CAN....S and D?

Cherry Red released Turtles as a 12" with Moonshake and One More Night. That's the version I have. Not sure what the story was in 1983 when they did that, but thank god.

https://www.discogs.com/Can-Moonshake/release/401665

Compiled by Epic Soundtracks! That's cool.

Yes, I've got that. Different mix or edit of "Turtles" I think?

yeah I think there's two edits of it, one of them (I think the original single version?) has this weird false start with Damo & more of a stereo mix. the one on Radio Waves is diffa bit more flat but probably sounds better

High Tyler, good to see you've still got info and links re Can w Tim Hardin and other passing voices, although the Tim Can youtube vid has been removed---yall check https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/search/Tim%20Hardin%20Can

(xp) There's definitely something weird about one of the versions, there's a strange edit - and I've got a feeling it's the one on the Singles comp. Though that might be because I was familiar with the earlier version.

if you google around you should be able to find the can / tim hardin thing elsewhere xp

so I just went ahead and tried to retouch a damo suzuki kool aid man and uh, I think Adobe is cancelling my creative cloud subscription.

maybe i'll try again.

I might be able to hook up an enterprise CC license if it helps

Turtles is core syllabus Can for me because for several years the only Can I owned was that moonshake 12”. You could read about Can a lot in 1986 but finding their records was another matter

I just meant they were cancelling it because of how terrible a job I did. I still have it, I spend 10 hrs a day in it.

Just remembered one of the shows I missed due to quarantine was Damo in a club earlier this month. Tickets were about to go on sale when everything hit.

lol

was curious what Damo was singing on "Deadlock", so I looked it up

When we fool didn't know how build the new room
You could choose too along the sunshine.
But then the smile and then the reefs just for chess and me,
Now you fools stand happy in the pan.
When the smile and tender leaves just for chess and me,
Now you fools must stand in the pan.
When we fool didn't know how build the new room
You could choose too along the sunshine.

oh, thanks for clearing that up, I guess

have "official" Can lyrics ever been published anywhere? did the other members of the band even know what they are?

not even sure what damo knew what they were tbf

From reading the book iirc like a lot of Damo's songs were made up on the spot, like spontanteous poetry more than conscious song lyrics

idk if other Can lyricists approached composing lyrics the same way but i remember reading that somewhere

i know this is stupid but the first time I heard "Halleluwah" the bit where he names the previous three tracks kinda blew my mind - "Mushroomhead, oh yeah, paper house"

haha yeah thats a cool moment

on many other racks it seems clear to me that hes often vocalizing sounds that correlate to words and parts of english language speech but are not themselves actual words

Part of that is because didn't speak English when he joined Can iirc. He was a tourist who overstayed his visa and joined a band while in Germany and that band happened to be Can :) There was even a part in the book where he had a deportation scare but he got out of it.

as told in the book, the individual sagas of both mooney and damo are truly amazing stories!

so why was he mimicking English and not German? because Mooney sang in English?

speaking of - it's recently occurred to me that "Peking O" is, in modern terms, 11 minutes of musical shitposting. I don't know what inspired that track, it almost seems like they were looking at what Zappa was doing and figured "we might as well make this funny"

Also worth noting that Damo was aged 20-23 during his tenure with the band.

so why was he mimicking English and not German? because Mooney sang in English?

Because rock bands sing in English I suppose?

He said he was into Deep Purple at the time he joined Can.

It’s possible those prior tracks weren’t named, per se, when he sang that and the repetition was part of the naming

“hey, he offhandedly referenced some things he sang in the earlier jam, maybe those are names”

probably not the case for Mushroom but the other two yeah probably

Dam dud spend time in rural ireland before he returned to Germany so not sure if he picked up any English here. I think he was pretty quiet so possibly not a great deal.

Xpost it's possible but I doubt it.

New series of archival live albums coming! The first is Live in Stuttgart 1975 and there's an excerpt on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6bXpkbwzs

CAN

...and will!

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great news obv but man what I wouldn't give for a soundboard quality recording of these folks

there's some, but not a ton, I'd have to dig

Live CAN incoming!! 🎉💥😀

the Radio Days boot LP has some killer FM live stuff iirc

i think this stuttgart thing is a soundboard ... there's a fair amount of live can soundboards out there. like the Box Music set.

the live excerpts from the Lost Tapes set are truly bonkers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aI2PzN7j24

listening to that stuttgart excerpt, even if its not a soundboard it might as well be, sounds great

can't hear too much CAN

awesome! am i allowed to hope that these will be cd/download releases as well and not vinyl only

if it's vinyl only I will buy it and rip it for you

srsly

2CD set available for pre-order in the Mute store.

boom

Random Hold probably were the band that tried hardest to actually straddle prog and new wave, to very little acclaim.

Sorry, meant for the Genesis thread.

Holy shit this is incredible news, particularly when this is just the first in a series!