love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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711 more deaths in england alone today

time to open this baby up and see if we can make it to 2,000 a day

Where's that from? I'm seeing 205 deaths in the UK total.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 10 May 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

🥳🎆🇬🇧STREET PARTY🇬🇧🎆🥳
🤪🍾🇬🇧TO HONOUR🇬🇧🍾🤪
🥰🎉🇬🇧THOSE WHO DIED🇬🇧🎉🥰
🤡🎂🇬🇧OF PREVIOUS🇬🇧🎂🤡
😂🥂🇬🇧STREET PARTY🇬🇧🥂😂

— Tom Little of "Grandstand Theme Tune" Fame (@ThisIsTomLittle) May 9, 2020

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 May 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

oh wait, was looking at an old email sorry

200 for the day, but that's just hospitals.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 May 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

And it's a Sunday.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

and a bank holiday weekend

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Sunday, 10 May 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

and The Italian Job is on the telly

anvil, Sunday, 10 May 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

“It’s the self deterioration society”.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 10 May 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

🎙️ Historian @Rog_Anderson and I deconstruct VE Day and other British wartime myths on the #JeggitPodcast. This is a really eye-opening discussion - not to be missed. https://t.co/Zr6r1ZwIVM

— Jason Michael (@Jeggit) May 10, 2020

good little discussion here about the addled exceptionalism of brit nationalists and their crazed delusional ww2 mythology. not like I learned anything new, but just nodded in agreement.

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

There should be no return to work until it is safe to do so.

If work cannot be done safely, it should not proceed.

People must come before private profit.

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) May 10, 2020

gyac, Sunday, 10 May 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

miss u king

this rent biz is the most perfect faultline exposing issue

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

It has also exposed how there now could be 20million+ people who could make the most credible claim of "political homelessness" yet

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

Boris trying his best to be serious with this completely confused and befuddling prime ministerial broadcast.

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

He wants me to go to work tomorrow, get tae France, ya wanker.

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

this rent biz is the most perfect faultline exposing issue

The weird thing is that it kind of is and kind of isn’t. I’m struggling to imagine how substantial the difference in policy would have been if RLB had won or Corbyn had stayed. It’s also not unthinkable that the bulk of the Labour policy will also end up being implemented by a government with no better ideas for averting a major housing / economic crisis.

ShariVari, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

we’re gonna end up with a six-figure death toll, easily

I'm not watching but by all accounts this is a vague incomprehensible mess.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

the two years thing is, as stephen bush says, not even coherent. spain are doing a similar thing with six years which softens it but idk how you'll administer that. sorting out housing benefit seems the more obvious route. as it stands this won't even help landlords as many will be unable to pay, and we may see a lot of these small time 'good landlords' trying to sell and making house prices crash, and ofc even if it doesn't it will make the economy tank further

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

House prices are going to crash whatever happens.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

open labour are backing rent cancellation

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

a q of degree

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

The government is going to absolutely desperate to get people out spending disposable income before too long and I don't know how that would square with having hundreds of thousands of people whose disposable income is completely swallowed up with rent arrears.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

reforming housing benefit is extremely overdue and the easiest lever to pull in a crisis

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

there'll just be widespread bankruptcy if there's no rent cancellation, plus ppl disappearing

The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

Yep, though one of Bush’s objections to the two year thing is that the Labour policy of expanding housing benefit means there shouldn’t really be any arrears to pay back (which idk).

ShariVari, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

Economically I guess the route out of this for the govt will involve gigantic rounds of QE which has the knock-on effect of feeding asset bubbles, including in housing.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

"ppl just disappearing"

Lol once got caught doing a flit by a fairly dangerous landlord. I laugh about it now but it was a very dodgy situation to get through unharmed!

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

This "I'll be the PM of the whole nation" is going to play v. well for Scot Nats. Especially now England is the last country in Europe with "extremely high" excess deaths.

stet, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

It seems his announcements only really apply to England so he is the Prime Minister of the whole nation of England.

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

I think that's a ref to Sturgeon's public dissing of "Stay Awake" or whatever it is, and her demand it not be used in Scotland.

stet, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

My interpretation of Boris Johnson this evening: the pandemic of COVID-19 in the UK is much more serious than we have been led to believe. Johnson was unusually serious, fists clenched, no jokes about squashing sombreros.

— richard horton (@richardhorton1) May 10, 2020

stet, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

He recorded the message before Sturgeon's "diss"

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Just watched boris hands for 15 mins pic.twitter.com/BZpUiKMyK0

— John McGinn (@jmcginn7) May 10, 2020

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

I felt like I was in the room and he was talking to me...what a brilliant speech @BorisJohnson well done 👏

— Ben Stokes (@benstokes38) May 10, 2020

gyac, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

That corkie must have hit his head hard

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

Horton is right, I think. In practice all secondary school and most primary school has been cancelled for the academic year. Restaurants aren’t going to reopen for two months. It’s an admission that the U.K. is absolutely nowhere near being ready for the end of lockdown and wouldn’t be out of step with the suggestion in the ST this morning that the real rate of new infections is 18k per day. That’s the context Johnson’s telling people to go back to work in.

ShariVari, Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

Poor people, mostly

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

Working class people in the likes of construction are going to risk getting this disease and die, whereas people who can work from home can jog more than once a day. Seems fair.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

from the comments to horton’s tweet thread

Rightful #VEDay75 focus on #WW2 sacrifices puts #covid_19 UK tragedy in chilling perspective: civilian deaths in 6 years - 60,595; excess deaths in 7 weeks - 55,000 @ChrisGiles_
Photo: Jonathan David Shepherd pic.twitter.com/0kNvBx9QEA

— Nigel Taylor (@SilverLotheni) May 8, 2020

Did anyone here seriously believe that bars and restaurants would be open in July? Does anyone believe it now?

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

people in England will be allowed to sit in parks within their household groups, to drive to beauty spots for walks, and to take unlimited amounts of outdoor exercise. People will be able to meet and sit down with a single other person from another household outdoors as long as they stay two metres apart.

this is all already happening

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

people who cannot work at home will now be “actively encouraged” to get back to work with social distancing where possible, an announcement that prompted trade unions to raise concerns about employee safety.

this is beyond fucked up. where’s the enforcement mechanism? let’s just trust the boss to sort it out????

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

^also already happening tbf

Microbes oft teem (wins), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

shithole country

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

Law prof says this is a tightening not a relaxation. Wonder if they know that, or are just incompetent beyond all measure.

I’m also confused after Boris’ speech: (1) going to work when you can’t work from home was already the position but now you should avoid public transport: that’s an additional rule not a relaxation; and [Thread] https://t.co/1tFaGOXqwU

— Tom Hickman (@TomRHickman) May 10, 2020

stet, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

Gone unlocked to state the following:

* Familiaraise yourself with s44 of the Employment Rights Act 1996.
* If you do not feel safe to go to work and you are an employee - then do not go. State your reasons in writing and send an email to your manager, cc-ing HR (1/?)

— Magic Money Tree 🌳 (@charlottor) May 10, 2020

gyac, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

This is what happened!!!! pic.twitter.com/YcNAZE1TP4

— lovelife (@Rashidhussain69) May 10, 2020

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

That lawyer thread - isn't this a relaxation of rules for outdoor activity and a slight tightening for enclosed spaces? The risk involved in sitting in the park at a safe distance for everyone else feels pretty low.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link


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