defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

part 1 outlined the "interference," which, i mean, i don't think that is why trump won. part 2 outlined "obstruction" but there wasn't an underlying crime he was covering up related to russia; he was covering up a host of crimes unrelated to russia, because he is a career criminal.

the investigation should have been about trump's finances, not "election interference." the "russian troll farms" were at best amplifying narratives generated by our own right wing media. and there is yet no direct evidence that russia was behind the email hacks. and even if they were why is that connected to trump?

putting russia at the center of this whole thing just muddled the issue, and it did seem like it arose because certain actors in the government wanted to exploit opposition to trump by directing that energy toward their own geopolitcal aims.

Here is a long, detailed dismantling of Greenwald's tendentious horseshit. I don't expect anyone here to read it, but it exists.

Last week, Glenn Greenwald did a podcast defending Bill Barr’s efforts to overturn the prosecution of Mike Flynn (here’s a transcript; the italicized language below is my correction of that transcript). A whole slew of people wrote me in alarm over some of the claims he made in it. After some reflection, I decided to do a post showing how the public record that Glenn claims to have consulted in his podcast at least undermines some of his claims, and in places utterly refutes it.

Greenwald responded to a Wheeler post on Twitter with such a self-absorbed, defensive ad hom, god he is such an asshole sometimes.

Doesn't deserve the way he's been treated by Jair Bolsonaro admin, but he shoots himself in the foot both here and his commentary on Russiagate

Here is a long, detailed dismantling of Greenwald's tendentious horseshit. I don't expect anyone here to read it, but it exists.

Can we hear this from someone who doesn't have a history of ratting out confidential sources to the FBI maybe? Those in bed with US intelligence agencies are rarely honest or objective about their historical abuses of power and that tedious diatribe from Wheeler is no exception. Especially when she concludes it with a ghoulish barb against Snowden of all people.

you could, y'know, actually look at the sources she cites (many of which are links to government and court records) and actually determine if her claims are backed by her sources, rather than doing the jedi-handwave method of saying "she did this thing I don't agree with so the whole article is invalid".

besides, most of the facts in that takedown could be obtained by anybody with a Google account.

like I get side-eyeing articles written by people who have a bad recent track record, but by that rubric, I could just as easily piss on Greenwald's as well

for a second i thought "Can we hear this from someone who doesn't have a history of ratting out confidential sources to the FBI maybe" was a reference to greenwald lol

who the hell is this delicious troll named trevor phillips? Is he cute? Does he comment on music threads? I'm delighted to meet him.

you ppl really never get tired of this

true, I never get tired of criticizing bad journalism

or men who say good female bloggers are "in bed" with sources, especially when he can't capitalize his name

true, I never get tired of criticizing bad journalism

That's surprising when you're endorsing work from a blogger who again, hands her damn sources over to the FBI lmao.

rather than doing the jedi-handwave method of saying "she did this thing I don't agree with so the whole article is invalid".

Is this not exactly what you and basically everyone in this thread has been doing with Greenwald since 2013? And not for something he did but rather the tone in which he writes articles on his website and messages on twitter??

Alfred, you don't even capitalize or punctuate the end of your sentences hon, you're in no position criticize. ;)

My last post addressed to you I did, and you're the one who missed the comma. I think Greenwald claims those for his own.

Are you really using the 10th grade "lol you made a grammar mistake ergo everything you've ever said is suspect" gotcha?

And doing so in a sentence where you omitted a preposition?

God yr dumb

Xpost obv

omg is Trevor Phillips Glenn Greenwald?

wouldnt be out of character

I think all of you might be esby

im esby

bring back brodie

bring back banaka

the most absurd part of this is that trump eventually did 'collude' with a foreign power -- ukraine! and he was impeached for that! so it was all completely for nothing.

― treeship., Monday, May 18, 2020 2:30 PM (two days ago)

glenn greenwald also opposed impeaching trump, as i'm sure he'd be happy to explain in a different 2-hour youtube video

Especially when she concludes it with a ghoulish barb against Snowden of all people.

Snowden’s a sanctimonious prick “of all people”

or men who say good female bloggers are "in bed" with sources

Oh, come the everloving fuck on. He said "in bed with US intelligence agencies."

YouTuber Lindsay Ellis said something tangential about GG the other day on Twitter, and he popped into her mentions like Beetlejuice and accused her of being either illiterate or a liar. He spends an inordinate amount of time name-searching himself so he can look for opportunities.

