn3st, Monday, 18 May 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

A couple of Toronto-specific posts have shown up on my FB wall the past few days, about how they were scheduled to play here May 25 at the Edge. (One of the FB comments: "That was my bartender shift. It changed everything.")

http://phildellio.tripod.com/edge.jpg

Not sure how readable that is. That would've been when I went to club shows constantly--positive I was at the June 9 Cramps show, but I doubt I'd even heard of Joy Division yet.

clemenza, Monday, 25 May 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Thank You clemenza

| (Latham Green), Monday, 20 July 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

lol i'm listening to 'transmission' for the first time since i was a teenager and i really did not appreciate this music at the time, just blinding

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

Good tune.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

an old friend on facebook was looking for recommendations of songs, basically in the vein of "peter murphy goes mystical" so i was going back through some tunes i hadn't listened to in a long time. i was always meh about joy division when i was in my late teens / early twenties (it was de rigueur for a radiohead fan to like joy division). i put them away and got into new order in my late 20s / early 30s and haven't gone back to joy division, but based on my response to "transmission" i think i'm in for a treat if i listen to those albums again.

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

it's their best song. give "isolation" a shot, too

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link

and "Disorder"

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 14 December 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link

Yeah, transmission is a classic but so are several others

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 December 2020 03:49 (three years ago) link

i like joy division because stings cousin is not singing as he ruins it with new order and electronic and the songs he sings for 808 state and the chemical brothers!

xzanfar, Monday, 14 December 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

i like joy division because stings cousin is not singing as he ruins it with new order and electronic and the songs he sings for 808 state and the chemical brothers!


Ok

Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 December 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link

JD were titanic for me in high school, I was just barely the right age to read the obituary review for Still that came out in Creem

I don't really listen that much these days but when I do I go for the "Warsaw" demos or side 1 of Still, I like knowing that the more produced stuff is waiting there towards the end of my life like an old friend

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Monday, 14 December 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

they are so fucking awesome

brimstead, Monday, 14 December 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

I was just the right age, 15, when Curtis died, the time of life when music makes its maximum impact on the brain. Some of my peers were obsessed by JD. I was a moderate obsessive, only listening to Closer every day for about a year. This was an era when there was so much original music coming out that I still feel I am catching up with it all 40 years later. Added to that there was Lennon's death, opening up the Beatles and their 60s peers to us. So much great music all came with the force of a train. But JD still managed to stand out as remarkable.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

Not jd but the New Order peel session with "turn the heater on" is truly amazing

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

You are right, music that stabs you inyouth always holds your soul throughout life

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

as someone who really likes joy division would it be a good idea to see "peter hook and the light" play the songs of joy division

https://post-punk.com/peter-hook-and-the-light-announce-joy-division-a-celebration-north-american-dates-for-2022/amp/

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 22 October 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

there are a ton of videos of his performances on youtube if you want to get an idea. his versions are very faithful but his singing isn't the strongest.

ufo, Friday, 22 October 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

I've been to a couple of those shows where Hook does Joy Division and/or New Order songs. They were fun.

JRN, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Call back to the first response itt:

I've been lucky enough to see certain shows from those now gone, but it's all perspective, sometimes right time right place. My friend ML, visiting the UK in 1979, got to see Joy Division. He retold the story on FB a few hours back, and I'm forever happy he got to see them. pic.twitter.com/pfbV4KJ5AT

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) May 17, 2022

hell yeah. that's so cool. there are bands where you're witnessing something that later strikes you as an amazing moments, and then there are those rare, perfect music/listener moments where it is a perfect match, it is clear and shining and undeniable from the very start. love it

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 03:48 (one year ago) link

wonderful story

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 08:18 (one year ago) link

Yes, good story, although I have to say that what I was most taken by was the revelation that OMD (of all people) used to take to the stage dressed like a proto-Polyphonic Spree.

Vast Halo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

OMD went down some interesting sartorial avenues before settling on their look.

https://www.electricity-club.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/omd-pretend1.png

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

whoah.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

anniversary of Ian's passing btw.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

I love how Paul Humphreys transformed from Hawkwind drummer to bank clerk.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Difficult to think of "Peter Hook" and "fun" in the same sentence.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

Thought the revive was to do with this... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/18/new-order-singer-criticises-ludicrous-nhs-mental-health-waiting-lists

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

there's this Dutch JD cover band called Joy Division Undercover and they kinda rule IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwmQMekyHJc

StanM, Monday, 23 May 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

That's kinda cool.

This could be an alternate timeline where IC gave up music, moved to Amsterdam to open his bookshop with Annik then decided to play some old songs with a bunch of younger musicians 40-odd years later.

Maresn3st, Monday, 23 May 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

i can not say i hate them and they did not put out much but thank GOD stings cousin bernard did not sing leads on this as he ruined new order and electronic and his guest vocals with 808 state and chemical brothers!

xzanfar, Monday, 23 May 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

Band lacks JD's feverish pulse, but damn that singer is uncanny.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

xp lol... well it is definitely hard to think of him singing most JD material, though "Ceremony" is about my favorite thing ever

i was trying to find among the many New Order threads a recently (i think) pasted grudgingly positive review talking about Barney's lyrics. Where was that?

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

wow that singer gets freakishly close to the Curtis croon, drummer is nowhere close to Morris tho

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

Then again, who is close to Morris?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

xpost IIRC, there is someone on this board who considers Sumner one of the greatest lyricists of his generation...

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link


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