einstuerzende neubauten: classic or dud?

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"Ten Grand Goldie," the other new song released so far, is much closer to what I was hoping for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjTHkN21Zo

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 May 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

I quite like 10 Grand Goldie, more than most of what I've heard from them over the last 20 years, but nothing really new to be honest.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

So this has leaked and is sounding pretty great so far. "Zivilisatorisches Missgeschick" is amazing.

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I've heard the whole thing now and it's really good. Probably gonna review it somewhere.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Re-homing this, from an inappropriate thread on ILE:

Neubauten just released a newer live version of Sehnsucht where Blixa (still currently at 'punch myself in the face' levels of crush) very deliberately sings the untranslateable punning German part of the lyrics in English, going into a chant of "addicted to desire, addicted to desire" which is very much where I'm at regarding crushes. Crushes are a huge source of energy - (I no longer believe they are the only source of energy, but I don't think B does, either any more) - but they are also an addiction. Addictions can both sap and feed one's energy.

Also, Neubauten are in the process of setting up a Bandcamp. They're undecided if they're going to concentrate on older stuff, newer stuff, weirder unavailable stuff (e.g. the Musterhaus era experiments), live stuff (they are sitting on a powderkeg of amazing, well-recorded live material that blows some of the 'official' versions out of the water) or what they're going to do with it.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 07:49 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8OSBMy-940

brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

Or lord, a baby Prussian, hasn't changed at all in some ways. Still just a big overenthusiastic puppy! Blixa and their ~album of love songs~ bless your little rubber wellies.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

I was hoping to see some more reactions to Alles In Allem. Like, I feel like I almost know *too much* about this album, at this point, and I was really hoping to read some more reactions of people coming to it with fresher ears?

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:40 (three years ago) link

It's a funny thing but I feel a time-lag of appreciation with Neubauten's music, some of their records have taken years to sink in, those ones often tend to end up as my favourites.

Lament, for instance, still feels really fresh and detailed and in need of more listening time, which is a bit ridiculous as it's like, 6 years old?

I know it's silly as the music isn't as complex and demanding, especially these days, I think it might just be that they're so significant, culturally speaking, that the longer they roll the more my brain tells me that they need proper attention and not just cursory listening in the car or while reading.

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 August 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

Lament didn't really fully click for me, until I saw it live and understood it as ~the soundtrack to a theatre piece~ as much as a complete album. I was listening to it as a complete album around the time of all the 1914-1918 WWI centenery stuff, as a very necessary corrective to all the jingoism in my own country, and it worked for that perfectly.

There's a thing with Neubauten albums, where they are often working on multiple levels at once. There's an immediate hit of how the music and mood hits you because they are super talented musicians who communicate emotion through noise really effectively. There's a deeper level as you spend more time with the lyrics (often there's translation involved, and not just translation from German, but understanding Blixa's complex allusions and symbolism). Then there's a whole nother level that takes place on a cultural context level. Levels 2 and 3 can take years!

But that doesn't mean that the enjoyment of listening on level 1 is cursory or invalid or ~bad fandom~. They are still amazing on an "I listened to this and it hit me in my hips and my heart" level. If they *weren't* amazing on that level, no one would ever bother pushing through to the deeper levels.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 09:09 (three years ago) link

I like that they're just a little less graceful and more turbulent these days, around the time of 'Silence is Sexy' and 'Perpetuum Mobile' it came across quite poised and low-key. Although I do really enjoy those records nowadays

It felt like at the gigs I saw around 'Alles Wieder Offen' they came back to life a bit more.

Did you go to the weekend thing they did in 2010-ish? Oh my lord, that Garage gig was so amazing.

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 August 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

It is to my great regret that I never got to see them before the Lament shows! I know so many people who have had such great experiences at their ~event weekends~ and the like. I wish I had gone to the Garage thing.

