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Here's one I am fond of (very atmospheric):

NIKI - Switchblade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQLbzyoQlUg

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

I think Audrey Mika (from the "Yellow Hearts" remix) is limited as a singer, but this is a nice & "professional" track that should appeal to fans of Dua Lipa, etc.:

Audrey Mika - Just Friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBfEK320hVg

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

truly abhorrent quotes coming from some of the interviewed a&r folks in that dr. luke piece

dyl, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

i like "switchblade" tho!

dyl, Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Victor Leksell's sappy, and not exactly inventive, but sweet 'Svag' is the undeniable monster hit of the spring in Sweden and Norway, currently #1 in both countries for the nth week in a row.

He did a performance with Norwegian popper Astrid S that was pretty clever -- the two of them sat on each side of the Sweden / Norway border. If she went over on his side she would have to be quarantined coming back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_PkXvkFBY4

abcfsk, Sunday, 31 May 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

curtis waters - "stunnin"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgduhk26sIw

this is a tik tok thing that is like a gen z chromeo song or something, i think it's pretty dope

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 June 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link

that feels like a very deliberate attempt to write a tik tok hit but I love it regardless, very charming and the kind of thing it's difficult for a male popstar to pull off

boxedjoy, Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

pretty intoxicating production honestly. in a good way it also ~feels~ much longer than it actually is

dyl, Friday, 19 June 2020 04:48 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HqTDoScPI4

abcfsk, Friday, 19 June 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link

Those Surfaces doofuses did a track with... Elton John?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaDmrrlYNv4

OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Friday, 26 June 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

screaming at jason derulo catapulting himself back to relevance by becoming the world's thirstiest tiktok personality + putting lyrics over a preexisting tiktok instrumental hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUci-tsiU4I

the original instrumental (jawsh 685's "laxed") is honestly entertaining in a kitschy/goofy way, the main synth sounds like something off an snes sound chip

dyl, Saturday, 27 June 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

I like her voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrjvJxv5Ht4

(Angel Cintron - Hometown)

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link

This is a nice slice of bedroom pop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NmCipcL-M

(ELIO - LA in Two)

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

I'm really into this cute album by Roki Fernandez (from Argentina) right now:

https://rokifernandez.bandcamp.com/releases

here 1st (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

this is awesome. like a bit more twee Javiera Mena

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

pop industry + charts news: trade pub billboard is making some long-overdue changes to its tabulation processes to disincentivize the most fashionable of chart-rigging tactics lately, the music/merchandise bundle

while at first glance this would seem to have little relevance to anything 'real' regarding how the industry operates, the fact of the matter is that these aggressive bundling tactics, generally used to juice a release's charting stats during the first week of release, have been so heavily relied-on that eliminating the incentive for this practice may even increase the rate at which album sales continue to crater into oblivion, which may have something of a ripple effect in an already-challenged industry

especially as the pandemic continues to rage, leaving touring generally off the table (of course, ticket bundles were quite popular until recently), i would expect fewer high-profile 'pop' artists to take chances on initiating new album cycles for the next while, and for the pace of tune-turnover at 'pop' radio to slow to an even more glacial pace

while those would obviously not be good developments, it was unquestionably the correct decision for billboard as far as protecting the utility and meaning of their charts. with both streaming volumes and radio audiences in a modest-but-significant ongoing depression since the pandemic took hold, it's become unusually easy lately for artists to use these tactics to launch their hits at #1 overwhelmingly based on encouraging mass-purchasing from artists' hardcore social media-connected fans, in many cases leading to precipitous drops immediately following the first frame once labels/fans apparently stopped caring to put in further effort, the chart peak having already been achieved.

(on a less important note: i am honestly impressed with how direct they are being about the motivations behind this rule change, even going as far as to directly name some of some of the artists who were beneficiaries of some of the more blatant attempts to rig the charts in recent weeks. i generally find billboard's writing about its own charts in recent years to be very lacking in insight, rarely acknowledging in any meaningful way the strategies by which labels work their product to play that particular game, tho such strategies remain abundant. it wasn't always this way, so this more direct/honest announcement was nice to see.)

dyl, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 06:38 (three years ago) link

i know that at this point the billboard charts are mostly about spins and not purchases but the real bottom line is that no one is buying albums and i assume billboard would prefer not to say the quiet part loud. at least bundle sales are sales.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

In addition, Billboard will no longer allow sales of physical albums or singles that are bundled with digital downloads to be reported as digital sales, thereby eliminating the practice of “spontaneous” non-manufactured items being used to influence first-week chart rankings. Only when the physical item -- ostensibly what the consumer is buying -- is shipped, will it be counted in Billboard’s official tallies.

