Zing: A (beta) ILX client for Macs

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It’s obvious how much Apple has neglected the Mac when you start coding for it again. Like on iPhone I can really easily set everything to the user’s preferred text size. There’s no support for that on Mac at all.

Changing the link behaviour is really easy, I’ll do that.

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

So cool. Couple things:
- I can drag to change the width of the threads list, but as soon as I let go it snaps back
- It'd be nice if arrows/PgDn/PgUp worked to scroll

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lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

thanks! got the width bug. The page up/dn thing is harder - it's the same bug as copy/paste note working. will take a look over the weekend

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

oh maybe that's what you meant by menubar checker

haven't tried writing a Mac desktop app but it doesn't surprise me they've let the frameworks stagnate.

lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

Now I have five copies of each bookmark. Only one account listed in Preferences.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

What version of macOS are you running? It seems like this might be linked to how the keychain stores passwords

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

Mojave, sorry.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

It actually went up to six for a while. Just logged off and back on again

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

Maybe it has to do with logging onto the browser at the same time?

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

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Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

Lol. That was supposed to be grasping at straws dot com.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

Are you running from the Downloads folder?

The problem (I think) is that it is trying to save your settings and somehow failing and repeatedly trying. Quarantine might conceivably cause that; and moving it out of the Download folder will remove quarantine from it.

(You might also need to erase ~/Library/Containers/com.haunteddancehall.maczing (or similar) before trying again. Sorry! Beta 4 lyfe

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I might be doing something like that, thanks.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

Might be nice to see the current thread with some kind of subtle highlight in the threads list.

lukas, Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

This is how I read ILX now. Shut up and take my money, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

I'd been wondering whether to bother doing more work on it, so that's good to hear! I'm getting quite into using it in one-pane mode (cmd-1, cmd-2) in a small window over to the side — it sits nicely beside Tweetdeck.

stet, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

i'm not sure it *really* has enough over the browser functionality, then again, i'm using it now. Ctrl+D for bookmarking open threads is *incredibly* useful (would be useful to have a shortcut to unbookmark as well). Second lukas's request for some sort of shading in the open thread when using it in 2-pane mode. i can see if it had a bit more functionality it could easily become my default on mac.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

actually i was just thinking how nice it would be to have full reader/email shortcut functionality - p/n for going up and down between messages, j/k for going up and down between bookmarks/threads. r for replying to a particular message in focus, automatically taking the message body and putting it in quote or italic bbcode brackets etc. so consider me interested!

and actually *is* there a way to remove a bookmark from a thread?

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link

and filtering bookmarks according to boards. sorry i'm getting carried away now - i know this is a spare time thing. on a basic using it point - it would be nice if clicking on a thread took you to the most recent post, or the most recently read post – i can't quite understand the existing behaviour about which post it goes to when you click on a thread.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

no, keep this coming, I love it! The only way to remove a bookmark right now is to right-click (or ctrl-click) on the bookmark itself and choose "remove".

Board-level bookmarks is a great idea, too.

The thread behaviour isn't right, no. The way it works right now is that if you click a bookmark you see the thread starting from your last bookmark, if you choose a thread from new answers you get shown the 50 oldest and 50 most recent posts, with a fold in the middle. What it should really do is know if you've opened a thread before and if so take you to the most recent posts.

stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

ah right, interesting, thanks stet, and thanks on the remove bookmark instructions. also, i *think* if you have something that looks like bbcode that's incorrectly closed out, it will just go NOPE, rather than allowing a 'post anyway?' option. tbf my bracketing so often does require checking and revising you could argue this is *no bad thing*.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

using now, seems great. will update if i run into any trouble. thanks for working on this :)

devvvine, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

using MacZing for the first time right now! boldly, in italics, underlining...

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

formatting: CHECK

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

having a great time! i'm also going to throw some ideas out as i go - take with a grain of salt, of course.

Is there a way to increase the size of the text submission area? i see that if i keep typing, it starts to add extra space, but it would be great if it could be manually resized by dragging the edge of the pane.

(by the way, for people who haven't checked this out - one really cool quality of life thing is that you can scroll through the rest of the thread while keeping the message submission box on the screen. will be very handy for composing ridiculous messages in threads where people are rite and rong all over the place

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

another small thing that might be nice - a subtle visual cue showing you which thread you're viewing from the site new answers and/or bookmarks. pro mock-up:

https://i.imgur.com/nPkIWvH.jpg

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

finally, would be neat if clicking the little red hat in the corner made a frog croaking noise

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

a more serious bug - i keep getting the Poxy Fule error when clicking the "view previous page..." link in a bookmark.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

one more thought for today - is there a way to open multiple threads at once? i am an ilx multitabber, in general

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

If you CMD-click or double click on a thread it should open in a new tab, yep.

stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

would love a Linux version I'll see myself out

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

just remembered at one point I had started writing an emacs mode for reading ILX. any interest? I'll see myself out again

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

Only if make a vim version as well.

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I’ll give you details of the API if it’d help, diamonddave85

stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

I've fixed that horrible poxy fule error on previous pages – if the thread view looks unstyled after the update, right-click on it and choose "refresh" to fix.

stet, Friday, 5 June 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

New release looks good thanks.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

If you CMD-click or double click on a thread it should open in a new tab, yep.
This was working for me at one point but not anymore.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

looks like there's a crashing bug there if you cmd-click in certain circs, thanks

stet, Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

Hm. Didn’t actually crash for me, just wasn’t working but now it does again.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

Oh wait. I see, it works with bookmarks but not from Site New Answers.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Zing isn't remembering the window size between launches. Is this a known thing or should I toss prefs? (I'm on build 88)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

It’s a known thing, I’ll upload a fixed version when I get near WiFi again

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link

uploaded a new version now to sort that

stet, Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

thanks!

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

Possibly an option to open threads from SNA at the bottom / newest?

lukas, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Here to a report with this revealing hidden text when returning search results or displaying latest post of a bookmarked thread in the left panel. See for instance Babylon 5

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link

thanks - the next beta fixes it. haven't pushed it out yet because it's broken in dark mode

stet, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link

Thanks!

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:24 (three years ago) link

Don’t what was going on with the beginning of that sentence.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Any chance of adding a preference panel for changing the app icon? I was about to screen-share with a work client and had sudden dread that they would think I was using some secret MAGA chud.net client.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 June 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link


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