The thing is, I actually like Perpetuum Mobile as an album, more than Alles Wieder Offen. It has more of what I like in music - that Perpetuum was really their 'let's do Krautrock' album, musically. But the clue to their attitude was really in the name - Alles Wieder Offen was where they *felt* more open as a band again, where they felt more connected, more engaged, more happy to be ~doing Neubauten~ again? (And The Jewels, the supporters-only album that was the weirder, even more freeform and 'experimental' companion to AWO, is one of my favourite things they have ever done.) They sounded like they were more "back to life" because they were feeling more back to life.

And I know the parallel in the album names is not deliberate (they actually wanted to avoid it) but Alles in Allem is also very much a "back to life" and an opening-up record. I cannot believe how open and how personal Blixa was willing to get on the record. (And Blixa being Blixa, of course people, including myself, were looking for 8 layers of meaning, when on some songs - no, really, it was exactly what they were saying it was.)

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

Anyway, boom tish, it's just gone live:

https://neubauten.bandcamp.com/releases

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:47 (three years ago) link

I must get Alles in Allem. I haven't been very good at following Neubauten more recently; it's time to jump in again.

Duke, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:48 (three years ago) link

I mentioned upthread that I was going to review Alles In Allem, but I never posted the link. Here it is. Now off to Bandcamp I go...

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 7 August 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

25th anniversary concert in Gijon, Spain on April 13, 2005.
credits
released April 13, 2005

bless them for doing this, seriously, but lol this is not how it works

(I'm biased cuz I need release dates to log radio play)

sleeve, Friday, 7 August 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

How should they be doing it, then?

(This is a serious question, please be gentle with them - they are a bunch of middle-aged Germans who are a bit perplexed by Bandcamp.)

All of their shows got released as CDRs, memory sticks, etc. about 10 minutes after the end of the set, so that they could be sold at the merch table. So that's what they mean by "released" - it was literally available for commercial sale at the merch stand, and on their web store as soon as the show was over.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

haha I just mean the "release date" should be the day it was uploaded/"released"

if you could actually let someone know, that would be awesome. totally not a big deal, I was just amused, but I really do use the release dates to log "new" plays for licensing $. I want them to get their fractions of pennies!

and again, it's really cool that they are doing this, I will keep my eye on it. would love a lossless copy of The Jewels, for example.

sleeve, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

(uploaded to Bandcamp, I mean, although yeah if they were available aftershow then it does muddy those waters a bit but afaict Bandcamp treats reissues as having the release date of the reissue not the original)

sleeve, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the clarification! It's useful information, and I'll pass it on.

Branwell with an N, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

Gonna give the new one a proper listen over the weekend, might dig out The Jewels too.

Maresn3st, Friday, 7 August 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQoBph_FTFI

Maresn3st, Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNR1nGolZVA

Maresn3st, Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEyaGBSDpiA

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Halber Mensch time. yes this is my industrial week because there are limits to how much metal I can consume a year even for me.

this is my very first listen.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

Ohhhh nice, that's a great record.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

the intro track I coulda listened to for a half hour, if my mother wouldn't have run in screaming

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

my EN favourite.

so many greats; the title track, der tod ist ein dandy, seele brennt, yu gung, sehnsucht....

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

the intro track I coulda listened to for a half hour, if my mother wouldn't have run in screaming

amazing!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

yeah this fucking ruuules. anything percussive and mechanical works for me and this has that in droves.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

How much of their other music have you heard N?

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

somewhere between 0 and none

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

Oh nice, what a journey!

This may be worth your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=posxMfqdgIM

And if you can track down the Liebeslieder documentary also, it's some story.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VsIW3M5p1o

MaresNest, Sunday, 19 February 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

hell fucking ya

sarahell, Sunday, 19 February 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

please sir, can we have some more...

stirmonster, Sunday, 19 February 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link

<3 N.U. Unruh

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Sunday, 19 February 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxDriPLyBqo

New single!

Maresn3st, Saturday, 23 March 2024 09:20 (three weeks ago) link


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