Graham Norton's either been stockpiling fake tan or he's got a sunbed in his lockdown house.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
Release Me sounds like that Sheryl Crow Bond theme with Portishead Live in NYC backing
― kinder, Saturday, 16 May 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
(Belgium)
Had a joint watching party over FB but we hadn't realised the TV show wasn't going to be the actual songs, had to hurriedly move to youtube. Ukraine won our 12 points, but Azerbaijan were really close behind.
― emil.y, Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIvaeu6Oxzc
I'm team finland
― nxd, Saturday, 27 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
UK Eurovision 2021 news: Same guy as last year. New song. No you can't hear it yet. No-one cares.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 27 February 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link
From the still I was expecting Finland to be proper metal, not crabcore revival. Not particularly into it, but it is fun.
Ukraine are also entering the same act again, I think last year's song was a bit better but I don't see any other country topping this for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDeMfL8Ib9A
― emil.y, Saturday, 27 February 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
love this
― nxd, Saturday, 27 February 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
«Шум» is great, didn’t know it was another Eurovision entry! “Solovey” was my favourite last year.
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
"Solovey" was great, this is decent, don't think I could make it through a full Go_A album though
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Sunday, 28 February 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
I’m all in for this one as well. imagine this mashing (and moshing!) up the place in a live situation - that wail at the end takes it next level
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 10:50 (three years ago) link
won’t get thru the semis probably tho. the Solovey love wasn’t very wide-spread last year
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 10:51 (three years ago) link
You reckon? Difficult for me to tell as everyone I know adored that one, but I realise my friends probably do not make up the bulk of the Eurovision audience.
― emil.y, Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link
Also, I'm guessing the plan is for Eurovision proper to go ahead this year? Most places seem to be doing better than the UK and even we seem to be managing to roll out vaccinations, so I guess it may be doable?
― emil.y, Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link
it will def go ahead, but most likely scenario will be performances without audience, either in Rotterdam or (more likely) beamed in from all the participating countries.
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
https://eurovision.tv/story/eurovision-2021-determined-yet-realistic-plans-for-may
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link
(this was early Feb, but the socially-distanced audience option is going to be ditched sooner or later)
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link
Thanks, bc.
― emil.y, Sunday, 28 February 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
out of the rest of the entries that are out now I like Israel’s “Set Me Free” by Eden Alene best - it’s one of several Duannabees (who’d have thunk?):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opmTs9uvENIfavourite line so far: “there ain’t no Apocalypse as long as you’re here on my lips” (© Benny Cristo, Czech Republic, 2021)worst by some considerable distance is the German entry, which pre-emptively out-Danishes the Danes with the offensively twee “I Don’t Feel Hate” (good for you, I do). it’s probably all very wink-wink ironic, which makes it all the more punchable. here’s hoping the Danes will withdraw in admiration. they couldn’t possibly bottom this.
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
as we’re preparing to redo the 2020 edition in 2021, the ghost of the 2019 edition is still with us as well:https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-56210143
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 1 March 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
welcome to the contest... Flo Rida:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRAN7AzEKak
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 11 March 2021 07:46 (three years ago) link
UK's entry: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-56349129Not totally shit but it couldn't hold my interest for it's entire running time. The horns make it sound like an Olly Murs song.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
Why don't they get people or songs with personality for the UK entry, ever. I can't remember the last time. This is going to get some random votes here and there and otherwise people will have forgot about it after listening to 15 other tracks and artists that pop more.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link
ain’t half bad as UK entries go. it at least sounds like some run of the mill, slightly outdated UK pop instead of like some shit like it usually does
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
valiant effort by Daði Freyr to catch lightning in a bottle twice:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORDK1XQToAYDaði og Gagnamagnið • 10 Years
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 14 March 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
yeah :(
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
I know Eurovision 2020 didn't really happen, but new thread?
in many ways it’s the same edition: same host city, most of the artists are the same.I could ask une mod to adjust the thread title accordingly, “Eurovision 2020 —-> 2021” or something.
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 06:44 (three years ago) link
should have added a question mark there, it’s a suggestion after all. hope snoball, the thread starter, can shine their light on the matter
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 07:49 (three years ago) link
I can change the title to that if you want, I guess it might make sense? I don't have strong feelings either way.
I found 'Think About Things' fairly cloying, I think this one might be more so.
― emil.y, Monday, 15 March 2021 08:25 (three years ago) link
ESC enthusiasts, cast your votes or vetoes before douze heures or yours is losing game, I say!
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link
I don't have strong feelings either way.
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link
Adding 2021 to the thread title is fine by me. Most countries seem to be sending the same acts, just different songs.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link
what's another year?
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
thanx emil.y!
