specific user such as imago
― silby, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
is ~40mpg considered.....good.... in the states
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link
Miles are like twice as long as kilometers. Think of it that way.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
here is a picture of the most popular car in america
https://i.imgur.com/vlOVuV7.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
^^ also twice as long as a kilometer.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
Coming down a two-lane one-way the other day, one of those trucks tried to get past me, but had to slow down because a Hummer was parked in a space next to his lane. Good times.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link
da big boys
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
Gas drops below $1.50 and everyone gets frisky.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link
lotta litres in a gallon
― maffew12, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
ballpark 100 liters per
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link
I’m still impressed that they doubled the number of doors on pickup trucks at some point and I barely noticed.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link
We got a Nissan Leaf last January and we’re very pleased with it. It was a scary step but there has been no downside so far. We still have a minivan for longer trips or hauling stuff.
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
You know who drives the Tesla on our block? The Pentecostals.
I know, right? Like you didn't think they could be even bigger assholes, but there you go.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
our regular car lease is up in 2021 so starting to look around now
got my eye on this https://www.caranddriver.com/kia/soul-ev, successor to https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26144426/2019-kia-niro-ev-driven/ from which i steal this:
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/niroev-sidebar-edit-1556807455.png?crop=0.757xw:0.714xh;0.136xw,0.133xh&resize=768:*
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 May 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link
also this one i guess but i think we want to the cargo https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/05/another-competent-korean-car-the-kia-niro-ev-reviewed/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 May 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link
If the Kia EVs were available in the dc area we probably would’ve gotten one of those instead.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 May 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link
Meanwhile Ford has apparently been hard at work building an unlistenable banshee that only runs for 45 minutes on a single charge https://jalopnik.com/my-brain-cant-process-the-noise-the-seven-motor-ford-mu-1844483324Yay for crazy R&D though
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/07/kia-denies-report-that-the-soul-ev-is-cancelled-for-america/
we have to change cars next november (lease runs out). this was top of my list. looks like it's not going to be an option :(
was really hoping a 3 year lease was going to get us to a world where there were more options for family sized evs.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:08 (three years ago) link
The good news is it’s not like you can go anywhere
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:22 (three years ago) link
I’ve been driving Hyundai ioniqs around recently. That’s a nice mid-size family car. Enough room in the rear seats and a good sized hatchback boot. Slightly lacklustre DC Fast charging performance is compensated for being a really efficient car. (More km/kWh)
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 31 July 2020 07:42 (three years ago) link
Supposedly the best thing for EVs in really cold weather is to have them plugged in all the time.
(Roy Scheider voice) you're gonna need a longer extension cord
― fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
why don’t you drive an EV?
Because we have a rock-solid old Subaru that seems destined to make it to the age of 30, but if it dies eventually, I'm thinking we'll go EV.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
BTW we recently learned that the Chevy Bolt is apparently designed such that the box for a 55” flatscreen TV fits PERFECTLY in the back with the seats folded down. Like somebody had to have made a CAD volume with just those measurements and made sure it would fit.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 October 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link
https://www.carboncounter.com/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link
i'm actually considering getting rid of my car, as i am fully remote now
at least the pandemic has brought on a few good things
― Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:45 (three years ago) link
loooool https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2021/03/29/vw-volkswagen-name-change-voltswagen-electric-cars-tesla-competiton/7048576002/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 29 March 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
*looks at calendar* uh premature 4/1 still seems more likely.
― Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 29 March 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
haha apparenty nope
We know, 66 is an unusual age to change your name, but we’ve always been young at heart. Introducing Voltswagen. Similar to Volkswagen, but with a renewed focus on electric driving. Starting with our all-new, all-electric SUV the ID.4 - available today. #Voltswagen #ID4 pic.twitter.com/pKQKlZDCQ7— Voltswagen (@VW) March 30, 2021
lot of americans taking the opportunity to get priggish about VW's history while the most prominent car company in the US *right now* is run by a space fascist eugenicist.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link
would definitely drive an EV voltswagen microbus while wearing my patagonia baggies, grateful dead shirt, and merrell hydro mocs, for peak west coast awfulness, but it will cost around my annual salary so unfortunately it will only be a terrible dream
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link
well apparently it *was* an april fools joke but now everyone is talking about their involvement with the National Socialist German Workers' Party so good job i guess?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link
Is buying a new electric car every few years better for the environment than maintaining an old car? I may have a bias as my car was built in 1973.
