Red Dead Redemption

Also, typing "rdr2 (name of thing)" into youtube is your friend.

Thanks to my shitty internet and the game's hilarious size it took me a full week to download it from Xbox Game Pass.

so far i have to say i am appreciating that the economy makes sense now even if it's gamified to take advantage of 'whales'. like in the campaign money becomes irrelevant early on and the shootouts are so easy that tonics/food etc are basically meaningless which makes the RPG elements half baked

and the honor system is far less opaque

Suddenly clicked with me that I might like this game. It's down to $30 in the PS4 store. Seems like a good price for a 100GB monster. Think it will get much cheaper any time soon?

I should've made more of an effort with this as I'm sure it's great but it starts off so slow. Just felt like endless trudging through the snow.

yeah I liked the RDR1 but I got kinda bored with 2 halfway through it

the snow bits don't last long, game gets good.

My very casual survey of takes makes it seem like people generally like the first 3/5 of it but then get bored in the redundant endgame. I haven't played The Witcher yet, either, but that's another one where I hear people lose interest in the game, as such, even though they enjoy the world it offers for exploration.

I have started RDR2 twice but never got out of the snow. I found the controls quite arbitrary and floaty. Clearly got to get used to this, but it seemed to be 'Press square to draw your gun; press R2 to stand in a particular stance; press triangle to fire; press L1 to put the gun away' - I couldn't really work out how I was supposed to get used to this and it was reminiscent of other games like Last Of Us where you seem to just be playing a story and hitting buttons at the right times. I'm sure once I'm out the prelude it'll make more sense though.

i loved RDR and only made it a few missions into RDR2 before stagnating. a lot of that is me (i don't have time or concentration for big complicated games anymore, i have discovered the switch is the perfect console for me), but yeah the controls seemed chunky and confusing. he moves so slowly, even when "running," it's like moving in molasses.

i did love the witcher though.

I'm sure once I'm out the prelude it'll make more sense though.

definitely. the game hits a stride once you actually hit the open world and are free to go wander off on your horse and explore, shoot innocent birds all day, accidentally bump into drunk people and start a fight, etc.

There were elements of "press button now" to "The Last of Us," but mostly during cut scenes or ... QTEs? Is that the jargon? Anyway much of "Last of Us" was not like that, it was strategy and stealth and aiming and exploring. But I also like the idea of playing a story.

I played about a hundred hours of RDR2 Online but didn't finish the second half of the main story.

I really didn't want to fish or hunt or do other side mission stuff with Arthur Morgan, a dude is a precarious situation and actively being chased by his enemies. It just never made sense to me that he'd be like, welp, time to get that hunting achievement! John Marston felt more like a guy with time to kill.

-in

but guys there wuz a secret serial killer too!

'Press square to draw your gun; press R2 to stand in a particular stance; press triangle to fire; press L1 to put the gun away'

srsly tho this is a very accurate description of what I hated about this game

(but it is great)

(for about two thirds of the time)

there's a lot to be said for games that have an intuitive control system. obvs you get used to things, but I'm surprised at how different so many games of a similar flavour seem to choose entirely different buttons for jumping or dashing.
I think Death Stranding was very good at this, especially the top buttons working as bag straps, which really gave the impression of balancing on rough terrain. a stroke of genius to include this, and definitely a madcap decision that turned out to work

its absolutely worth 30 bucks

Definitely seems close to its lowest price so far. But if I'm being honest I'd be buying it just to buy it, since it's so far back in my queue that I have no idea when I'd get to it and even if I did, it's size is too unwieldy to even download and have on hand.

About 5 hours in. It’s good! I like getting on my horse and galloping around. Feels very slow / unresponsive somehow though, like GTA v.

I've never played GTA, but I have this one loosely slotted for, like, February.

started RDR2 properly last night! On the bit where you attempt to rob the train but I kinda died. Still getting used to the rather arbitrary controls and slightly slow/floaty walking. Also there are points where it seems to want me to read on-screen instructions, concentrate on story dialogue AND steer around rocky mountain paths all at the same time. My head isn't built for such things.

Re: GTA - after the Cyberpunk debacle, I'm kind of keen to play one of these as a placebo. Which is best for PS4?