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 21 March 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
solid post-Netta effort from Russia:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01wa2ChX64
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Sunday, 21 March 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link
France really really reminds me of something else - either that or it got stuck in my head already after two listens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9t_SwPN31s
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Sunday, 21 March 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link
“Шум/Shum”, “Russian Woman” and Azerbaijan’s “Mata Hari” are sort of triangled in my mind:“Шум/Shum” and “Russian Woman” are connected through their use of folk melodies, “Russian Woman” and “Mata Hari” through their Arabic/Anatolian elements, and “Mata Hari” connects back to “Шум/Shum” through the metal-like noise (шум means exactly that, and just listen to the final 20 seconds of “Mata Hari”!)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSiZmR1c7Q4Efendi • Mata Hari(my current favourite)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-dxzp6JvsGo_A • Shum (this is the official ESC version, shorter and somewhat toned down from the 4’ version emil.y posted upthread)
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 29 March 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
the triangle works geographically as well: RUS ^ - - - - - - v vUKR <- - - - - - - - - - > AZE
(it does in Zing anyway lol)
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 29 March 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link
all 39* entries in 14 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6FU4wPI-ng
(Belarus was disqualified for being too political, twice,Armenia decided to withdraw its entry because of the political crisis in the country)
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 29 March 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
audiences (Dutch only) will be allowed (unless conditions deteriorate):https://www.escdaily.com/dutch-government-allows-reduced-amount-of-audience-at-eurovision-2021/
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
So, I had some thoughts on some of the entries:
😈💅 New Episode 💅😈 @nedraggett joins us to chat about the devils in the details of the #Eurovision entries from #Slovenia, #Sweden, #Cyprus, #Norway, #Croatia, and #Belgium. #OpenUp your podcast apps and have a listen to one hell of an episode! https://t.co/WqVtqhaEpP— The EuroWhat? Podcast (@EuroWhat) April 6, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/18/russias-eurovision-entry-to-be-investigated-for-lyrcslol
― scanner darkly, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
I'm surprised (and happy) to see that the Hooverphonic are still around and are the Belgian entry. It seems so random!
― daavid, Thursday, 8 April 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link
I am kind of obsessed with Mata Hari as well. That chorus is massive! Can anyone recommend artist/songs in the same vein (i.e. Europop with Middle Eastern flourishes)? I'm a little disconnected from ILM so I'm unaware if there's already a thread for it.
― daavid, Thursday, 8 April 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link
Europop with Middle Eastern flourishes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF9BcOvBwfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzKgojZqO5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdxOCTezeTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bridO-wD7c8
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
inexact application of "Middle Eastern" but first few things that came to mind
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Thursday, 8 April 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
Those are: Inga & Anush • Jan-Jan (Armenia, 2009)Hadise • Düm Tek Tek (Turkey, 2009)Nadav Guedj • Golden Boy (Israel, 2015)Sirusho • Qélé, Qélé (Armenia, 2008)
thanks for posting these, seandalai – didn’t really have those older ones handy in my mind!
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 10 April 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link
the current gold standard for this is Eleni Foureira’s fantastic “Fuego” (Cyprus), which should have won in 2018 over Netta’s “Toy” (and would have, if Eleni wouldn’t have been overcome with nerves in the final over the prospect). of this year’s contenders, “Mata Hari” and San Marino’s “Adrenalina” (see upthread) are following in this song’s footsteps. feel the fire an let your pelican fly:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54PHdAEmJkM
that thrilling davul/zurna hook makes it. it’s a combination of instruments that is traditionally used in wedding music all over the Balkans, the Eastern Mediterranean, Anatolia and the Kaukasus, part of the Ottoman footprint in the region (as well as that of the Romani in the Balkans possibly?). of course Eurovision is just the tip of this iceberg, there are whole (thriving) genres that can be traced back to this imprint. check for example: Bulgarian chalga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalga and Romanian manele: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manele.
Anyways, I don’t think there’s much to be found on any of this on ILM (unless it’s buried somewhere in some oughties thread or other). I do post the occasional Türkpop banger here: I don't like Turkish music, or do I?
as for “Toy”, you may remember it for its chorus, but listen to the beats/percussion in the verses: it has its fair share of Middle Easternness, like most Israeli entries these days - see “Golden Boy” above and this year’s “Set Me Free” by Eden, which features Arabic strings in the mix. there’s Arabic flourishes in “Russian Woman” as well, as I mentioned above.And then there’s the Albanian entry, “Karma” by Anxhela Peristeri, (quoting Wikipedia here) “a dramatic ethnic Balkan-inspired pop ballad combining modern and traditional Albanian elements.” – which means large parts also sound very Turkish. they forgot to mention the trap section tho! needless to say I love it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4D_RfEFwd4
it's the opposite of a banger, but Ukraine’s 2016 ESC winner, Jamala’s beautiful “1944”, deserves a mention as well. from Wikipedia: “The song's chorus, in the Crimean language, is made up of words from a Crimean Tatar folk song called "Ey Güzel Qırım" that Jamala had heard from her great-grandmother, reflecting on the loss of a youth which could not be spent in her homeland. The song features the duduk [...] and the use of the mugham vocal style.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rnM-MwRHY
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 10 April 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
https://scandipop.co.uk/norways-eurovision-2022-song-subwoolfer-give-wolf-banana/
― nxd, Sunday, 20 February 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link
We have a new thread!
Eurovision Song Contest 2022
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 February 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link
ah, ty
― nxd, Sunday, 20 February 2022 16:54 (two years ago) link