― Peter Greenaway's Fleetwood Mac (S-), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link
making an EV is marginally worse for the environment than making a regular car and much worse than making no car.
https://tnmt.com/infographics/carbon-emissions-by-transport-type/
making and then driving an EV is probably better than a clunker after a few years, but it's going to depend on how much you drive, etc.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 04:49 (two years ago) link
I’m not buying a non peer reviewed study with that disclaimer attached.
Try this one that uses the Argonne GREET lifecycle emissions model.
https://cgscholar.com/bookstore/works/the-climate-change-mitigation-potential-of-electric-vehicles-as-a-function-of-renewable-energy
No car is definitely better but if you have to use a car it’s considerable better to use an EV
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link
the disclaimer is pretty clear that it's back of the envelope, and nothing more than back of the envelope can be said in response to a vague question about whether to replace an existing ICE car.
but fwiw the abstract of that paper says:
"The lifecycle EV carbon emissions for a vehicle powered by the 2016 US grid is 30.82 metric tons... An average internal combustion engine vehicle (25.4 miles per gallon) is responsible for 68.38 metric tons of carbon dioxide over its lifetime"
which is almost exactly consistent with the back of the envelope calculation which says an ICE car produces about twice as much CO2 as an EV if you amortize manufacturing costs. and it's a whizzy infographic that doesn't cost $5 too.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
― Peter Greenaway's Fleetwood Mac (S-), Tuesday, March 30, 2021 8:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
old cars - basically anything pre-90s iirc - are significantly worse for the environment in terms of emissions than regular ICE cars
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
No doubt. I barely ever drive anyway so I guess it's a moot point.
Actually I'm not even sure why I felt the need to reply to this thread, but hey, ILX right?
― Peter Greenaway's Fleetwood Mac (S-), Sunday, 4 April 2021 05:52 (two years ago) link
otm
― Canon in Deez (silby), Sunday, 4 April 2021 05:53 (two years ago) link
This is a statistic I’ve not seen before and I would guess most others have not either. https://t.co/pMwC01eQEl— Norman Levine (@levinepmc) May 1, 2021
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 May 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
If the U.S. commercial aviation became completely carbon-free it would be equivalent, in terms of CO2 reduction, to reducing passenger vehicle emissions by about 11 percent. (Source: https://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPDF.cgi?Dockey=P100ZK4P.pdf via Aaron Gordon’s newsletter)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 May 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
Price point on the electric F-150 is damn impressive. If I was still commuting around LA, hauling computer/server gear, all that - I'd be on the preorder right now.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 May 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link
I want this minivanhttps://www.greencarreports.com/news/1132297_canoo-prices-its-evs-starting-at-34-750-for-lifestyle-vehicle-due-in-2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 21 May 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link
Well, Electro Voice is a good mid-budget option for casual live venues. Perhaps for wedge monitors in a rehearsal space.
https://c1.zzounds.com/media/productmedia/fit,2018by3200/quality,85/sx100_1-dff3a90196b807449d3436d46c45d47e.jpg
But if I were looking for reference speakers in a professional studio, I might look more toward Genelec, or the new Neumanns.
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 May 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link
no wheels on those speakers.
one of the appealing things about the F-150 (which I will not be getting, but i hope this shows up on other vehicles) is AC outlets. if every other car can charge a phone (or a fridge or an oxygen concentrator) then that's a big deal in a natural disaster.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 24 May 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
real giggers put everything on a wagon afaict
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 24 May 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
Canoo's first model—a minivan now dubbed the "Lifestyle Vehicle"
this is deviant shit i can tell
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
they all look so much like "The Howard"
― bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
Already was a big deal in Texas back in February:https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/18/some-texans-use-2021-ford-f-150-hybrids-to-power-homes-amid-winter-storm.html
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link
Electro Voice a proud Minnesota company
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link
xp oh nice. the new hyundai has ac outlets too https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/05/hyundai-reveals-us-specs-for-ioniq-5-electric-crossover/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link
xp i still have some old EV sentry monitors in storage. pretty good and cheap first set.
― bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link
wrong thread
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 March 2024 02:35 (three weeks ago) link
ant edwards is an ev, its ok
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 8 March 2024 02:37 (three weeks ago) link
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fiat_panda_policia_olbia.jpg
R3 is giving this
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 March 2024 15:04 (three weeks ago) link
The major reason why I want one is because I'm sick and tired of dealing with oil and spark plugs and thermostats and all of the other things that gas engines have. I don't know where I'd plug it in, though--I don't think the overloaded park grid my RV is in can handle the electrical requirements (it can barely handle a microwave), and the closest commerical charger I know of (other than the five or so that are hidden behind the Outback in Crystal River) are 40 miles away.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 9 March 2024 01:07 (two weeks ago) link
yep that's the issue. here's a really good link that I just realized could add to the general conversation here:
(oh wait it's a post on linkedin, let me C&P)
I see major changes coming in the mobile off-grid power market. Traditional RV hook-ups with good power will be harder to find. -Land use trends and regulations are changing, making RV park development less popular.-Aging electrical infrastructure coupled with higher demand is making the power supply in many parks unreliable.-More RVers means more competition for hook-up spots.-Increased demand for limited spots will result in increased prices. There will be more restrictions on running gas generators. -Look at California’s laws on generator usage. Mobile off-grid power systems will have to work with or be designed around electric vehicles. -If someone’s tow vehicle has hundreds of kWh stored, they are going to want to share it with their trailer.-Topping off your RV at a supercharger might be as common as emptying your black tank. RVers are going to demand more robust power system capabilities.
long story short, investing in some sort of expandable lithium-based off-grid solar system (no matter how small you start) is looking like a good idea. that's the key thing about lithium vs lead-acid, with lithium you can add new ones to old ones as long as they are the same brand and (mostly) model/size (there are some where you can mix sizes). you can't do that with traditional lead-acid batteries b/c of a chemistry thing called the Peukert Effect.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:13 (two weeks ago) link
― Jeff, Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:26 (two weeks ago) link
One thing I do need to mention is that this is a full-time residential park--I've lived here for nine years, some people have been here for 20.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 9 March 2024 04:52 (two weeks ago) link
wonder how EVs would shake out if we were to be hit by The Big One solar flare coronal mass ejaculation whatever from the nyer article
― 龜, Saturday, 9 March 2024 13:30 (two weeks ago) link
a lot of ppl would go nyer nyer nyer
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 March 2024 13:39 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/325193/volvo-cars-partners-with-and-invests-in-breathe-for-next-generation-fast-charginga rare vote of confidence in the UK tech sector
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2024 09:33 (one week ago) link
There's a youtube guy I sometimes check in on who focuses entirely on the Hyundai Ioniq. I caught up with one of his most recent videos, and while he still likes his car after 2 years his videos really emphasize all sorts of bullshit big and small that I can't believe remain issues. For example, lack of a rear wiper (which is finally being remedied, but still, wtf?) or the fact that the car's map to charging stations is only updated every six months or so (by his estimate missing the addition of 22k+ new charger locations over those same six months), or the fact that the brake light goes on whenever you take your foot off the accelerator, which is by design, but which must be maddening to those around you. This stuff might be unique to this car, but, like, why are any of these seemingly easy to fix issues still even, well, issues? The downside of making cars but particularly EVs more like driving computers is that features seems to be pushed out before it's ready for prime time, with constantly promised fixes and patches always on the way, just like computers. But my computer doesn't cost $30k+.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 14:59 (one week ago) link
the brake light going on sounds like that's by design - i assume he has regen braking turned on?
― 龜, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:41 (one week ago) link
I think so, but I think it's related to an overcorrection to the old software, where people were basically able to coast to a complete stop without the brake lights ever coming on. The youtube guy thinks the light should be related to actual deceleration rather than the regen amount, but he understands why it is the way it is. Does regen foot-off-the-pedal braking light up the brake lights in all cars that use it?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 18:32 (one week ago) link
US flailing around:
China's EV industry is causing US automakers to sweat. Why? Because it is cranking out high-quality, reasonably sized, affordable EVs. US automakers' bad decisions *once again* require the US gov't to shelter them from competition.https://t.co/vLdbj5YL7g— David Roberts (@drvolts) March 18, 2024
Vs Australia thinking outside the box:
The Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) says that EV drivers in Australia could earn $12,000 a year by allowing the grid to draw from their batteries. Five years of that & you've basically paid off the car! https://t.co/2m08Wfac3r— David Roberts (@drvolts) March 17, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 19:02 (one week ago) link
the fact that the brake light goes on whenever you take your foot off the accelerator, which is by design, but which must be maddening to those around you.