🖼

YouTuber Lindsay Ellis said something tangential about GG the other day on Twitter, and he popped into her mentions like Beetlejuice and accused her of being either illiterate or a liar. He spends an inordinate amount of time name-searching himself so he can look for opportunities.

can we get him to post here

new-era Google metrics makes baiting outsiders really hard :(

But we have a lot master baiters around here

some of the very best

Cool, cool: Richard Esposito, co-author of the Intercept story that landed Reality Winner in federal prison, is now the head of the NYPD's press office.

A co-author of a controversial report at The Intercept that landed its source in prison now works as the head of the New York Police Department’s press office.

The former journalist, Richard Esposito, had embedded for a long period inside the NYPD, developing close ties to US police agencies that were clear before The Intercept chose to work with him. However, the news website apparently did not see Esposito’s cop-friendly behavior as disqualifying or even suspicious.

Esposito and his longtime friend and colleague, Matthew Cole, a full-time reporter at The Intercept, were co-authors of a 2017 report on National Security Agency allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 US presidential election. The reporters disclosed sensitive information to US government agencies, which led to the outing of their confidential source, former NSA contractor Reality Winner, and her eventual imprisonment for five years.

Although this scandalous story was the only piece Esposito published at The Intercept, he was somehow assigned an official company email address as well as an author page that has since been removed from the website without explanation.

The same duo, Esposito and Cole, played an integral role in the arrest and imprisonment of another source, CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, several years before they worked with The Intercept.

Inevitable.

Should the populist left work with the populist right where they have common ground, or shun them? https://t.co/8QcagioB7Z by @ggreenwald

— The Intercept (@theintercept) June 25, 2020

this is so February

look at that art lol

who are those people

Greenwald in Brazil: the right is evil, they send me and my family death threats, they murdered a black trans woman politician friend of ours.
Greenwald in the US: maybe Steve Bannon is cool?

a few comments make the duh point that greenwald spends so much time deriding dems for compromising with untrustworthy republicans, instead of his preferred strategy which is apparently compromising with untrustworthy republicans

You know what you never hear discussed on the right? Calls to form an alliance with socialists. They’re busy trying to crush us while we debate whether or not we should be friendlier to them.

— Sam Sacks (@SamSacks) June 25, 2020

Does Greenwald think he’s a member of the “Populist Left”?

yes

congrats to GG for getting a trump retweet

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/business/media/the-intercept-source-reality-winner.html#click=https://t.co/ThcvVKSDwX

more about first look and intercept rly.

I'm not defending anyone when I say that I'm not sure what the "news value" is in revisiting when and how they fucked up, which I thought was pretty immediately clear?

In the world of the New York Times, a story doesn't exist until the New York Times covers it. There's your value.

that the intercept hugely fucked up was instantly clear, not sure that the details of how emerged immediately tho: when did cole become a police spokesman? beyond smith saying "i obtained" the piece doesn't tell us when the internal discussion came into NYT hands -- maybe it's belated but has this internal discussion been out in the world previously? if not then it's a story

(unperson's point abt the nyt's self-absorbed attitude to newsworthiness is also on point of course, but it's also just a practical feature in the landscape until that particular hegemony is dismantled)

less abstractly: if yr basic political pitch is radical transparency -- which was a v potent pitch and totally remains a worthwhile aim imo -- then rival outlets with contrasting politics will always be eager to publish stories abt how the process of running yr magazine dedicated to radical transparency will (best version) distort and (worst version) radically betray this aim. as with assange (generous reading), the actors delivering radical transparency have often been endlessly deeply fvcking naive politically, abt who can manipulate who and how (and i don't really mean putin here) (or indeed trump and the GOP). it's a big bad gameable world: if you take on the big dark expert forces in making idealism gameable, scornful individualist libetrarian swagger is really only going to take you so far before they really really get up in yr shit and this is what happened here

also: as an exampe of "let's not but we'll say we did", the snowden file getting shuttered -- the radical privatisation of public information -- is indeed "old news" but it's also news barely covered then or now -- and it only gets the tiniest sideswipe here (bcz both sides have too big an interest in its non-coverage)

(sorry: esposito is now the police spokesman, not cole)

Another of its highest-profile hires, the former Topic.com editor Anna Holmes, who left in 2019, told me: “I’ve always admired First Look Media’s stated commitment to free speech, transparency and speaking truth to power. So in that spirit I’ll say this: My tenure there was creatively rewarding — it was also personally and professionally demoralizing.”

daaaamn

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EisIu4ZX0AQpiig?format=jpg&name=small

*hits poppers*