5

i loved red dead redemption but didn't make it far into RDR2, and a big part of it was the clunky controls

i'm sure i'll; get used to them, but there's a lot to remember. I don't know why, for example, you press a different button to run faster on a horse than you do on foot. selecting items is also really complicated. and there are lots of instances where you have to long-hold buttons when really pressing once would have done fine. arthur walks extremely slowly too, and doesn't always respond well to being gee'd-up

it was mostly the slow walking that got on my nerves. and he handles like a station wagon. but i should probably go back to it and give it another shot.

In GTA v in a car, accelerate is R2
In RDR on a horse, “accelerate “ is X
- R2 fires your pistol quickly from the hip
- I’ve killed a lot of people just trying to get the fucking horse to move

lol, yeah, the most dangerous part of going to town is getting on your horse and riding out of the city limits without terrorizing a family on accident

Just started Chapter 3. It's so good. I love the amount of effort they've put in with getting NPCs to react in different ways.
Just a shame about the controls. I find that 50% of the reason I die or fail a mission is because Arthur took his sweet time to do what I bloody tell him, or that instead of hiding behind a thing he jumps on top of it, or I accidentally insulted someone by looking at them funny, or like yesterday I accidentally ran into someone casually sitting on a bench and KILLED them (I was on foot).
a game shouldn't be difficult Because the controls and handling are difficult. For such an immersive game (and it is an immersive game), this is the factor that takes me out of it most.

For sure. I laugh in panic when I’m hiding behind something in a firefight and then try to change position and Arthur stands up and starts meandering around real slowly like it’s Sunday morning while I mash away at the buttons

As someone from the stone modern age, when a hard drive might have 512MB of storage, it's downright awe-inspiring that this game needs at least 100GB of space.

I remember buying a new pc with a 210MB hdd and used Windows dblspace to make in nearly 400. I remember colleagues asking what on Earth I would use all that space for.

It's probably not enough to cover an RDR horse's balls growing on a hot day.

Hard drive schmard drive

https://i.imgur.com/ND5WAEj.png

Just started playing this. I keep having to reload the mission because some Miyazaki mapped Talk and Shoot to the same button. Very pretty so far but I'm already annoyed by Arthur's sluggishness; maybe I'll get used to the slower pace of life after a while.

I officially started playing today, and it's taking some getting used to after the last few fast games I've played. But I enjoyed the first 1% of the story so far. Looks and sounds great, hope the gunplay stays as easy as it was during the wolf attack. Pretty sure I killed at least a couple of them with just the sound of my gun, considering how shitty I am at aiming.

I'm maybe a couple of hours ahead of you and it's stayed at that difficulty level. It doesn't feel like the kind of game to suddenly have a massive spike.

No its not a very difficult game on the hole. If you fail a mission it just starts again. Getting gold on the missions is tougher though, and it can feel a little unfair as those often depend on finishing the missions quickly and cleanly, so when Arthur starts diddling around instead of shooting / running etc you know you've already failed

yeah you get used to the slugglish movements.

Currently I'm flip flopping between gta 5 and old Sand Andreas and the difference of character control is godalmighty.

I started GTAV but the character control was very similar to RDR2 and I found even the initial car chase quite challenging. Yes, very different to previous instalments I'd played

I don't mind the driving in gta5, as much as I have no problems with the horse control in RDR. But the on foot sluggish movement is such a back step imo, and that ragdoll nonsense can just fuck off.

My horse is dirty but I don't have a brush. I won't get one till I finish getting drunk then go back to camp and choose a specific mission. I feel bad for my horsey.

why don't you have a brush? don't you get one by default?

god, if only it were so simple

*pulls at sticky, tangled hair*

xp you don't start with one but apparently you get it when you sell a horse to someone.

just go galloping into the rivers

OK, just got another hour or so in. I'm enjoying this, but having never played anything like this I'm a little out of sync with it right now. Like, I'll be in a room, unsure of what to do, so I figure, ok, might as well go exploring. And then the next thing I know, I'm saddled up in a posse going to shoot a bunch of people or about to rob a train, but my brain is all, whoa, wait a minute, I don't feel like robbing a train right now, I just want to explore and get used to stuff.