Stanley Kubrick: Classic or Dud?

Did you catch the first two? Killer's Kiss is very good imo.

don’t see killer’s kiss on any of my subscriptions but fear and desire is on kanopy, I will watch it

It's not great apart from the sense of unreality and detachment, cool to see this in embryonic form. I love that he borrowed money from his uncle to make it and expected it to make his investment back as a Saturday afternoon feature.

edgelord first post right not wrong

don’t see killer’s kiss on any of my subscriptions but fear and desire is on kanopy, I will watch it

yes, through the SF library. when I signed up they were giving access to 8 films a month, but they have increased the number over time, it’s now 15/month

Wow!

watched Fear and Desire, it was ok. Paul Mazursky's first film role!

can see the humor in Lolita but struggle to be amused by Dr. Strangelove, I think it is the wrong time to rewatch this movie, it’s hard to see it as comedy at this moment

That’s what makes it great? Human being’s survival isn’t a factor in the humor.

I do think it is great, watched it again today trying to ignore the present moment, appreciated it more

I watched "Strangelove" with my older kid recently, and it really hit me, for the first time, just *how* black it is as a black comedy. Like, it goes so far in that direction that it's barely a comedy. George C. Scott is brilliantly broad, and the bits with him and the Russian ambassador are slapstick funny, sure, but so much of the rest of it is so bone-dry in its delivery. The humor is in the absurdity and mounting doom of the scenario, not in the jokes, per se.

I bet Kubrick was a big fan of "Airplane!", though.

Sellers' reactions during the bodily fluids discussion are gold

Filmworker is on film 4 on Wednesday night (at 01:50)

rewatched A Clockwork Orange in a dysphoric state of mind. The vision, concepts, imagery were great but I didn't enjoy it. I appreciated Kubrick's dystopian films when I felt more secure and safe myself, but not now

watching it now I just want the comfort of Singing in the Rain

An ugly film I managed to get through twice; no desire to revisit.

I think it stands at the top of the heap as an aesthetic achievement, but yes, it’s ugly. It has to be ugly.

I did think about that after I posted--it can't be anything else, so I'd really have to organize my thoughts and provide a lot more explanation than just that.

Understand. I will say for such a deeply stylized and attractively art directed film, the violence in it has always struck me as uniquely disturbing. There’s nothing cool or sexy about any of it.

It’s his most puerile, which for him must have been some kind of achievement.

It has to be ugly.

It doesn't have to be uglier, more puerile and more vulgar than the book, which it is.

Barry Lyndon is melancholic and beautiful, very detailed and extremely long. I’ve managed to watch it in one sitting, but that in general seems hard for me in 2020

I like the above assertion that it is skewering pomposity and I agree with d leone’s long ago posts about the symmetry of it - rise and decline, all uphill the first half, and a gradual descent into hopelessness in the second

I had vague memories of it as geneal and benign when I saw it at first but now it’s clear to me after watching his films again after all these years that 2001 was really Kubrick’s most optimistic, humanist film.

the candle-lit scenes in Barry Lyndon were beautiful

I like the 60s/70s crap British futuristic squalor of Clockwork Orange, can only think of one other film with that kind of feel to it - Jubilee.

have been planning on watching Sebastiane and Jubilee

it definitely benefits from that brutalist architecture and design

also Stan was at least 10x the filmmaker Derek Jarman was

watched The Shining again, seeing it again after all of these years reminded me that it’s hard to remove one's self from the original experience

it’s hard to remove one's self from the original experience

Wait.. Dan... Danny?

:)

went with my older sister to see it, she let me choose the film, it scared her so much that she never quite forgave me for the decision

So the guy who directed "Dr. Strangelove" also directed a movie called "Barry Lyndon" and not once mentioned the Daisy ad.

Not explicitly, no, but if you take into account the title and the fact that he also directed 2001 (“Daisy, Daisy”)... it’s up to you to connect the dots

holy crap, it's all been right there on the screen the entire time.

What’s the daisy ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7SW5aOX2_I

I don't know which is scarier, nuclear war or white people using sour cream as a dip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDypP1KfOU

Is anyone else confused about this thread revive?

At my first Zoom synchronous lecture about an hour ago, several of my film students named Kubrick films and admitted to loving them -- dude, always dudes.

these dude are in the 18-24 range.

Is anyone else confused about this thread revive?

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I was, but looked it up earlier, and it turns out "the Daisy ad" went out (one) in Sept 1964, 9 months after Dr Strangelove went on general release, so if anything the direction of influence is that way round.
Im guessing the revive post was a gag though, so

D'oh I've just realised the Barry Lyndon/LBJ part of the gag.

To spell it out, Lyndon's opponent in '64 was a guy named Barry.

ZOMG

Ha holy shit

yeah, i got that part (Goldwater/Lyndon). I thought the main gag was that Dr Strangelove might have been influenced by an ad that came after it was made

the first part of Full Metal Jacket seemed a lot funnier than I remember it being when I first watched it

saw Eyes Wide Shut again after many years, I was reminded that behind the erotic thriller it is about a relationship in trouble

there were a lot of really enigmatic moments though, that were hard to incorporate into the story and which made me wonder what else was going on