love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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guardian says nationwide 5400 ppl have been housed under this, MEN says greater manchester has put up 1600 ppl, I know homelessness is bad in manchester but ~30% of the uk total seems wrong

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 15 May 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

Between the start of April and the end of July, Greater Manchester is expecting nearly 5,000 new people to be classed as homeless here, including families, along with more than 70 prisoners a month released with no housing to go to.

if them figures are correct that is so grim.

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

I don't understand this at all, even the Tories must realise this is an unexploded public health bomb that's going to undermine the whole effort and will be incompatible with limiting the economic damage.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 May 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

Central government has been suppressing homelessness figures for years. Numbers reported by individual councils are 5X the supposed national total.

ShariVari, Friday, 15 May 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

I suspect the ultras don't really care about either of those things, they'll be worried that that these steps are the first on the way to socialism and might prove harder to remove later down the line. Same line of thinking as with furlough.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 May 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

Plan seems to be to tell everyone they don't have a choice about exposing themselves to infection, so public health bombs not too much of a concern I'd guess.

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Friday, 15 May 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

it's p hard to count homelessness tbf, you have figures of ppl who present to the council as homeless, which obv excludes a lot of ppl, and then the murkier biz of counting rough sleepers, which is v difficult and no one seems to try that hard

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 15 May 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYDq4lYWAAUJiuA?format=jpg&name=large

summary executions for both these jerkoffs here would be too kind, they should be repeatedly thrown off a cliff and dragged back up it again.

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

I'd deport the lot of these Spiked cunts if I was running the country, except no-one would take them - does St. Helena still take exiles? The disproportionate access the media gives these arseholes is a national disgrace.

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Friday, 15 May 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

I've heard various right wing wankers like Isabel Oakeshott boohooing over the harm this is doing to disadvantaged children - like anyone in their right mind thinks the likes of Isabel Oakeshott cares whether disadvantaged children live or die.

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Friday, 15 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

One of the strange right wing u-turns is now they finally admit austerity kills people and is bad. so the working poor need to die of the Rona to prevent themselves dying from even worse austerity than before that they used to deny was killing them!

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/15/lib-dem-election-campaign-a-car-crash-says-partys-review?CMP

Turns out internal party reports are good now.

This one appears to suggest the LibDems actually believed they were capable of winning the last election and, well

Matt DC, Friday, 15 May 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

a mixture of proposals here to address this in the short & medium term, I note it was liked by the hated clive lewis

*wades into rent arguments* Whilst we need to sort a millennia of landlordism, 1st priority is to ensure those who can’t pay their rent from their income keep a decent roof over the heads, whether they’re a low paid worker, or unable to work due to their needs or the job market -

— CarolineJMolloy (@carolinejmolloy) May 15, 2020

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 15 May 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

clive lewis isn't hated so much as exasperatedly tutted at, his heart has always been in the right place despite his antics and i think most here would agree

imago, Friday, 15 May 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

and yeah some good/interesting ideas there, may even overlook the use of 'millennia' in the singular

imago, Friday, 15 May 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Has Brendan O'Neill always been so morose? He doesn't seem to get any kind of kick out of doing this stuff at all. It feels like he's worn himself out. He should be getting more of a buzz out of it, it not working

anvil, Friday, 15 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

tutting is just gutless hating

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Friday, 15 May 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

xp well as long as he's miserable

What's (Left), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

he's had a hard life, Maxim Gorky has nothing on this mofo's "Irish peasant stock" background of intense class struggle and suffering!

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

clive lewis isn't hated so much as exasperatedly tutted at, his heart has always been in the right place despite his antics and i think most here would agree


I’m a woman, so no

gyac, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

Clive Lewis is a twat

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

a bit of a Q+C soldier boy and boorish alpha-male wanker from hell even if you want to write off his "antics"!

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

The report notes that while Swinson was hampered by having less than five months between winning the party leadership and the election, her decision to immediately seek a new party chief executive undermined decision-making structures.

“This had the unintended consequence creating an ‘inner circle’ of advisers at arm’s length from the resources of the party machine, and put decision-making in the hands of an unaccountable group around the leader,” the report says. “It also severed some people from the roles and responsibilities they were employed to do, and led to the overpromotion of others.”

it's a familiar old story, Swinson became intoxicated with power and installed an upper circle of sycophantic cronies who weren't going to hit her with any harsh truths. Love that idiot photo op they did at the autumn party conference were Swinson was Moses on Bournemouth beach, leading her party into the English Channel. "we are LibDems, we only go forwards, even if that means walking into the sea with our clothes on"

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link

Shot; chaser. pic.twitter.com/dS7sUetSmC

— David Timoney (@fromarsetoelbow) May 16, 2020

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

Bet Clive Lewis liked that excellent thread by accident.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

But this is the reality of the solutions this government will come up with:

if those were the terms offered to TfL, what do you think the bailout conditions for universities will be? things are going to get really bad/even worse, very soon

— Amelia (@joan0fsnark) May 16, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link

Clive Lewis is one of the best current UK MPs.

the pinefox, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

especially if you enjoy getting on your knees

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

better than RLB or Nadia Whittome ? nope not a chance and his "antics" aren't having a jokey hand-buzzer and a spinning bow-tie, he's had complaints of groping made against him by women in the plural iirc.

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

There's about, what, 50 good MPs out of 650? And that's being charitable.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link

I think that sounds quite generous from the ace with mace downwards there is probably about 630 oxygen thieves, landlords, corrupt lobbyists and tories etc...

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link

The Bundesliga returns today and that will, no doubt, make people pine for the return of the Premier League. If you're amongst those pining, consider having a listen to this. The brilliant @aut_omnia thinks Project Restart is - to quote Danny Rose - bollocks. https://t.co/KyIUaa1jFY

— Chris Miller (@WindyCOYS) May 16, 2020

If this goes well and the PL doesn't re-start because...one to watch.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

This is my favourite headline of 2020 so farhttps://t.co/4sPVq4sZ88

— David__Osland (@David__Osland) May 16, 2020

gyac, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

typos in the Times idk

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

He's only been in one party in 2020 so far, is he dying? Can't believe Sir K hasn't invited him back yet.

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

The pandemic eggspurt on that Spurs podcast is very good

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

oh dear Jezza's brother Piers bringing shame to the family name again!

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

now the hated thangam debbonaire has also liked the caroline molloy tweet, which is sort of heartening but lends credence to the idea that her badness stems primarily from not having a clue what she's doing

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

when she was on Any Questions earlier this year she talked like someone quite befuddled and dumb rather than an ideologue, I suppose like a lot of the melts. She was telling Ash Sarkar she couldn't be a dual member of the labour party and the communists or something like that, it was quite an embarrassing show but she still got loads of claps I think!

calzino, Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

accidentally opened the US politics thread lads
https://i.gifer.com/GGg3.gif

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

Fucking horrible isn’t it

gyac, Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

you, quite literally, hate to see it

Millennials are using this app to speak in just 3 weeks. (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

Which one?

plax (ico), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

Beat me to it. The Joe Biden one isn't the Official ILX US Politics Thread.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

Christ, the Labour Party leadership election taking 4 months (or however long it was) was painful enough but nothing compared to US presidential campaigns which are more or less infinite.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

seriously can't believe how long that primary has gone on

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 16 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

hey if it's always an election then you don't have to do any actual politics

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

had a quick peek, makes you glad the UK melts are so cowed

come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

US thread is a really good example of people pushing people who think differently to them further away, with each post the possibility of persuasion diminishes.

anvil, Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

So are we allowed to comment in a political thread concerning a country we're not from? I've never been sure of the etiquette.

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link


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