The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

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i am okay with anybody in the entire world not being friends with charles barkley; he seems like he would get infuriating quickly

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 May 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

Barkley's words are more hurtful than he seems to realize. He focuses on how he said the people around Jordan are bad and not Jordan specifically. But in doing that, he's painting a picture of MJ as a clueless dupe. It's the sort of criticism that probably causes more turmoil and second-guessing within the org than just saying "Jordan made this or that terrible pick/decision, and they need to recover from that."

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 May 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

ultimately, Barkley is either right or wrong about it. if he's right, i'm probably on his side. but if he was trying to craft a middle ground soundbyte that allowed him to do his job and not hurt his friend, I think he failed.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

where is the info re barkley feud

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

I read Chuck's autobio 10 yrs or so ago and he came off WAY differently than he does on TV. I'm guessing he's much different person than most ppl judge him to be.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

the golf swing hitch is an affectation

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

guys don’t make me tell my Charles Barkley was a dick to me where I was a teenager story on here for like the fifth time, but yeah in sum chuck is an actual insensitive dick

Clay, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/vGAY_pKRelQ

― Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, May 7, 2020 4:13 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol i actually love this

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

Was trying to let MJ off the hook for being a dick by thinking he just got worn down by the constant scrutiny and infamy, that he developed it as a defense mechanism. But then there's that story from that great long article several years back (I'm blanking on the author. I can picture him. Name starts with W?) about him on a commercial shoot early in his career where he put his finger into every donut in a box just so the crew wouldn't have any, because they didn't deserve HIS donuts.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

ok it's Wright Thompson and I mangled that anecdote:

"Back when they used to shoot a lot of commercials, Jordan's security team would wait for him in his trailer while he was on set. A woman named Linda cooked Michael's meals, and he loved cinnamon rolls. She'd bake a tray and bring it to him. When it came time to film, he'd see the guards eyeing the cinnamon rolls and he'd walk over and spit on each one, to make sure nobody took his food."

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

idk i wouldnt really want to eat food that i spit on

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

that's why you have no 'chips

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

damn was wondering why at least now i know

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

goon has got zero #MambaMentality

Spottie, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

fuck its true

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

i posted that wright thompson article a couple days back. was pretty eye opening for me when i read it as i never really followed MJ the person before.

Spottie, Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

he'd see the guards eyeing the cinnamon rolls and he'd walk over and spit on each one

just an alpha dog marking his territory

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

I think it was eye-opening for most ppl. He's so guarded, there wasn't that sort of behind-the-curtains look at him before afaik.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

cinnamon rolls are for NBA game CLOSERS

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 May 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

where is the info re barkley feud

This is the piece I came across:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29140010/charles-barkley-see-long-riff-michael-jordan-ending

Barkley's been one of my favourite interviews for years, even only as a casual basketball fan. I thought he was very eloquent in the documentary, saying that for the first time in that final series he had to accept that there was a player better than he was (after a game where he played great and it still wasn't enough).

clemenza, Friday, 8 May 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

I find his love for the humble homemade cinnamon roll a bit charming. Probably made Linda feel good anyway.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 May 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

cinnamon rolls are good

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

This article gave me a lot of goodwill towards Barkley, well worth a read

https://amp.wbur.org/onlyagame/2018/12/14/lin-wang-charles-barkley

Just realized why I misrembered that anecdote. My friend once brought me donuts at work and stuck her finger in one just as a gag lol.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 May 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link

Jordan in that Phoenix series might have been the peak Jordan.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 May 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

Has anyone watched the Rodman 30 for 30?
I started it but it seemed v corny so i bailed.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 May 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

it was okay! covers a lot of the same ground but is clearly filtered through Dennis' sensibilities and focuses more on the life after basketball than during.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 9 May 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

ok serioulsy what is going one with that security guy flipping coins w MJ?

is that a real person? He looks like a Safdie bros walk-on. Hoping he gets his own episode because...wow

― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), lundi 4 mai 2020 14:22 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Eheh, that was such a great moment.
I also like the idea of MJ listening to W. Houston's first album on repeat... so gangsta !

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 9 May 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/42OzpZB0bqA

5 hours of MJ highlights in sequential order

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

ah, that's fun!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

yeah I appreciate seeing all the white dudes with perms (80s Doug Collins, auerbach, security dude)

brimstead, Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

albeck

brimstead, Saturday, 9 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

Something I didn’t appreciate at the time was how much of Jordan’s greatness is ballhandling. None of the other guys in the greatest shooting guard discussion had handles like that. It was like trying to guard a 6’6” Iverson.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 10 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Isn't Steph in the greatest shooting guard discussion? Because his handles are as amazing as his shooting stats.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

he’s a point guard

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

yes, but in a league where distinctions like these are increasingly irrelevant

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

michael broke a few ankles

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

Two more eps tonight!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJOBlWvxVA

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

I was watching this highlight reel of Jordan's All-Star appearances yesterday. 1) It wasn't quite the hands-off shooting practice 20-25 years ago that it is today--the 2003 game-winner was very contested; 2) two or three of his most spectacular plays were feeds from Isiah Thomas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G89qHy8vcac

clemenza, Sunday, 10 May 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

yeah I caught a replay of the 98 all star game last week and those dudes were balling from the opening tip

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 May 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

Scouting report early on for MJ was he can't dribble with his left, so force him that way. But his 1st step was so insanely quick that it didn't matter, he'd still blow by elite defenders going right.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 10 May 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

The 2003 all star game feels like 7 years ago to me

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link

re: mike’s handles and that first step it’s really insane, there are so many highlights where he’s got his back to the basket and there’s like 3 or 4 guys on him and all the sudden he’s at the rim

k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2020 03:01 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/2C1QE5TJOR

— Htims R.J. (@mike_jonsey) May 11, 2020

k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

jordan saying he was planning on retiring before his dad died

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link

omg, the payton video is just so violent
did i see r kelly guarding dennis on the space jam pickup court?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 May 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link

mj cldnt hit the breaking ball had to go back to hoop very sad

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

the basketball rarely curves

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link


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