Why would a purchase of a CD + download not count as a sale until the CD ships? I've bought these myself, and was not under the impression that the CD was what I was "ostensibly" buying. I was buying both formats at once. I was buying the single.

FAC 179 (morrisp), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

presumably because vendors are shipping cds well past the date of "purchase" but those numbers count toward week one sales? it's juking the stats no matter how you look at it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

But so what? I bought it when I bought it - that's when the "sale" happened - and got the download immediately. Who cares when the CD ships? (I don't care about the chart, btw, but don't get this controversy.)

FAC 179 (morrisp), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

To put it another way - the merch item is the add-on to the download, not the other way around. At least, that is how I saw it, as the "consumer."

FAC 179 (morrisp), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

i wonder if the implication of that passage is that some of the "manufactured items" in question never got manufactured/distributed to fans in the first place. especially when it comes to ticket bundles, you're dealing w/ a purchase (a concert) that is subject to not existing or drastic change at the hands of any number of forces. i feel like we can say w/ confidence that there were albums sold in the last 6-9 months w/ ticket bundles attached where the concert in question is no longer scheduled.

that having been said, i ordered a bad bunny t shirt (w/ digital download) for my bf when his last album dropped, and the shirt shipped in late june weeks after it was originally scheduled to ship and at least a month after the album came out. adding my purchase to his total at that point makes no sense to me... i was reacting to the "spontaneous" act of him suddenly releasing a new album, and also he was selling some cute t shirts. having chart tabulations dictated by the whims of the packing and shipping industries (sorry your package will not ship for another 2-4 weeks) seems pretty stupid.

i would also keep in mind here that altho the individuals at billboard who work on the charts are very passionate about and protective of the billboard charts as an institution that essentially keeps a public historical record of pop music, the company itself is run by imbeciles

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

that all sounds about right.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

the concern is that labels lately have gotten into the habit of "spontaneously" offering a gazillion different pieces of merchandise, many of which do not actually exist yet except in concept, simply so they can be aggressively promoted on social media to diehards who will make sure to buy every single piece w/ the download of a song that would normally be purchased just once (online stans are hyper-aware of the charts + know that buying these things 'helps' their favorite artist). there is absolutely no question that labels would not engage in this extent of merch bundling, offering limited-time-only perks that just happen to coincide w/ billboard data-tracking weeks, etc., if it weren't a quick-and-easy means of achieving favorable(-looking) charting outcomes (again, many of these high-peaking 'hits' don't end up actually doing much business in the end -- one of this year's #1s might actually miss the year-end chart, which is, uh, not good). the billboard charts are meant to be a barometer of overall consumer interest, not a tabulation of which too-online stanbases were fleeced the hardest last week. so yes it seems weird/stupid on the surface to tie a singles bundle to shipment date of the bundled product rather than the date of purchase of the music download itself, it's something that had to be done because this obviously manipulative practice had gotten so out of hand

this is very similar to the labels' practice of arranging to have retailers deep-discount their singles in the mid-to-late '90s which ultimately helped lead to the especially early death of the physical singles market in the us. this tactic literally lost labels money and yet they couldn't stop themselves from doing it because execs + artist managers remained so eager to snatch up yet another #1 hit whenever it seemed even remotely achievable. billboard ended up having to nip that practice in the bud too, but it took them years to figure out how they wanted to go about it

dyl, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link

Wasn’t the rule something about one credit card would only be counted toward purchase of 4 copies of a single, max? (This came up in that Tekashi 6ix9ine vs. Ariana & Bieber spat.) Why not just change it to one (1) copy, but still allow that sale to count, even if it’s part of a merch bundle? One copy seems fair.