This is absolutely related to the regen. First off in a petrol car you can absolutely have brake lights go on without the brakes enshrining because there’s always a bit of free play in the brake pedal before the pads hit the rotors. Similarly you want the lights to go on before the regen brakes engage because it’s the safest way - much better than the lights going on after you start braking, you always want to do right side fail in cars.
Much more maddening in the Ioniq is that they clearly have to run out a big supply of flappy paddle steering wheels (for racing style manual gear changes - another stupid feature no drivers actually use). The flappy paddles are used to set the regen, and the regen needs to be reset every time you get in the car; there’s no memory of the last setting. I can’t think of a circumstance in an EV where you wouldn’t want maximum regen, because that’s energy going back into the battery extending your range.
I realize 1 pedal driving in an EV drive is not what most people are used to, but it takes about 5 minutes to get used to it (OK, maybe not the BMW i3 which drove like a dogem and took a lot of getting used to).
Now to the ARENA thing. Anyway that tweet is a bad reading on an even worse press release.
ARENA - Australian renewables energy agency - was founded to fund research into renewables and grid integration of renewables. It used to be staffed by some really knowledgeable and competent people but the last two liberal prime ministers eviscerated it by suggesting it should start funding gas exploration and other nonsense. It’s now staffed by children who are not ‘there for a long time, only for a good time’ basically just for the CV points on whatever political greasy pole they are climbing (there’s a very funny episode of utopia on this). There’s no institutional memory there - to the extent that I’ve been in meetings where they’ve prosposed ideas to fund and I’ve had to ask ‘how is this different from the thing you funded three years ago? Let me show you the report on your website’.
Anyway this person who made or could make $12k from V2G - I believe they were part of a trial funded by ARENA whose knowledge sharing wrapped up a few months ago. The press office is ignoring the conclusions of the report - which certainly don’t say that every driver can make 12k a year. The authors (I know one of them, Laura Jones at ANU) have all sat through at least the first half hour of Econ 101 and learnt about supply and demand.
Yes one person has extrapolated a few good wins putting their car on Amber (the infuriating Australian Griddy, remember them) and having the car play in the wholesale electricity market.
The problem here is that the commodity being traded is flexibility and lots of people are pulling supply into the market, GWh of new batteries going in all providing the same thing that car is - so maybe a few people get 2 or 3 years of good earning from v2g but then the market gets stabilized by the big batteries and the supernormal returns evaporate.
But to get that return you need to buy $5k worth of V2G charger in the garage for maybe another $3k in install costs. (The chargers in the trial were more like 10k but prices are coming down and should probably normalize around the 3k or so battery inverters cost). But remember also that V2G tech in the car adds cost there as well.
Then of course is the main problem with this. If you want to Hoover up all these money making opportunities your car has to be plugged in, at home.
Having run some of this style of ARENA pilot with home batteries; I can say that the median participant is a cashed-up retired engineer who probably makes it to the hardware store or the golf club a couple of times a week. Basically someone who has an expensive car but doesn’t drive a lot.
For most people, even though their car sits idle 97% of the time, it is not always at home - it’s a work or the shops or wherever. So you are likely to miss a substantial number of these money making opportunities by just getting on with your life.
Tesla are actually vehermently anti v2g - it adds costs as above and they think cars should be utilized more and I agree on that point. Now where we disagree is what they ought to be doing, Tesla say mowing down pedestrians being robot taxis, but let’s get real, put your car or Turo or similar and let someone else use it.
― Ed, Monday, 18 March 2024 20:58 (one week ago) link
the brake light goes on whenever you take your foot off the accelerator
^^ preferable to a few models that screwed this up in the other direction, so that depending on how you've set the regenerative braking you might decelerate very rapidly without any brake light going on at all
― ን (nabisco), Monday, 18 March 2024 21:41 (one week ago) link
xp is it also a concern that doing this constantly is going to affect the life of a battery ed?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 18 March 2024 21:50 (one week ago) link
OTM. That BMW i3 I mentioned had super aggressive regen and I always worried about someone running into the back of me.
