the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

the best dub-techno-cum-dubstep thing i've heard was that mix posted by ... uh ... gutterbreakz?

also if i had to pick 4 tracks from this appleblim mix i'd pick different tracks from tim ...

Yeah I'd also add in Appleblim's Circling for a highpoint of the dubstep allstars mix - i think the midsection suffers from being pretty direction-less (outside of infinity is now)

Which ones vahid?

Still, I'd take Appleblim's mix over just about any of the other Dubstep Allstars releases
Seconded!

i heard dubstep at about 3 diff cafes in west london this weekend. i dont know if this bodes well.

^^Does this mean it needs a subgenre to be exclusive and fresh again?

Hi all. I'm a bit of a latecomer to this party, but I have a few bits and pieces. Is the Roots Of Dubstep mix on Tempa a good primer for the early stuff I have missed? I don't think I've got anything earlier than the Skream album (which I love) and things seem to be going in a more techno-flavoured direction, as per the Appleblim mix and the 2562 album. I'd like to get up to speed on the early south London sound, basically.

Also, what can you tell me about Boxcutter's Oneiric? I have and really like Glyphic, but I'm led to believe it sounds pretty different. Correct?

Probably the first and second "Dubstep Allstars" volumes are more close to what you're looking for ("early south London sound"). Roots of Dubstep has some of that, but also earlier stuff that (ironically) sounds more like 2562 or the Appleblim mix.

OK, thanks. I'll get hold of them then.

the steppas' delight comp on soul jazz is an excellent primer...plus, it's pretty. and yeah appleblim mix seconded

Yeah that Steppas Delight comp looks ace.

oh yeah and both mary anne hobbs compilations are great too - warrior dubz (which is what really got me listening to dubstep) and evangeline

Yeah, all this stuff looks ace. Damn, I've hit my (extremely modest) CD-buying budget for the month, so downloads it is.

afterwards hit up the adele rusko rmx and curse the time u wasted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmRe5j94Ip0

bah zingers law

Appleblim on RA this week is pretty sweet ;-)

Loving Quest's "Forever" and "My Mahogany Love". This guy's stuff is so distinct from everyone else - very bougie in an Adam F "Circles" kinda way. Not a hint of German dub-techno influence, which is a nice change for once.

Xpost. What! RA I love you.

I wish dubstep sounded more like "Armani Versace vs. Mercedes Bentley".

B I N G O B E A T S

Woah, fuckin' A! have to listen to that Appleblim later. I caved and bought Steppas' Delight. Listening to it now, it's very nice and very diverse indeed.

Can we talk about how good the Ital Tek - Cyclical album is? There's a lot of stuff going on here. Not getting enough love, sez me.

it's on my TODO list but i haven't heard it yet.

they had a release on netlab a while ago now, freebie download:

http://inspirebox.com/netlab/audio/nl21-ital-tek-snippets/

Good lord, 08 is Appleblim's year, is it not. That RA podcast was great.

Another interesting note, If Martyn's "All I Have is Memories" is not a good enough track on it's own, try speeding it up by, say 24% or so (without pitch correction) to enter ravey early-jungle mode a la Omni Trio or whoever.

Errrm, maybe on a second listen not as much so as I initially thought.

Agreed on the RA mix, and Dubstep Allstars 6which has had repeated plays for me. Great stuff.

HOW good is this 2562 aerial album? ok im super late i know but my cd took years to arrive. dubstep seems much harder to follow these days then when i first made this post. so many diff little pockets of activity it seems. i didnt like that last dubstep all stars comp much at all.

Can we talk about how good the Ital Tek - Cyclical album is? There's a lot of stuff going on here. Not getting enough love, sez me.

I missed this post the other day but would back this and also suggest that all the ILM dudes who go all cuddlestein whenever there's talk about Orbital check this out, as it's the first example I've seen of someone putting their influence into dubstep structures

Recently checked this out, and Lifted is FUCKING FATNESS.