FAC 179 (morrisp), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

i don't know the specific rules billboard's data provider (nielsen) applies to attempt to correct for suspicious/manipulative/fraudulent activity that may appear in the figures they collect. even in their statement about that controversial charting week, they seem to avoid going into specifics. i would say much of what's said among fan communities and within the industry about hard limits on number of copies per transaction/'receipt' or credit card is largely rumor/speculation.

dyl, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 06:54 (three years ago) link

i don't know that nielsen even has access to buyer/credit card info for all the download sales figures it receives

dyl, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 06:57 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

interesting collaboration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byO74UGa8bI
Sam Smith ft. Burna Boy • My Oasis

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

it's so sad how slow american top 40 radio is to turn songs over these days. i am now hearing songs like "supalonely," "death bed," "if the world was ending" and "i hope" as much as i ever did, and they all started really popping off like six months ago... not to mention the extended tenures of ancient tunes like "circles," "adore you" and "blinding lights," which is now enjoying its bazillionth week as the top title on billboard's airplay chart. lest it all be blamed on the pandemic, last year was actually just as bad: there have been 25 top 10s on the airplay chart so far this year (by the same time last year it was 24), whereas in the years about a decade ago that number would generally be ~40% greater.

i'm not that idealistic: i know that even in its best years radio seeks to respond to listeners' pre-existing tastes more than it hopes to introduce them to new songs, but this still represents a truly absurd low, at least as far back as i can remember from my lifetime. at this point i have come to expect that any pop song i find online that sounds like a hit will probably not actually enter regular rotation at the top 40 stations i am subjected to at w*rk until half a year later.

so uhhh by that logic, what's gonna be ringing out in the w*rkplace come early 2021? tate mcrae from upthread actually has a song on the charts now, "you broke me first." the eilish influence is obvious but i kinda like it anyway. apparently it's a thing on tiktok, but what isn't these days. conan gray's "heather" is too -- the concept is intriguing in some ways but beyond that i'm not feeling the song at all.

speaking of tiktok, i recently saw a group of high school-age girls across the street from my apartment filming each other doing something-or-other to saweetie's "tap in," presumably for that app. like her last big hit the production is based primarily around an instantly recognizable 00s hit and could have been produced by anyone, but in fact it turns out it's dr. luke's latest.

"mood" by 24kgoldn and iann dior has been zooming up the streaming charts with alarming rapidity for the past month and is about to go top 10 and probably beyond on the hot 100; radio is unsurprisingly just getting started on it. both artists have had previous singles promoted alternately to both rap and alternative stations, w/ mixed results either way, so i guess splitting things down the middle was the way to go. nothing fancy or high-minded about it, but it's cute and catchy.

racing up the airplay charts surprisingly quickly by today's standards is bts's new one, which sports english lyrics and an unnecessary key change. as always, its lofty chart debut was fueled by feverish fan activity, but unlike with previous singles the strong early radio response could actually help it stick around near or even at the top, where it began. i wouldn't say i really like this one -- "boy with luv" is my pick among bts singles -- but the chorus melody is an earworm.

certainly one of the worst songs i have heard recently is surf mesa's sedated house cover of "can't take my eyes off you" (sorry, i mean "ily"). the other 'edm' one getting a shot at top 40 right now, topic & a7s's "breaking me," is no less basic but at least has a solid tune and a non-execrable aesthetic. the latter artists recently released a pretty forgettable followup w/ lil baby of all people.

"i hope" has actually grown on me over the course of its slow rise to full saturation. (i know i'm an incessant charlie puth h8r, but i've come to prefer the original solo version -- it would have been cool if his verse had been more of a response to gabby's instead of just the original second verse sung by a dude, but oh well.) i guess given their past crossover history, the next country tune to go pop could be dan '+' shay's "i should probably go to bed," but the song is a total snooze and the production sounds weirdly hollow. preferable would be morgan wallen's "7 summers" which recently posted shockingly high opening-week streams for a country single, landing in the hot 100's top 10. wallen's already got a single going at country radio right now, so even if they did try crossing it it would probably take until next summer to go the full distance. if it's already this big a hit, why bother?

anyway. i guess i should probably go to bed.

dyl, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 08:14 (three years ago) link

thanks for that post, stay up late any time :)

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

seconded

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

(even if there doesn’t seem to be a great deal of current US chart pop that tickles my fancy)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

What kind of w*rk do you do, dyl? Enquiring minds want 2 know!