Actually BMW just announced a new (I think axial flux) EV motor. The cool thing about it is how efficient it is but of course BMW are marketing it on it ability o coast. Yet another example of focussing on something they think people want but have no idea about and actually is less good for customers in the long run. Costing actually implies engine braking, you don’t generally wack the car in neutral and let the car roll down the highway.
I had a Mercedes plug in hybrid tester for a couple of days that coasted like this - basically no friction other than air resistance and bearings. It was super weird and felt ludicrously dangerous. An engine or motor would bring a car to a stop if you take your foot off by this felt like it would just roll till it hit something.
There’s a dead person switch angle in this as well.
― Ed, Monday, 18 March 2024 21:56 (one week ago) link
it is an interesting problem that one pedal driving is breaking when off the accelerator but its breaking slower than people usually do when using the break pedal, its signaling something slightly different, guess people will just have to get used to it, or maybe they should make another light
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2024 21:59 (one week ago) link
i've long been of the opinion that cars need more lights. at the very least hazards need their own color - in many situations it takes too long to figure out if somebody's got their hazards on or just left their turn signal on
― 龜, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:29 (one week ago) link
reasonable
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:34 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1lZ9n2bxWA
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 02:00 (one week ago) link
^^ That dude -- IMO one of the most weirdly, ludicrously charming and informative people on YouTube -- has a whole video about the regen / brake light issue on his car! Love that dude. He has genuinely transformed the way I use my microwave and dishwasher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YW7x9U5TQ
― ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:13 (one week ago) link
yeah hes one of the absolute best youtubers
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:15 (one week ago) link
did not realize he had weighed in on break light discourse, will review and report back
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:16 (one week ago) link
i like him on bsky. he is angry in the most charming way.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:16 (one week ago) link
i bought my fancy xmas lights based on a tip from him and they are delightful.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:17 (one week ago) link
It's kind of weird to dunk on the US for govt support of industry in the face of competition from a country that has significantly greater government support of industry xp
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:06 (one week ago) link
wow i am obsessed with this channel. checking all my smoke detectors now to make sure they’re photoelectrix
― 龜, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:40 (one week ago) link
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ev-maker-lucid-group-rallies-on-heavy-volume-after-1b-private-placement-22de7d44
would be funny if lucid ends up being successful as they are >60% owned by the saudis. i hate it when the saudis bonesaw a dissident journalist but i love it when they provide me with a luxury EV
― 龜, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:28 (three days ago) link
life is full of beautiful contradictions
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:22 (three days ago) link
I saw a used 2013 VW E-Golf that could be $1000 after used EV rebate/incentives. I wonder if the longevity of EVs and oversupply might eventually lead to people getting paid to own one.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:23 (three days ago) link
in soviet america, car pays you
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:55 (three days ago) link
Not sure I'd trust the battery in that thing....
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:08 (three days ago) link
If you don’t need to go far every day and can charge at home an e-golf for 1000 bucks will be fine. Test it and if it’s got more than enough range for an average day. They weren’t great just a compliance car, but it’s also unlikely to have done big miles or have been flogged so the normal car stuff won’t have a lot of wear on it.
For 1000 bucks if you get a year out of it great, you’d loose way more in depreciation on anything more expensive. Think of it as a rental of indeterminate length. When it craps out, costs too much to fix, or won’t pass the roadworthy, flog it to someone for 500 or scrap it. This is the way of $1000 cars, ICE or EV.
― Ed, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:18 (three days ago) link
The bonus with this is it isn’t actually a 1000 dollar car, it’s a more expensive car you’re getting an incentive on.
― Ed, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:20 (three days ago) link
If you get an e-Golf, try to buy one of the later ones which had enhanced battery packs with longer range, I recall 2017 was the first year for these. Average range went from about 85 miles to 125 miles per recharge (based on US EPA test methods). I drive the gasoline/petrol version of this car, and other than long range the e-Golf has all the goodness found in other Golfs, like loads of room for people and stuff despite the small outside dimensions; quiet, and comfortable to drive. I like how "normal" it is compared to some EVs.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 16:37 (two days ago) link