Old news I'm sure, but I always lag behind scenes a little.

Woah Ramadanman's "Blimey"! Percussive biz. Check http://www.juno.co.uk/products/313302-01.htm"> http://www.juno.co.uk/products/313302-01.htm.

For the billionth time I must wonder why dubstep spent so many years actively avoiding making tracks like these.

Also been enjoying Quest & Silkie's late June Rinse FM show.

i love blimey. the first time i heard it was in fabric in march at 11am or some ungodly hour, pitched down to -6 or whatever by villalobos. the looks on people's faces were priceless.

the old MAH Dubstep Wars show from early 2006 got a repeat last night and is listenagainable:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/maryannehobbs/

ahead of next week when they do it again with people chosen by the people who played the first one.

I'm actually tired of dubstep now. Too many white kids.

oh fuck off

I'm actually tired of dubstep now. Too many white kids.

Should be followed by btw, I'm white.

No okay, maybe the last comment was a little...but there are far too many middle class kids who have 'suddenly discovered this fresh new genre' and they tend to be white. I'm also tired of dubstep because my partner is a mainly dubstep musician and its all he plays. GRRR.

should be followed by btw, I'm middle class

Dom is a dubstep musician? Wow

HAHAHAHA

I must say 'Blimey' is really doing it for me lately, I thank Tim for the recommendation. BTW I'm white and middle class.

yeah 'blimey' is pretty cool. ramadanman is like one of the best producer names ever though right? it's like those muslim dj names my (muslim) friend sara was making everyone think up (u know, eg quran quran, niqabaret voltaire, jihaddaway, halal cool j &c) except actually real.

i'm not white btw!

I tend to think dubstep is at its best and worst ever in 2008. Producers like Quest, Silkie, Ramadanman, Martyn, 2562, Peverelist, Forsaken, Shackleton and Untold are all making quality tunes. It's just they're surrounded by a larger glut of crap wobble than before.

Still, this strikes me as a better situation than c. 2005 where I'd like maybe 5 dubstep tunes tops (hmm - let's see: "Midnite Request Line", "Neverland", "Qawwali", "Broken Home"... I can't even think of a 5th track off the top of my head!). Yes, this is mostly due to the fact that there were just less producers around back then, but it's still hard for me to understand the tendency for dubstep fans to pine nostalgically for this era of privation and scarcity.

Also possible they just like Digital Mystikz a lot.

I really don't understand how anyone could possibly need more than about 3 Loefah or Coki tracks in their lives.

Personally, I get bored after 16 bars.

Indeed all attempts at getting into dubstep prior to may 07 (i.e. seeing Kode 9 live) failed on account of just being exposed to Digital Mystiks / Benga type blocky zzzzzzz music. . . Still don't find anything remotely interesting about it and I could give a shit about people who want to keep things one big wobble-fest, but when I listen to say, Appleblim's recent mixes etc. I find it genuinely exciting.

zomby ftw

the more i hear of dubstep that sounds like it's made by huge Basic Channel fans, the more i like it.

not that this is BC influenced, but i really love this track by http://www.myspace.com/subeena, "Minor", i heard on some Mary Anne Hobbs show. not even sure if it's dubstep, but i want to hear more stuff like this. her other tracks are pretty nice, too.

i hope it's not frowned on to link myspace pages here...

just realized i used the i tag instead of url. i'm just fuckin up left and right. Subeena is the artist, if that isn't apparent.

Add me to the huddled mass mumbling that I didn't initially get the whole early detour things seem to have taken in the 2005 era, although I've recently gotten more into things. I think I had a token few I liked, but kind of remained ignorant of the scene at large. Now I've been trying to go back and read through the Martin Clark dubstep articles on pfm and read old blog entries.

Anyone have any opinions on the Dusk + Blackdown album? I listened to some of it after seeing the video <a href="http://www.vimeo.com/1467214";>here</a> and am kind of intrigued. Like the blackdown mixes off his blog.