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

thanks sean and breastcrawl :)

i w*rk in a clinical lab. the managers generally frown on both headphones + streaming (tho they are starting to budge on the second one slightly) so radio tends to be the default source of background noise

dyl, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link

Interesting, thx - sorry 2 be nosy :)

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link

that dyl superpost is reminding me how disconnected from MY WORLD OF YOUNG PEOPLE the plague is making me feel... no concerts and no outdoor music of any kind means that it's easy to stop panning for flecks of gold in the muddy fields of radio pop. I should really go back to listening to Singles Jukebox i guess.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

This track seems to have done fairly well; it's basic, but I like it (the songwriters include my crew - Tommy Brown, Victoria Monét, Ariana Grande).

BLACKPINK - Ice Cream (feat. Selena Gomez)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRXZj0DzXIA

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

Btw - I really enjoy the (streaming) Deluxe version of Selena Gomez’s Rare (as distinct from the physical “Deluxe” version of the album, which I also own but has a different tracklist). The streaming version is basically a playlist of everything she’s released in the past year, and it’s highly listenable. (“Rare” is a tremendous single, IMO—I’ve gone on about it in the Selena Gomez thread, & won’t rehash it here.)

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

I like this (especially the beat... and that little d'n'b drop at the end!):

Audrey Nuna - Damn Right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bc1xg5ctUc

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

i didn't expect i would like "ice cream" but it's pretty good. i like "damn right" too

dyl, Saturday, 12 September 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

is it pop, is it r&b? either way, it’s further proof of the continuing integration of afropop into the international pop fabric:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyOhdUxScls
Aluna ft. Rema & Kaytranada • The Recipe

jointly produced by Kaytranada and Nigerian producer Altims

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 September 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

v v pretty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDDwmCn_Qm4

abcfsk, Sunday, 13 September 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link

Emilie Nicolas • Oh Love

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Sunday, 13 September 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link

what is going on with madison beer? is there really no way forward that does not involve assuming every aspect of an already-established star's aesthetic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfsLT7W80AE

dyl, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

Lol, that’s hilarious

Madison Beer = watery domestic

Scam Likely (morrisp), Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

its really funny + weird that major labels have spent 7 years trying to get a hit out of her and still haven't really succeeded. usually by this point either the label or artist gets fed up with that but instead we get this weird desperate flailing i guess

ufo, Sunday, 20 September 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

The “Controversies” section of her Wikipedia page is really humorous.

Scam Likely (morrisp), Sunday, 20 September 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

'Fools' and 'Selfish' are good songs and she has a decent enough voice, but she's the kind of artist where you could hear five of her songs in five different contexts/playlists and not even realize they were all by the same person. it's unfair to pigeonhole her as the Walmart version of Ariana or Selena or whoever when she's more like musical equivalent of the entire line of Great Value products. at this point her identity as a clueless/entitled influencer is more developed than her identity as as artist, but I guess it isn't too late for her to find herself even after all these years in the industry

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Monday, 21 September 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

I hope this song shoots to #1 in the US and stays there for at least 18 weeks. it's exactly what we deserve as a country atm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unZpEayPXio

she's the 9th most followed person on TikTok and the daughter of

https://i.imgur.com/NGPJcH7.jpg

Marc D'Amelio (Republican Party) ran for election to the Connecticut State Senate to represent District 25. D'Amelio lost in the general election on November 6, 2018.
In addition to running as a Republican Party candidate, D'Amelio cross-filed to also run with the Independent Party in 2018.[1]

D'Amelio was previously a Republican candidate for at-large representative on the Norwalk Public Schools Board of Education in Connecticut. D'Amelio was defeated in the at-large general election on November 7, 2017.

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Monday, 21 September 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

lol what a song. i would welcome its success over, like, "f2020," which one of the stations here is still trying to make a thing

(blackbear exuding STRONG 'how do you do fellow kids' energy in that video)

i remember back in 2015 initially thinking one of the tori kelly songs that was getting pushed to radio at the time ("should've been us" specifically) was ariana. even tho i didn't like any of the songs i heard from her it's too bad she never really found her niche in mainstream pop given her strength as a singer + performer

dyl, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link


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